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#5275

We should have more gays and pedophiles in the world

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After 1 vote and with 1 point ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman
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@Savant

Ty for vote.

He actually found the best rebuttal possible to my Kritik-esque case but because he kept it as low as 1, it let me simply dismiss it.

If he said 45 more I'd say that can just mean 44 gays and 1 pedo maybe, which he doesn't have another Round to.

He found the exact easiest rebuttal to destruct my case but he didn't expand enough to take it seriously and didn't specify how many more rapes or molestings are happening in his hypothetical.

He also could argue it's agony for pedos to resist their urges and thus I am increasing suffering but I'd make a 'suffering is part of life, the struggle can make you stronger' rebuttal.

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@WyIted

There is not much benefit for anyone to come out as a pedophile.

I remember OmniPolitics from youtube.

He came out as a pedophile and wanted to debate it, but got a bunch of death threats and even people posting his address everywhere on internet while saying things like "now we know where you live".

The only thing person gets for coming out as pedophile is death threats, social condemnation or just insults.

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@WyIted

It is hard to tell for sure how many pedophiles are there in the world.

I assume not much.

I skimmed it and saw it. I read some rounds portions entirely and skimmed others. Just adding to what you said

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@WyIted

If you read the debate, I say nearly all of that in Round 1.

I still can't vote yet. I will say I don't think pedophiles are as small in number as we would like to believe. At least not judging by my run ins with people who tried to molest me as a kid.

I would say the failure to get treatment is more than likely due to a fear of being outed to the police even if thy are a non offending pedophile a therapist may feel a legal obligation to report them if they have any contact with children. So a family man with w daughters who fights the urge to molest seeks help so he doesn't molest than a therapist would be required by law to report that his daughters are in danger and his kids will be taken away, even if he never touched them and in fact was in therapy to ensure he never will touch them.

The laws requiring reporting are probably to blame for a lot of incidents of molestation. I guess you would have to balance whether the report laws save more children or harm more children to know if thy re worth it, but I am skeptical of forced reporting.

Bump for a vote