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Topic
#5042

A parent has every right or right to dictate the type of relationships their children have or will have.

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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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After 1 vote and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...

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Disclaimer : Regardless of the setup for voting win or lose, The aim of this interaction, Is for those that view it, Learn and or take away anything that will amount to any constructive value ultimately. So that counts as anything that'll cause one to reconsider an idea, Understand a subject better, Help build a greater wealth of knowledge getting closer to truth. When either of us has accomplished that with any individual here, That's who the victor of the debate becomes.

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Round 1
Pro
#1
Just to questions 


Is it true that the law gives the right to the parent of a child to dictate in the best welfare of a child?

Would this include whom the children are involved with that can affect their well being and welfare?


Con
#2
Is it true that the law gives the right to the parent of a child to dictate in the best welfare of a child?
Oh, you want to debate about legal rights. Umm okay.

The answer to your question is yes, probably. I dont know exactly because I dont read the law.

Would this include whom the children are involved with that can affect their well being and welfare?
Yes.

So obviously, its the law that dictates, not the parents.
Round 2
Pro
#3
"So obviously, its the law that dictates, not the parents."

The law dictates that the parents are to dictate.

Be it that you answered yes to those questions, I thank you for agreeing and conceding there.
Con
#4
The law dictates that the parents are to dictate
You mean parents must obey the law?

Round 3
Pro
#5
"You mean parents must obey the law?"

I'm going to put the whole picture in frame. I mean children must obey their parents that obey the law.

Parents obeying the law was never a contention nor does it change the right given to the parent by law to dictate the relationship affairs of children.

So you can deviate a bit but I'm going to bring it full circle regardless.


Con
#6
Well, since the topic is "parent dictates"

We have seen that parent doesnt dictate, but simply obeys the law.
Round 4
Pro
#7
"We have seen that parent doesnt dictate, but simply obeys the law."

Let's look at this example because I think you're either struggling to comprehend delegation or ignoring it.

There's a thing called second in command. Just because the person second in command takes orders, it doesn't change what they're giving to those under them orders. It doesn't change them to non orders.

So being that I brought up second in command, let's look at a military scenario.

The staff sergeant receives their orders from the first class sergeant to move his squad in position of infiltration.

Now the staff sergeant abides and follows this command. The staff sergeant gives an order to one sergeant to move 500 feet east. The first class sergeant did not dictate this order. The staff sergeant did as they been delegated to move his troops. The staff sergeant commands two sergeants to utilize a rifle while another squad member is posting lookout only. These are all dictated by the squad leader. It was not dictated by the one over the squad leader.

Likewise with parents, the state will require children to be schooled and cared for. It's up to the parents to dictate what school in what neighborhood and whom will teach, supervise or babysit the child. So the parent is exercising authority by right of the state. The state didn't dictate all these things. 

By the parent selecting the school, they in turn dictated where they children will be placed in the presence of other children which in turn indirectly has tailored who the child will associate with in a relationship. Whether that is with a teacher, instructor or fellow pupil.

Now feel free to challenge all this, pick it apart, question it, counter it with new points. 
Con
#8
As I said, its the law that dictates.

Parents cannot dictate, merely obey the law.
Round 5
Pro
#9
"As I said". 

Indirectly saying you concede .

I make all those points and get not one counter to any of them.

To the readers I clearly explained that there are ranks to authority. One rank dictates or give commands, instructions or orders to one rank , then that rank given to will relay or decide from general commands to make them more specific to ranks below.

It's the same way with an employer. You have upper management, assistant management, supervisors and employees. Supervisors get their authority from management but they've been still given authority. If they can't dictate, then that means they haven't been given authority.

I believe the opposing side understands and knows all this but just doesn't want to accept being wrong. Sometimes they'll be humble and concede, other times their best response is just to repeat a refuted point .

Maybe the opposing sides decide to hold points until the last round where I can't respond to them.

Case closed in any event.




Con
#10
I guess this is bye.