Invincible Mafia Day Phase 1

Alright, then please respond to my earlier request. I don't think you're going to be able to rally people around the picks you already have, so who would you choose that could get the votes?

I'd prefer to lynch BK on behavioral grounds

Right now? Barney.

I'm not letting Barney get lynched today.

Although Pie is my top lynch, I understand we're not going to get a consensus on him. As such, I'd prefer to lynch BK on behavioral grounds. Yes, he has a relatively good claim, but that could easily be a result of having a competent scumpartner.

Pie lynch > BK lynch > My lynch >  Vader/whiteflame/Savant lynch  > no lynch > Barney lynch > Joebob/GP lynch.

If we're not getting Pie or BK, then I'm fine with getting lynched. If you really believe I'm town though, then you'll help me get one of those lynches.

Sigh... let's break this down.

First, wagon speed means nothing unless you want to admit to being scum for leading a 6 minute wagon on me. It's more about who's online and who's more free with their vote rather than a coordinated effort by scum.

Second, I gave evidence for why claiming the MC doesn't clear you. You blatantly misconstrued this as being the sole reason I wanted to lynch you, which is disingenous at best.

Third, I hesitated to claim because my role loses utility when claimed. Yours doesn't - in fact, according to my research, commuter can't even be roleblocked. In contrast, my role which becomes very strong in MYLO and pre-MYLO situations is now functionally useless.

I also didn't switch onto Barney and BK, I briefly scumread Barney and dropped him afterward, while merely pointing out some scummy aspects of BK's behavior. If you believe it's not possible to focus on more than one person at a time, idk what even to say.

And yes, I am switching up my town play because I've noticed from my past games that it's not working. That doesn't mean I can't point out my own meta, or logically argue why my behavior so far would be horrific play as scum if I was so. 

Yet you ignored the fact that I would have had to claim Mark Grayson knowing that he was the main character and was going to be in the game. Scum weren’t given a character claim and you ignored that. Claiming the MC might not clear me, but claiming the MC this early in the game with no fake claims given is asinine especially when we know that Lunatic has given main characters every game.

It doesn’t matter whether it loses utility or not. You refused to claim when people that you townread even requested you to claim. I claimed right away. Even if you were the Cop you should’ve claimed. Your mechanics are irrelevant. The delay is insanely scummy.

I never said it’s not possible to focus on more than one person. My problem is that it’s clear you’re information phishing, which is scummy.

Yeah, idk really then. We both townread Joebob and GP, Savant is off the table, I'm not lynching Barney. That leaves Vader, but he hasn't done anything overtly scummy and I'm not going to lynch him without getting a claim.

From my point of view, if I wanted to survive, I would try to get a no lynch. But since that's not going to help town, and only pushes the issue of me to tomorrow, I'm not going to go for that.

With all that said, why do you scumread Barney?

Anything you say regarding your behavior is clearly WIFOM then. Anything you say should not be believed.

It's down to PoE for me and I think Barney's being a bit cagey about announcing his character. That being said, I took a look back at my list of plausible characters he could be based on his softclaim and I have some inkling as to why lynching him might be a problem. Given that, it's likely going to have to be either you or Austin at this stage, though I'm not convinced of either of you.

I’m also unclear why I’m being scumread. 

I think you're a good enough scum player that you could intuit a character claim from a specific enough fake role claim. If Lunatic gave me "Commuter", the first thing I would do is search for characters whose abilities allow them to avoid taking damage.

I wasn't at L - 1, and I was sure that there were scum on the wagon. If you think that players should claim any time a wagon gets anywhere close to them, then two scum plus a misguided townie and force a claim from just about anyone. Once I got to a point of pressure, I claimed my character, and then my role shortly afterward. Furthermore, MY ROLE LOSES UTILITY when claimed. YOUR ROLE does not. It's a false equivalence and you know it.

Show me exactly where I fished for information. I didn't affect Barney's actions at all (that I know of), and BK claimed on his own.

Barney, and only Barney, knows why I townread him. Can't say more. If he rereads the DP he'll realize it too.

And of course, if I was changing my meta to avoid detection, the first thing I would do is notify town of it. Sure I would.

It's PoE, not scumreading. I don't scumread what you've done so far, I just recognize that there are limited choices. We have one confirmed player, two players who claim to be confirmable, and a claimed Doc. That leaves four, and of those four, Vader is the one I have the most solid townread on behaviorally (that seems like a widely-held opinion), and I have decided to set Barney aside for the DP due to a gutread of the situation. That leaves you and Austin. I have more trouble with seeing Austin's choices so far as scummy, but I think he's the safer bet.

Reasonable ig. Though I would like to point out that Doctor is just as unconfirmable as a Commuter, though I don’t think Korea is scum. His behavior reads to me exactly like Mharman’s game.

I suppose that's the best we're going to get, up to the other townies now. I'm willing to make this a 1v1 between me and Pie.

I'd say losing the Doc is a bigger loss than losing the Commuter. Maybe that's just me.

It's PoE, not scumreading. I don't scumread what you've done so far, I just recognize that there are limited choices. We have one confirmed player, two players who claim to be confirmable, and a claimed Doc. That leaves four, and of those four, Vader is the one I have the most solid townread on behaviorally (that seems like a widely-held opinion), and I have decided to set Barney aside for the DP due to a gutread of the situation. That leaves you and Austin. I have more trouble with seeing Austin's choices so far as scummy, but I think he's the safer bet.