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#975

Africa & Why All Foreign Invaders Should Be Removed Immediately

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After 3 votes and with 11 points ahead, the winner is...

Alec
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Description

The title speaks for itself, the title speaks volumes and the African people should rid their land of all foreign invaders who are not native to the land. Though Africa is displayed in the media negatively, this huge vast land is rich in culture as well as rich in people. The most diverse people, some of the most diverse foods and very diverse animals reside here. The problem with Africa comes from the foreign invaders who have come in and caused carnage. The taking of land, colonization, murder and the white-washing of its history has been taking place for hundreds of years.

South Africa & Egypt are ground zero for the hyjacking of African culture and acheivements. Many uneducated people think that Egypt isnt even in Africa because of all the foreign invaders who reside there today. The Europeans in South Africa are mad because the native people of the land want their land back. These theives don't receive much sympathy from outside interests because everyone knows that this is not their homeland.

All fake missionaries should be physically removed immediately because they're not doing so-called God's work. From hunting the natural wildlife to the spreading of diseases, Africa has no choice but to rid all of these leeches before it's too late because the leeches have detsroyed the people & have destroyed all of the great African civilizations. If anyone can come up with a good enough argument on behalf of the bloodsuckers, then you may accept this debate.

Good Luck

The hypocrisy is the comment section is unreal.

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@Barney

Yeah I don't think taking land away from people based on their race is good. It's textbook racism.

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@TheAtheist

It's basically taking land away from people of the wrong skin pigment... This includes vital farm land, without any skilled managers to replace them.

For a recent example: https://www.dw.com/en/zimbabwe-between-land-ownership-and-food-security/a-49056618

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@Barney

I don't know enough about Zimbabwe's land redistribution to debate about it. Maybe that's even a good idea. What I'm against is deporting all non-Africans from Africa.

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@mairj23
@TheAtheist

A decent topic might be "Zimbabwe: land redistribution is a good policy"

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@TheAtheist

Just come up with a similar topic. I don't want to use the same title for the second debate.

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@TheAtheist

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Vote Reported: TheAtheist // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 7 points to con

RFD: Pro's argument was flawed and was essentially removing all non-blacks from Africa.

Reason for mod action: In order to be eligible to vote, Accounts must have read the site's COC AND completed at least 2 non-troll debates without any forfeits OR posted 100 forum posts

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The voter should also review this: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/346?page=1&post_number=4

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@mairj23

Yeah, I’m ready. You can make the debate and challenge me.

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@TheAtheist

Yeah, that's cool. Whenever you get ready, just let me know.

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@mairj23

Could we have a debate on the same topic? I’d like do give some of my own arguments and hopefully change your mind.

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@Barney

Ok, I see what you're saying.

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@Alec

Ok, Thanks man.

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@mairj23

A debate I suggest studying is "Fetuses as a replacement for the USD" (https://www.debateart.com/debates/866)

While that debate was [no comment], the extreme scale of the proposal is similar. Note the big areas pro focused on in R1: Justification, followed immediately by Practicality.

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@Alec

ayyyyy, Milo, he got censored

I'm in R3, and a debate this length should not take this long to read. For future debates, please use better organization: http://tiny.cc/DebateArt

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@mairj23

Reason for decision.

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@Barney

No problem, that's cool.

What's an RFD?

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@Alec
@mairj23

The organization in this debate has finally made me go write a formatting guide for debates here...

That said, I've starting writing a RFD, but am only a round in. I have a pub crawl to attend tonight, so I'll probably publish a vote tomorrow.

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@Barney

No one has voted yet.

Bump.

It's more complicated than this, but a reminder about blind nationalism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7tvauOJMHo

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@Barney

How much time do you want as a buffer to determine if they would vote on it?

If no one votes on this, remind me.

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@K_Michael
@Dr.Franklin

Care to vote on this debate?

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@mairj23

I actually have sources, you've provided none. Do your own research.

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@K_Michael

Are you even aware that a guy sent in one of those genealogy tests to Ancestry.com and he used dog saliva? Ancestry.com said his results were 30% Native-American & 70% European. Yes, the story is all over the internet and television if you don't believe me.

One group huhh? You may want to do some actual research on missionaries in Africa.

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@mairj23

So melanin is more important than what country? DNA tests can distinguish Welsh from English, Austrian from German.
"The only difference between the Australian, British, Irish, German, Russian etc., are Accents." <-- BS

I found nothing on the Internet about smallpox being spread to Africans through blankets.
I did find an article that says only one group, a band of Swiss mercenaries, ever did this to Native Americans. No missionaries or settlers were involved.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2668906/
https://www.historynet.com/smallpox-in-the-blankets.htm

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@K_Michael

Does smallpox-infected blankets ring a bell?

Illegal/legal hunting was never the argument...but killing is killing.
Nordic - a geographical region/culture
Slavic - Russians, Ukrainians, Poles, Czechs etc., Nothing more than different nationalities
There is some race mixing, which gives them the classification of Indo-European, but the majority are typical Caucasians who have different accents.
You can't be too bright if you think black is an eye color. Africans have green, hazel, dark brown etc. as well...blue on occasions.

