Invincible Mafia Day Phase 1

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@JoeBob
I don't regret my train on Pie, because it locked him into a claim and he was behaving scummy. I regret pressuring Barney in retrospect, but I want to emphasize that I didn't start his train and immediately retracted my pressure once he responded.

I guess I am defensive about revealing my role. I have a lot of pressure so I will claim. Really sucks cuz the role is going to lose most of its utility now
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I am The Immortal.


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@AustinL0926
There's a big difference between lurking in the beginning of the day and lurking after 4 people are voting you. I also found that wagon relatively unprovoked. And searching for patterns in data, by definition, requires finding data to support a claim, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.
That makes no reason. Also for patterns, you can’t just ignore contradictory data, which you did. I provided games where the data contradicted your claim, rendering your claim null and void.

I find him suspicious behaviorally, while mechanically speaking, he's a null. Doctor could be a fakeclaim, or it might not. He's rolled doctor 2 times in the past few games though I think, so it would be a fakeclaim that he would be likely to try.
That’s your perogative.
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Wanted to see if anyone would claim my character so I could CC but no. I am Oliver Greyson.
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@AustinL0926
And yes, it's a double standard, because I know that I'm town and I think that you aren't.
Likewise
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I'm actually so annoyed rn... my role is fudged now.
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@AustinL0926
I am The Immortal.
And what is your role
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@JoeBob
Wanted to see if anyone would claim my character so I could CC but no. I am Oliver Greyson.
Dude why would you claim. You have no reason to
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@JoeBob
Not sure why you outed that but it doesn't really matter, only a true maniac would try and claim that knowing Innocent Child was in the game.
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@ILikePie5
In hindsight that was a bad idea
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I called that was JoeBob’s character. Only one that makes sense at the moment 

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I am the Bleeder, but it's weirdly flavored (for balance reasons I presume). If I die in the DP, I get revived for the NP and then die at the end of the next DP (I can still vote and post during that DP). If I die in the NP, I get revived for the DP and then die at the end of the next NP (and can still be targeted during that NP).

E.g.

Lynched DP2, I survive to the end of DP3
NKed NP2, I survive to the end of NP3



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@JoeBob
I’ve caught up on the DP, but I don’t have a lot of time to contribute this evening (I’ve got a Seder tonight with my family), so I’m going to just try to give basic thoughts based on recent events.

Wanted to see if anyone would claim my character so I could CC but no. I am Oliver Greyson.
yeah… you didn’t need to do that. It was pretty obvious given that he fits the profile perfectly, but it was unnecessary.
I am The Immortal.
Alright. 
I'm actually so annoyed rn... my role is fudged now.
I’m honestly unclear about this. The statement implies that the role is both obvious and somehow made impotent by the knowledge of the character.
I am the Bleeder, but it's weirdly flavored
…what? How is this fudged? It’s specific and our knowledge of it has no bearing on the outcome.


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Official Vote Count:

Austin- 3/5- iLikePie5, savant, Best.korea
iLikePie5- 1/5-  Austin
Vader- 1/5- GP
Barney- 1/5- Vader

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@AustinL0926
So we have to lynch you to confirm your role? 

Sounds good to me.
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@whiteflame
I could have baited a quickhammer in a MYLO situation and then voted out scum with town the next day. Or I could extend reaching MYLO by one day if scum killed me during the night.
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@AustinL0926
That’s sort of how bleeder works I’m pretty sure.

Makes sense for the character and can be easily testable as well. I’m not sure if we hold off on testing it or go through this DP. 
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@Best.Korea
I'd rather not, since I'd be dead at the end of the next day.
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@Vader
I defined Bleeder differently in my game so that it only worked on NKs. It's a bit of a obscure role tbh so it's not rly standardized.
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Ok I gtg now for a bit.
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@AustinL0926
I could have baited a quickhammer in a MYLO situation and then voted out scum with town the next day. Or I could extend reaching MYLO by one day if scum killed me during the night.
I guess that’s true, though notably you’d have to survive out to that point to achieve either of those goals and your decision not to claim might have just hampered that. Honestly, you could’ve gotten away with the character claim alone or just claimed normal Bleeder to invite the quick hammer. Its oddly anti-town to specify the flavor.
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@AustinL0926
I'd rather not, since I'd be dead at the end of the next day.
I have no problem with that, as otherwise you are non-confirmed possible fake claim.

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I’m really disliking how bloodthirsty BK is.
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@Barney
I’m really disliking how bloodthirsty BK is.
Yeah… behaviorally, he’s still the most sus to me, though the Doc claim makes it hard to justify picking him this DP. That being said, the fact that scum have a fake role claim (one that Luna says he only hinted at) makes me suspect that scum received a pretty strong claim. I’m not ruling out Doc for that.
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@whiteflame
It would be funny if you lynched a doctor tho.
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@Best.Korea
Sure it would.
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I am not suggesting, I am just saying it would be funny.
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But if not me or Austin, who will you lynch?

I might even confirm my role if I survive np1, but Austin will never confirm his until someone lynches him, which is great for him.
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Dashboard             Role                           Character
Joebob (town)       ???                               Kid Omni-Man         
Greyparrot               Probe                         Dupli-Kate
Whiteflame              ???                             Softclaim (protagonist… I can’t find the post)
ILikePie5.                  commuter              Invincible
savant.                      Easily confirmable
Barney.                      Soft claim 
AustinL0926.              Bleeder.                   Abraham Lincoln
best.korea.                Doctor.                     PPG/Atom-Eve           
Vader.                           ???                             ???


Before Joe said he’s Oliver, I wondered if the theme split might be as simple as Viltrumites. I’m now less sus toward Pie (as much as Mark is evil in most universes, so no guarantee).


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@whiteflame
I strongly sus BK even with the doctor claim. But a NP or two will prove which side he’s really on.