Instigator / Pro
14
1500
rating
10
debates
50.0%
won
Topic
#5210

Transgenderism is not valid

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
6
0
Better sources
4
2
Better legibility
2
1
Better conduct
2
1

After 2 votes and with 10 points ahead, the winner is...

Tickbeat
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
One day
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
4
1500
rating
4
debates
25.0%
won
Description

We are all born as either a male or a female. Males have XY chromosomes, and females have XX chromosomes. And with them comes a plethora of biological differences between the male and the female body. These exist as a mechanism for reproduction and therefore the continuation of the human race moving away from extinction. And yet, even though almost everything about you is biologically coded towards your gender, people will still try to change that. If they are born a male, but they want to be a female, because they feel as if they are one, then they might decide that they are now a female. And to accommodate this, they will do all sorts of things to their body to make it look like a woman's, and slowly, over time, permanently and irreversibly change their body, all for the purpose of pursuing to become a gender that they were not. The question is, is this change for the better, or for the worse? That is the topic we will be debating here.

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@LogicalDebater01

If I say that 1 + 1 objectively equals 2, is that subjective?

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@Tickbeat

It's not the situation that you've created, it's the situation that you've created when it deals with reality or logic. It instantly becomes subjective.

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@LogicalDebater01

How is it circular? If I say that you objectively are [your height = x], how is it circular to say that you are x tall?
If I say that you objectively are [gender = y], how is it circular to say that you are a y?

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@Tickbeat

Don't make it circular now, it is only circular when you make it circular.

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@LogicalDebater01

What you objectively are is not subjective.

This debate is too subjective, I do not have spare time to argue for a matter that is too subjective.

I think it's too late now to change it now, but I feel like the end of the long description might be a tiny bit misleading. The question isn't, "are transgender people changing their bodies for the better?" It's, "is transgenderism valid, and should it be validated by the community?"

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@Tickbeat

its all along the lines of your body your choice and since its 2024 we have more choices and just because someone decides to take the options available and live there life that way that is ok but they should be kept in facilities like dementia patients through and through because why destroy our progress as population just for a few people who choose to live in ignorantly to the way the world works

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@Tickbeat

Depending on who accepts this, they will likely miss the question at the end of the description. It's very easy to get lost on this broad topic, but just staying in scope may be enough for victory.