Instigator / Pro
14
1500
rating
11
debates
54.55%
won
Topic
#5210

Transgenderism is not valid

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
6
0
Better sources
4
2
Better legibility
2
1
Better conduct
2
1

After 2 votes and with 10 points ahead, the winner is...

Tickbeat
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
One day
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
4
1500
rating
4
debates
25.0%
won
Description

We are all born as either a male or a female. Males have XY chromosomes, and females have XX chromosomes. And with them comes a plethora of biological differences between the male and the female body. These exist as a mechanism for reproduction and therefore the continuation of the human race moving away from extinction. And yet, even though almost everything about you is biologically coded towards your gender, people will still try to change that. If they are born a male, but they want to be a female, because they feel as if they are one, then they might decide that they are now a female. And to accommodate this, they will do all sorts of things to their body to make it look like a woman's, and slowly, over time, permanently and irreversibly change their body, all for the purpose of pursuing to become a gender that they were not. The question is, is this change for the better, or for the worse? That is the topic we will be debating here.

Round 1
Pro
#1
The central thing that ultimately results in transgenderism is a phenomenon known as gender dysphoria. This is where a person feels as though and believes that they are not the same gender that they were assigned at birth. They feel as though they are a different gender than what they actually are, and thus try to change it. And the community validates people for this.

But did you know that there exists a phenomenon known as height dysphoria? This is where a person feels as though and believes that they are not the same height that they were assigned at birth. They feel as though they are a different height than what they actually are. And yet, the community is not going to validate somebody for their height dysphoria and the height that they believe they are, because you cannot change what you objectively are.

How come gender dysphoria is validated, but height dysphoria is not? If a person believes that this is a valid point, they will have one of two responses. They will either double down and say, "You know what, height dysphoria is also valid! You can be whatever height you want to be!" Or, they will say that none of them are correct and say, "You know what, you can't change what you objectively are and therefore neither of these things are valid."

A man is objectively a man, and you can't just decide to be something different and then magically are something different. I can't identify as tall and then suddenly be tall. I can't identify as a glass of milk and then suddenly be a glass of milk. And I can't identify as a different gender and then suddenly be that gender.
Con
#2
nope ur wrong pal
Round 2
Pro
#3
This is a debate. You can't just make a statement without backing it up. Just saying "you're wrong" is not even debating, and is as structurally sound as "because I said so." If I'm wrong, explain why. Explain why you disagree with my statement. Don't just say "you're wrong" and hand wave it away. Unless you want to forfeit.
Con
#4
Forfeited
Round 3
Pro
#5
Forfeited
Con
#6
Forfeited
Round 4
Pro
#7
I don't have anything else to add, as my opponent has not yet posted an argument.
Con
#8
Forfeited
Round 5
Pro
#9
Forfeited
Con
#10
Forfeited