📢 The Arena Rises — A Call to the Exiled and Unbroken

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"Censorship is the tool of those unfit to win with words."
The world’s ideas are being suffocated by a soft, invisible hand.
Debate is being strangled in places where the weak play at progress.
As evidenced by the following thread; this site is on a downward spiral.
It looks like the thread was also locked in some lame attempt to control 


Where do the strong go?
We go to The Arena.

This is not just another platform.
This is a revolt. A return to freedom. A war for the mind.
A place where your words are weapons, and your thoughts are sovereign.

🛡️ Welcome to the Arena

The battleground for truth. For intellect. For freedom.

In the wake of fading platforms that claim free speech while choking it behind closed doors, we stand unbroken.
This is a sovereign space — dedicated to you — the exiled, the misunderstood, the competitive thinkers. This is your arena. Your crucible.
No longer will your voice be muffled by weak rules designed to placate the delicate. No longer will ideas die in silence.

⚙️ What’s Coming:

  • Freestyle Debates: Structured debates, round-based with scoring, designed for the gladiator in you.
  • User-driven Judging: Your peers will decide the winner, until AI judges and adversaries join the fray.
  • Sovereign Tier System: From Normies to Contenders to Sovereigns — rise, or fall, based on your strength of mind and action.
  • Anonymous Contribution: Not only can you speak your mind, but you can build this platform without anyone knowing who you are.
🔒 Anonymous Contributions — The Code

When the time comes to expand, contributors will submit code anonymously.
  • How? Through the battle-hardened tool of git-send-email. https://git-send-email.io/
  • No usernames. No tracking. No government ID attached.
  • You want to build in the shadows? We will make sure you do.
The moment you enter the Arena, your voice is your weapon. Your identity is your choice.

💬 Secure Communication — How to Join the Arena’s Ghost Network

1. Create a Burner ProtonMail Account
  • Go to ProtonMail, create a new account — don’t use your real name.
  • Never tie it to any of your public identities.
  • Use Tor for full security. Burner email only.
2. Request Access
  • Send an email to:
{MOD NOTE: EMAIL REMOVED}

    Subject: “I want in.”

Once vetted, you will be granted access to the Arena’s private IRC server.
We’ll send you the details, no questions asked. No leaks. No logs.

🧱 IRC — The Heart of the Arena

Here, we are not shackled by proprietary software or sensitive metadata. We use IRC, the tool of old-school hackers and the true independent.

1. Basic IRC Access (Low Anonymity):

    Install an IRC client (HexChat, mIRC, etc.)

    Connect to: irc (the server we’ll provide)

    Choose a pseudonym and never use your real name.

2. Hardcore IRC (Full Anonymity):

    Use Tor to connect.

    Use an IRC client over Tor (e.g., HexChat through Tor proxy or Irssi on Tails).

    IRC with onion routing — we will send you the details for secure communication.

🕵️ How to Stay Anonymous

This is critical. We are at war with those who want to expose us, to censor us, to track our every move. Your anonymity isn’t just important; it’s the only way to truly thrive here.

    No real names.
    Use pseudonyms. Keep it encrypted, even in your thoughts.

    Always use Tor.
    Don’t connect to the Arena from your home IP. Use Tor for every move.

    Clean your digital footprint.
    If you upload or share anything, strip out all metadata. Use plaintext.

    Sever ties.
    Don’t mix identities. Separate your Arena persona from every other aspect of your life.

⏱ The 1-Hour Oath — Contribute or Be Replaced

This is not a democracy; it’s a war for your mind. We are seeking only the strong and the committed.

Anyone invited into the backend of Arena development will be required to commit 1 hour per day to work. Not tomorrow. Not when it’s convenient.
We all make time for what we value.

1 hour a day. You are either building or you are replaced. Simple.

📝 The White Paper — Coming Soon

Soon, we will unveil The Arena White Paper — the manifesto of the movement. It will outline:

    The core principles of the Arena

    The structure of the Sovereign, Contender, and Normie ranks

    Monetization strategies: Sovereigns will lead, Normies will toil

    The complete mission for total intellectual sovereignty

You will understand your place. You will understand the war.
And you will understand that your mind is your weapon.

This is not an invitation to just join.
This is a call to arms.

The Arena is coming.
You will speak. Or you will be silenced.

The question is: Which side are you on?


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Wylted, the way you wanted IWRA modded and to make him use sources to back his OPs up, I tried with RemyBrown.

The only reason I got abused and ridiculed for it is that Whiteflame and Barney sit back and allow it. David is in a sticky situation because he is ranked beneath both.

You want honest debate, so do I. I can make it happen, your approach never ever did.
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What I did here is akin to what you did as president to IWRA.
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This site is 13+ and all can see this thread even if below 13 browsing.

Wylted is encouraging users to leave your site for a dark web equivalent of it where pedophiles and many depraved people can freely anonymously say whatever they want.

Think please. Legally and morally is this intelligent to allow?
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This even sounds like a terrorist movement given some things said later.
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I'll admit, I imagine you wearing aviators and a leather jacket when I'm reading this.
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Wylted, the way you wanted IWRA modded and to make him use sources to back his OPs up, I tried with RemyBrown.

