Instigator / Pro
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1309
rating
274
debates
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Topic
#4961

Abortion is the killing of an innocent fetus

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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After not so many votes...

It's a tie!
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
Two weeks
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
0
1500
rating
1
debates
50.0%
won
Description

Definitions:
Abortion is defined as killing of a fetus.

Innocent is defined as didnt commit any crime intentionally. Future crimes are excluded from this definition.

These definitions cannot be changed. Never never never.

Burden of proof is on Con to disprove the topic in every case of abortion. If he fails to prove that every abortion is not the killing of an innocent fetus in every single case of abortion, he loses.

How do you get qualifications to vote. Do I have to do a certain amount of debates?

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@emmilyramires

Perhaps go after the definition of "fetus", "innocence" and "intention"?

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@Barney

Thank you for pointing this out. I am not sure I know of a fun strategy to win though. It would likely be a boring win.

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@emmilyramires

FYI, you’ve accepted a trap debate. They can be navigated and won, but they will be frustrating.

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@Barney

"By the same standard, all tools used to perform a rare surgical abortion of innocent of that."

This debate has nothing to do with tools. Even if tools are innocent of committing abortion, it still stands that abortion happened and the innocent fetus was killed.

Of course, the burden of proof is on Con to prove that either abortions never happen either that in every case of abortion, fetus was guilty of intentionally committing a crime, excluding future crimes.

I guess Con can argue that fetus committed crimes in past life.

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@prefix

That's advice for the first round of the debate, not a site rule that overrides the description of the debate. Favorable definitions are allowed. That said, pretty much anything can be kritiked, but voters are likely to default to the rules and definitions set in the description.

See “absurd special rules”:
https://info.debateart.com/terms-of-service/voting-policy

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@Best.Korea

If something is incapable of intent, then innocence (per your definition) is moot.

By the same standard, all tools used to perform a rare surgical abortion of innocent of that.

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@ponikshiy

This debate may appeal to you.

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@prefix

You cannot debate definitions. The debating happens once you agree to given definitions.

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@Best.Korea

Yes!

According to DART rules ..."Ensure your definitions are outlined. If disagreeing with any established one(s), make a brief case for the superior authority of your alternative(s)."
from https://info.debateart.com/style-guide#first-round

Ergo the premise and the description are debatable.

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@prefix

no.

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@Best.Korea

Definitions must be validated by an authoritative source....always, always, always.

Kicking a pregnant woman is a crime.

Your definitions make this a truism.