Instigator / Pro

1309

rating

272

debates

40.63%

won

Topic

#5241

Cthulhu is the true God

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

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After 2 votes and with 6 points ahead, the winner is...

Benjamin

Parameters

Publication date: 02.08.2024 10:16PM
Last updated date: 02.23.2024 03:01PM
Type: Rated
Number of rounds: 3
Time for argument: Two days
Max argument characters: 1,000
Voting period: Two weeks
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open
Minimal rating: None

Contender / Con

Benjamin

1774

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debates

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Round 1

Best.Korea

02.09.2024 02:30PM

Pro

Premise 1:

If existence of something cannot be disproven, it exists.

Premise 2:

Existence of Cthulhu cannot be disproven.

Conclusion:

Cthulhu exists.

My opponent has burden of proof to prove that Cthulhu doesnt exist.

I will wait.

Benjamin

02.09.2024 02:49PM

Con

Argument: Cthulhu is Not the True God

Definition: A true god is defined as a deity possessing supreme authority, omnipotence, omniscience, and moral perfection, with substantiated existence through reliable evidence and logical reasoning.

Evidence:

Literary Fiction: Cthulhu is a fictional cosmic entity created by author H.P. Lovecraft, belonging to the horror genre known as Lovecraftian fiction.
Contradictions in Attributes: Cthulhu is depicted as a malevolent and monstrous being, devoid of moral perfection or benevolence, contradicting the concept of a true god.
Lack of Historical or Cultural Recognition: Cthulhu lacks recognition as a deity in any historical or cultural context outside of Lovecraft's fictional universe.
Fictional Nature: Cthulhu exists solely within the realm of fiction and has no basis in historical or religious texts, mythology, or cultural practices.
Scientific Understanding: Cthulhu's existence is purely fictional and has no relevance to scientific inquiry or understanding of the natural world.

Conclusion: Cthulhu fails to meet the criteria of a true god due to its fictional nature and contradictions in attributes.

Round 2

Best.Korea

02.09.2024 02:50PM

Pro

Can you prove that Cthulhu doesnt exist?

Benjamin

02.09.2024 02:57PM

Con

Premise 1:
If existence of something cannot be disproven, it exists.

Logical fallacy.

Premise 2:
Existence of Cthulhu cannot be disproven.

We have evidence that Cthulu is a fictional being that doesn't exist in the real world but only in the fictional one.

Conclusion:
Cthulhu exists.

Fails by faulty premises. PRO has not fullfilled his BoP.

Round 3

Best.Korea

02.09.2024 02:58PM

Pro

Since there is no proof that Cthulhu doesnt exist, the only logical conclusion is that Cthulhu exists.

Benjamin

02.09.2024 03:01PM

Con

PRO fails his BoP.

Barney

02.09.2024 04:47PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Pro offers a simple but logically valid case. Con counters that it’s unsound. And Pro doesn’t really defend….

Savant

02.09.2024 04:06PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Pro rests their argument on premises that Con does not accept and for which Pro does not provide evidence. Pro has the BoP, but Con gives several arguments for Cthulhu not existing (arguably proving that Cthulhu does not exist, as Pro insisted they do), which makes this essentially a foregone conclusion.