Italians with olive skin tone. Yeah, some do and that came from race mixing with the African Moors, which is why Italians weren't even considered white for the longest period of time. Did you not know that?...Dude, I'm black & I have freakin' freckles...White doesn't have a variation because it lacks melanin.

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@mairj23

NO, I DESTROYED you.

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@mairj23

"The only difference between the Australian, British, Irish, German, Russian etc., are Accents."
HAH! Slavic, Nordic, Gaelic, Latin, and Aborigine don't mean anything to you, do you?

"If Africa isn't diverse, then why are there so many different skin complexions, different eye color, different hair texture and different body types? I'm going to take a wild guess. I bet you think Europeans are diverse. I fail to see any diversity in Europeans because you all have pale skin."

Last I checked, in native Africans there are only two natural eye colors, brown and black, as opposed to Europe's blue, green, brown, and hazel.
Italians have a olive skin tone, Irish have freckles, Norwegians have their shade of white. Not exactly identical Caucasian groups.

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@mairj23

Missionaries have never intentionally spread disease, but when two isolated cultures meet, at least one will get sick from it. The native Americans had a similar experience with Europeans.
I don't have anything against immigration, despite your assumptions. And my stance on this topic, that non-Africans should be able to stay in Africa, is also an open stance.
Hunting isn't illegal, and such camps are either run with government sanction or directly by the government. Shooting a cheetah to save your cattle IS illegal.

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@K_Michael

Trying to go against the topic of this discussion tells me everything that I need to know about your stance.

Hunting is still killing. Protecting cattle isn't the same as breeding camps and poaching.

You said, "prove that missionaries spread diseases (in this generation)." So, that means you're aware of missionaries spreading diseases in the past...Am I right?? Thank you, you just proved my point without even knowing it.

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@Dr.Franklin

That wasn't a debate. It was more so a monologue. I teach while you sit quietly and listen. Nothing more, nothing less.

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@RationalMadman

Hey,you want to continue my debate about gun control that you accepted? If not,then tell me,because my time is being wasted. I'll start a new one.

Alec I will admit something, you actually have proper skill at debating. This is genuinely artistic right-wing propaganda and I am not even being sarcastic.

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@mairj23

We just got in a debate

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@mairj23

"Now compare your question to American's situation with Hispanic immigrants. It's a sob story when whites have to go, but it's justice when other races have to go. I'm going to pre-empt your strike by saying "all immigrants aren't illegal," but many legal immigrants have been deported from the US."
You assume to know my stance on Mexican immigration. Don't assume.

"Do foreigners not go to Africa just to kill the wildlife that were bred at breeding camps?"
Yes, but said breeding camps are specifically for hunting. The tourists legally pay to shoot a gazelle or whatever. Poachers do it illegally and even normal farmers will shoot predators and prey alike to protect their cattle and eliminate competition.

"Take a look at the missionaries' track record in Africa. From purposely spreading diseases to raping young children."
Prove that missionaries have purposely spread disease in this generation. Continue to assert "truths" without proof or evidence, and I will continue to ignore them.

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@Dr.Franklin

It's much more joyful to play in the game than to cheerlead from the sideline.

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@K_Michael

1. Now compare your question to American's situation with Hispanic immigrants. It's a sob story when whites have to go, but it's justice when other races have to go. I'm going to pre-empt your strike by saying "all immigrants aren't illegal," but many legal immigrants have been deported from the US...Yes, the white child can be a legal citizen, but his grand parents & great-great grand parents helped to create the issues of owning 90% of the fertile land while the original natives deal with 10% of waste land. Case in Point: America-Natives & their wastelands of reservations.

2. There are white poachers also. Do foreigners not go to Africa just to kill the wildlife that were bred at breeding camps? Yes, you've been proved wrong.
Take a look at the missionaries' track record in Africa. From purposely spreading diseases to raping young children.

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@K_Michael

Smart move

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@Dr.Franklin

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, and I'm an older sibling, so I'm capable of simplification if not.

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@K_Michael

True, but mairj23, wont understand he dumb

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@mairj23

1.What qualifies as an invader? If a white child was born in South Africa to a couple of missionaries or medical students or something who had become citizens, then he is LEGALLY just as much an African as the boy next door whose parents and grandparents and great, great, great grandparents had all been born in Africa. The caucasian boy would miss his home, Africa, just as much as his neighbor. Is that boy an invader? Are his parents? Would HIS children?

2. " From hunting the natural wildlife to the spreading of diseases, Africa has no choice but to rid all of these leeches"
A. The majority of poachers in Africa are native Africans and Arabs, as far as I know. Prove me wrong and this point will be valid.
B. Europeans aren't giving Africans diseases that they have no immunity to anymore.

No disrespect, but I'm fairly confident in what I speak about.

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@mairj23

Here's a forum you might want to comment on: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/1057?page=6

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@mairj23

There are no African colonies left dumbass

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@mairj23

What African country are you from?