Instigator / Pro
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1764
rating
43
debates
94.19%
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Topic
#552

Ramshutu vs RationalMadman Rap Battle

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Winner
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3

After 3 votes and with 2 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman
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Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
7,500
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Winner selection
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
3
1706
rating
561
debates
68.09%
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Description

Full on Rap Battle. 4 rounds. No rules.

Insults are expected, this is a rap battle. Whoever has the bet rhymes, insults and flow will be declared the winner.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

Both rappers did better then I think I could.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

I judge this without bias at all to any side. I think RM wins this by a good amount. I don't think it was RM just destroying him. I think Ramshutu dug himself a big hole to start, even though his disses were better than RM's

ROUND 1
Ramshutu: The rhymes are very good and the disses are well critiqued. For example

"It’s hard to be original against the guy that everyone’s dissed.
He’s gunna trying to make this into a dick waving contest.
Sorry bro, waving? you’ll just be jiggling at best."

I think it is a great diss and there are many others. But the flow is so choppy and have breaks of fast to short, it makes it read like poetry than a rap. This isn't bad, but RM is good, so he will write in poetry and rap verses.
RM: His disses were actually decent in this, I think his flow is superb, so I will give him the win here

RM 1-0

ROUND 2
This is one of the best round from an overall view of things. I think Ram and RM both have expectional flow and wordplay here and I think it is a tie for here. I do think that the disses come down to a marrow coin flip in this scenario. I do like RM analogies a bit more in this debate, so my vote has to go to RM here. This was RM's best round overall

RM 2-0

ROUND 3
Ramshutu digs a hole for himself in here. Long to short, short short, long, the flow is literally all over the place for him. His disses are pretty good. But RM just shits himself here. The wordplay is hard to flow, it is going all over the place, and is structured pretty, ehh. It isn't great and his disses never really stand out at all. It is, average. But RM wins this

RM 3-0

ROUND 4

RM sweeps. The flow is pretty good here and the disses are very well thought out. Ramshutu doesn't come close

RM 4-0

FEEDBACK
Ram: Fix your flow. I thought it was choppy and didn't make a whole lot of sense. It was very hard to rap too, but if you improved that, you would've beaten RM by a mile
RM: There were many times you would have lost this debate if Ram did not save you. If that was your effort vs an improve Ram or even me, it would lose. Improve your wordplay

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

I judged this on a scale from 0-4 using four categories, Flow, Wordplay, Diss and Rhyme. The maximum number of points for each category is four, and the maximum points per opponent all together is 16. Keep in mind these are not my usual standards given that this is a relatively amateur battle, and I would be using a different scale if this was meant to deal with the full spectrum of rapping skills.
RATIONALMADMAN
Rhyme: 3/4
Diss: 2/4
Wordplay: 2/4
Flow 2/4

Total score: 9/16

RAMSHUTU
Rhyme: 2/4
Diss: 3/4
Wordplay: 2/4
Flow: 1/4

Total score: 8/16

EXPLANATION
Rhyme:
RM rhymed quite well in this battle, carrying the same rhyme scheme across multiple paragraphs in some cases, and also making use of intermediate rhymes between main rhymes. For example " I fucked a fat bitch with a cactus and did crack hits on the mattress, I'm wasted/ I practiced gymnastic backflips while she gobbled my fat dick, and catfish is how that bitch told me it tasted/"
Ramshutu's rhyming was far less intricate, although he did make use of that technique on a smaller scale. Most of his rhyme schemes however were short and straightforward, with some lines not even rhyming at all.
Diss:
Ramshutu did better with disses in this battle. He seemed more on the offensive whereas RM was more on the defensive for most of the battle, and he also did well to correct him on the technicalities of historical terminology and references.
Wordplay:
They both used a little wordplay but nothing too impressive.
Flow:
RM has a decent flow although someone who is not as learned in the ways of rap as I am wouldn't be able to tell just by reading it. Ramshutu has a very straightforward and basic flow that only seldom-connects at times.