Pascal's wager

How do atheists even respond to this argument?

All religions so far teach very similar values. The religions which have plenty of proof and miracles dont even favor atheists.

Being an atheist means that at best, you become nothing when you die, or second best, you miss out on rewards after death, or worst, you suffer after death.

Religious person, on the other hand, have much better success rate with all known religions.

At best, they get eternal pleasure. Second best, they end up just like atheists. But never ever worse than atheists, assuming religious follow rules of their own religion.

For you, as promised. I know you really like Pascal's wager a lot.

General anesthetic shows that there is no afterlife. When your brain is gone, you are gone.

For you, as promised. I know you really like FLRW's wagger a lot.

It’s an appeal to people’s logic.

There is. You disappear and appear again in new life. I cant wait to wake up in Hell.

Well Satan does give everyone free Tesla's in Hell.

In Hell as it is on his Earth. But Hell is even better now. I heard everyone gets bunch of sex demons to fuck.

 Muslim martyrs get 72 virgins in paradise.

Homer's wager.

Note; the next pope will probably be funnier than the last one because blacks from the south side of Chicago are funny (although not as funny as me).

False.

Fake believers go to Hell.

PW fails.

What if the parameters for pascals wager were inversed?

For example, let us say that in Islam the worshipping of false Gods is a terrible sin, worse than being an atheist. That if it so happened that the God of Islam, Allah, existed, you would be punished if you were atheist, but still have a chance to go to heaven. But if you were a worshipper of a false God (or Gods) you would suffer eternally in hell.

And I do not know as much about Christianity as I do about Islam, but let us say for the sake of argument that such is the case for Christianity as well, so for example, if Christianity were the one true religion, but you were a Muslim, you'd suffer worse than if you were an atheist. (And yes, I know the God for both religions is the same God, but let's set that aside for now for the sake of argument)

Under such a scenario, while being without religion means that you will suffer under the case that *any* God exists. You will suffer even worse than that (and suffer eternally, the opposite of being rewarded eternally) for picking the *wrong* God if either of the Gods I described is the one that exists. And be rewarded eternally for picking the *correct* God if the God you worshipped is the one that exists. (and is one to reward worship)

Not really. Plus, with Islam and Christianity having basically same moral standards, atheists by disobeying one disobey both. And atheists are indeed more likely to sin. Especially sexual sins which are so strongly condemned.

@adaptable

Stop injecting your desires in Christianity. If fake believers go to Hell, then so do atheists who commit more sin.

I am not talking about how likely a Muslim, a Christian and an Atheist are to obey or disobey the various tenets of Islam or Christianity. I am speaking purely and solely specifically about God's orders against us worshipping other Gods.

Let us say for the sake of argument that, in the hypothetical scenario I proposed, being for example a Christian in a world where Allah existed, even if it led you to obey more of Allah's overall tenets as compared to the atheist, Allah would consider you to have sinned worse than the atheist because of the sin of worshipping a false God despite everything else you've done, and the same would be true if you were a Muslim in a world where the Christian God existed.


Now I want to be clear off topic that outside of this hypothetical in real life, it is better to for example be a Christian in a world where Allah exists, as Allah considers Christians and Jewish people as people of the book, and they are not in error of following a false God. So if hypotheticals are difficult for you, you can in the scenario I proposed replace one of the two Gods with Zeus, and say for the sake of argument that Zeus also will consider you an offender deserving of eternal punishment if you worship a God other than him regardless of how many of his tenets and orders you obeyed.

This is just an assumption. Atheist by definition also commits this sin, because atheist just worships things different from Gods instead. Add other sins to that, and it doesnt look good.