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nuggiet1

1500

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Topic

#6068

AfD is a terrible party.

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Finished

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Winner

After 2 votes and with 1 point ahead, the winner is...

7000series

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Publication date: 04.12.2025 11:41AM
Last updated date: 05.15.2025 12:40AM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 1
Time for argument: Two weeks
Max argument characters: 1,000
Voting period: One month
Point system: Winner selection
Voting system: Open

Contender / Con

7000series

1515

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Description

Is AfD a terrible party?

Round 1

nuggiet1

04.13.2025 02:08AM

Pro

In 9.2 "Immigration from Other EU Countries," the AfD seeks to reestablish national authority by limiting freedom of movement and reorienting EU legislation. They imply that people come to Germany for the wrong reasons and that immigrants abuse their rights. "He has to adapt to his new host country, not the other way around," the AfD says in 9.4 "Integration is More Than Just Learning the German Language," demonstrating its rejection of a multicultural society. In addition to adjusting to German culture, immigrants should be allowed to preserve their language and culture for coming generations. Assuming that these immigrants only seek aid, they assert in 9.5 "Create Transparency in the Costs of Immigration" that "Immigrants with low qualifications primarily enter the country by abusively applying for asylum..."

7000series

04.15.2025 12:40AM

Con

I win this debate if I refute the claim that AfD is a terrible party. If I convince you that AfD is a good, neutral, or bad party, then I win, so long as it is not below bad, which would make it terrible.

Reasons for Germany to Oppose Immigration:

The idea of a cultural mixing-pot is scary to many German traditionalists who see assimilation as a destructive force.
Immigrants coming into Germany are generally poorer than German natives. An open immigration policy would stress Germany’s social welfare system.
Rapid demographic change would cause further social instability in Germany, which is already unstable.

You may still not like what AfD has to say about immigration, but it is a fact that AfD holds many deeply German values. If AfD did not exist, then many Germans would be politically unrepresented. Due to Hitler's legacy, many Germans have (until very recently) faced social backlash and even censure for siding with any right-wing, nationalistic parties like AfD.

OOPS, 1,000 character limit !

WyIted

04.12.2025 12:21PM

"they are a terrible party because the liberals don't like them, like they like the traditional conservatives who kiss their ass and make no progress"

fauxlaw

04.25.2025 08:48PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Winner

1 point(s)

Reason:

Pro would have served his readers and voters to take more caution to prepare a better Description of the intended debate because I, for one, had no idea what AfD was, let alone the numerics of 9.1, 9.2, etc, [and still don't - I should not have to do that research just to vote] nor that this involved Germany until several lines into Pro's argument. This is one reason why a 1,000 character limit to a round may be challenging, but ultimately uninformative. Debate is dependent on information. Next time, give more.
Con made a good argument of definition by creating a reason to favor a judgment of "good, neutral, bad, orterrible" rather than Pro's limiting "terrible" or not.
Con wins.

TheRizzler

04.25.2025 01:44AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Winner

1 point(s)

Reason:

This debate was far too short for any real rebuttals or multiple proofs. Not enough information.