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Topic
#5235

I argue abortion is murder and intrinsically wrong

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Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
Two weeks
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One month
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Description

Abortion is morning after pill, full term, labor complications, death of the child

As you can tell I'm not going to be a child and apply some dumb unestablished global rule out of nowhere and declare myself a winner.

Just do your best to make me bleed.

Round 1
Pro
#1
Debate Abortion is wrong and an intrinsic evil
Concrete ideas and abstract ideas

*Concrete first*

Ashley Acosta lost her unborn baby in a crash with a drunk driver on January thirtieth, Twenty-Twenty-Two. 

1- Make a simple apprehension of this
2- Perceive the objects intellectually
3- Do not affirm or deny anything concerning it


Just to check with you

  • You should not have made any moral judgment because the baby could have been the next Hitler. 
  • The mother could be evil
  • We could be living in a simulation and this is the test on whether or not we may wake up

Now that you have developed a clear view we’ll begin again

Eric Smith killed a boy Derrick Robbie on August second, Nineteen-Ninety-Three

1- Make a simple apprehension of this
2- Perceive the objects intellectually
3- Do not affirm or deny anything concerning it

  • The ender was Thirteen years old
  • The younger was Four years old


Two more

A 13-year-old boy killed a cat in Twenty-Twenty-One in the month of July 

1- Make a simple apprehension of this
2- Perceive the objects intellectually
3- Do not affirm or deny anything concerning


A fourteen year old boy fatally wounded a home intruder in Twenty-Twenty-Four in the month of February

1- Make a simple apprehension of this
2- Perceive the objects intellectually
3- Do not affirm or deny anything concerning




These are my concrete ideas

Thirteen years old
Boy
Killing
Cat
Baby
Dead
Woman
Grief
Manipulation
Planned harm
Guilt
Evil
Shotgun
Burglar
Blood
Fear
Loud


Regarding my personal stance I consider all these events a tragedy 

Feel free to pick your own concrete terms

*Abstract ideas*

Def: certain qualities which are taken from definitive subjects, that are universal to that definitive subject


Thirteen years old
  • Boyishness
  • Immaturity
  • Shortness
  • Simpleness of thought
  • Etc
Boy
Killing
Cat
Baby
Dead
Woman
Grief
Manipulation
Planned harm
Guilt
Evil
Shotgun
Burglar
Blood
Fear
Loud

Each of these certain universal qualities are naturally derived from what appears in the mind

Hence we need to agree before we discuss further

I'm sorry I'm too tired and I need to compose other arguments. I think I left you enough to argue against or agree with me on.

You take care care.



Con
#2
Preamble:
I shall prove my case on two fronts, which shall be given their own sections below
  1. Abortion is NOT murder
  2. Abortion is NOT intrinsically wrong

Burden of Proof
There is a two part resolution, and while closely related, both must be upheld for pro to win. Firstly that abortion is murder, and secondly that abortion is intrinsically wrong.  

"I argue" is obviously a turn of phrase with no baring on the debate, similar to 'resolved,' or 'this house believes.'


1. Murder:
Murder is primarily a legal declaration. Places which make abortion illegal (still usually a separate crime from murder), are almost universally operating under insane and repressive religious laws.

Further, as is the case in the United States of America, cult lead areas making abortion illegal are doing so anti-constitutionally. The constitution's 13th amendment forbade slavery and involuntary servitude [1]. Needless to say, forcing women to be pregnant against their wishes is using them as a slave caste.

Self defense against being enslaved, would also prevent an action from being murder.
 

2. Wrong:
Since abortion harms no one, it cannot be a moral wrong (especially not universally).

More than 98% of all abortions occur before the fetus has even developed the apparatuses needed for pain.


3. Q&A:
I'll admit I do not understand the thought exercise. However, none of the cases cited involve abortion.


Sources:
  1. https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/amendments/amendment-xiii

Round 2
Pro
#3
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Con
#4
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Round 3
Pro
#5
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#6
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Round 4
Pro
#7
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#8
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Pro
#9
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