Instigator / Pro
1
1500
rating
2
debates
25.0%
won
Topic
#6290
Being trans is not a choice
Status
Finished
The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
After 3 votes and with 2 points ahead, the winner is...
AdaptableRatman
Parameters
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Standard
- Number of rounds
- 3
- Time for argument
- One day
- Max argument characters
- 10,000
- Voting period
- One week
- Point system
- Winner selection
- Voting system
- Open
Contender / Con
3
1597
rating
33
debates
65.15%
won
Description
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Round 1
Everyone has a gender identity it’s your personal sense of being a boy, girl, both, neither, or something else. For most people, it matches the sex they were assigned at birth. But for trans people, it doesn’t. This isn’t something they chose it’s who they are.
Being trans is choosing to take hormonal altering stuff, matbe even cosmetic surgery to even genitalia to appear as the other gender.
Even if you don't do that, it is your choice to declare yourself as trans.
'Transition' is a verb, the noun refers to 'the transition'. In the same way 'jump' is a verb but 'the jump/leap' is noun-format. If transitioning is an action as 'transition' is a verb, it follows that the status of being trans relies on chosen actions, not on solely the urge to take said actions.
Round 2
Forfeited
The most wonderful gift. Tje glorious penis and masculine strength and prowess of man, the glorious breasts, emotions, womb and lifegiving capacity of women.
To take that gift and throw it away is a choice. Never dare let cancel culture coerce us to think otherwise. Say maybe, think never.
Holiest Lord, I pray to save these sinners fron their vile betrayal of the male or female soul you blessed them with.
Amen.
Round 3
no one wakes up and chooses to be transgender, just as no one chooses their eye color, sexual orientation, or innate personality.
Being trans is the realization that one’s internal sense of gender does not align with the sex assigned at birth.You can choose to take hormones.You can choose to socially or medically transition. But the trans identity itself is not chosen it is responded to
This is not speculative. The American Medical Association, American Psychological Association, and the World Health Organization all recognize that:Gender identity is complex, involving biological, psychological, and social factors.Being transgender is not a mental illness, and it is not a lifestyle choice.Trans people often report knowing they were “different” from a very young age—long before they had the language or agency to “choose.”
In fact, many trans people go through years of pain, confusion, and fear before coming out because if it were a choice, why would anyone choose to suffer rejection, discrimination, or even violence?
Being trans is the realization that one’s internal sense of gender does not align with the sex assigned at birth.You can choose to take hormones.You can choose to socially or medically transition. But the trans identity itself is not chosen it is responded to
This is not speculative. The American Medical Association, American Psychological Association, and the World Health Organization all recognize that:Gender identity is complex, involving biological, psychological, and social factors.Being transgender is not a mental illness, and it is not a lifestyle choice.Trans people often report knowing they were “different” from a very young age—long before they had the language or agency to “choose.”
In fact, many trans people go through years of pain, confusion, and fear before coming out because if it were a choice, why would anyone choose to suffer rejection, discrimination, or even violence?
Forfeited
As I have sworn off voting for the time being, I will comment here that the Library of Medicine of the U.S. has defined "trans" as a genetic condition by which one is born and is not either XX, nor XY, but variable alterations of both, but also that only 0.000007% of the 8B humans populating Earth exhibit these varied conditions in the 23rd pair of chromosomes, which amounts to about 500 individuals, worldwide; about 3 people per country on average. As people claiming to be "trans" far exceeds this number, the balance making the claim have a head trip, ergo, choice, whether they realize the ramifications of the choice, or not. Many apparently do not, because their 23rd chromosome says XX or XY in 99.9999% of them..
Actually, I've changed my mind. I agree with Savant; this debate ought to be a tie. Would one of the mods please remove my vote?
Last round blitzkrieg is filthy as it gets. 1 day rounds sealed the deal fir Pro.
Nothing is a choice.