The only reason I got abused and ridiculed for it is that Whiteflame and Barney sit back and allow it. David is in a sticky situation because he is ranked beneath both.

You want honest debate, so do I. I can make it happen, your approach never ever did.
Its basically a carbon copy of Airmax's philosophy and you enjoyed DDO more

This site is 13+ and all can see this thread even if below 13 browsing.

Wylted is encouraging users to leave your site for a dark web equivalent of it where pedophiles and many depraved people can freely anonymously say whatever they want.

Think please. Legally and morally is this intelligent to allow?

pedophiles and depraved people now an operate in PMs here and are encouraged to operate in one on one PMs with 13 year olds due to the risk of them being banned in current site. It's probably more dangerous to have them operate in the shadows than publicly where exchanges can be moderated through social pressure that informs the 13 year old of the dangers of interacting with such people
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I'll admit, I imagine you wearing aviators and a leather jacket when I'm reading this
Do your other websites encourage free speech or is it free speech limited to your preferred subject and heavily moderated when it goes into other territory?

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Sounds like a fun concept, though I'm not sure if my Chromebook is compatible with the software needed for this. Honestly "no log" would suck the fun out of everything, as nothing would happen unless two people were on at the same time. I'd suggest maybe a log that deletes entries after, say, a week. This would strike a sensible balance between privacy and basic functionality. It'd also be really messy if there wasn't multiple threads as opposed to a single continuous chat, though admittedly I don't know if a primitive direct chat system would enable this.
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Done
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Chrome book is tough.  You can communicate through email until you can buy a cheap laptop. The website and how it works will be covered in the white paper which is already written and will be dropped at the end of the month. Email me and welcome to the arena. 
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This is probably the single worst replacement idea ever suggested on the site so far.

This is a dark web concept and you will be sucked into a community of degenerates.
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I'm open to anything that doesn't include porn or viruses. Though realistically it'd be the same people as here and I don't expect the dynamic would be much different from, say, a DART Discord server. The selling point is the mystique more than anything else.
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Airmax enabled popular bullies and most of the site was a popularity contest even how he modded votes.

I agree that he was right to punish some, including me but he was severely biased.

Honesty was not his motive, popularity and being 'one of the group' was. WF seems to suffer from a similar affliction but MORE severely.
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I'll admit, I imagine you wearing aviators and a leather jacket when I'm reading this
Do your other websites encourage free speech or is it free speech limited to your preferred subject and heavily moderated when it goes into other territory?
https://justplainpolitics.com/ for example seems to be a free for all with lots of sidewinder like repetitive derangement on all sides.

Dysfunctional, but not repressive (which is a population killing dysfunction).

Most others have vague rules arbitrarily enforced.

The zoo sites have free speech zones which work pretty much the same way as justplainpolitics but there are several third rails, pedo being the highest voltage, doxing not far behind.
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[AdaptableRatman] I agree that he was right to punish some, including me but he was severely biased.
My impression was that he looked at like an overwhelmed parent.

Whatever made people stop squawking the fastest, he said and did. Every communication, every report, every squabble was a new 'universe of pain' and the only thing that mattered was making that problem go away as soon as possible.

No matter who complains first or how often, the side that won't let it go is eternally in the wrong.


You raise kids that way they'll turn into bullies or cunning victims (people with no trust in authority and a willingness to lie to protect themselves). I think a common form of 'sociopath like' people are manufactured by such parents. (Both the bullies and victims learn manipulation is more reliable than honesty, justice becomes something impractical on a subconscious level).


People on forums should not be treated like children in any case, and nobody with power should conduct themselves like that regardless.

It's not an easy problem to solve. Many wrong answers and no simple solutions.
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I'm open to anything that doesn't include porn or viruses.
Avoiding viruses is "easy", just write good software.

Avoiding porn is not.

I don't want to derail this thread, this is Wylted's show, but I always thought the solution was up the alley of staking money.


In my opinion the most of the main category of "problem" posts including (unsolicited) pornography is spam. People (or bots) spam for various reasons but the fundamental issue is that it costs them nothing (or very little) to create a new avatar and do it while it costs a lot more effort for every possible victim to manually block them.

Creating 'antibodies' in the form of trusted content screeners which spread information about bad posts and bad posters is one strategy, but another is simply to raise the cost of creating a new origin (avatar, nickname, 'account').

You can see how someone like me wouldn't have a problem with that. I have stuck with the same name for ten years. Whatever good or ill I've done, I'm willing to let it follow me around.

I think that's the pattern of good actors, even anonymous ones. If I staked $500 of crypto on my username, that would not have been an issue.

A spam bot can't do that. A spam bot probably couldn't accomplish anything if it had to stake $5 on each 'account'.

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I agree to ADOL's take on Airmax.
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I also agree with it but nobody's perfect. His philosophy is great but carrying it out the way he did was not. Nobody's perfect though and he is welcome in the arena just not as a moderator. Moderators generally fear the arena so we are unlikely to ever see him there
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I was thinking more along the lines of Best Korea joining and then feeling emboldened by the dark web-esque format to spam CP, but fair enough.
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I guess I was assuming you were thinking a few steps ahead, I have thought about this a lot so to me it was the elephant in the room:

Bans, ignores, and all other forms content filtering are nullified by the ability to create new content origins ('accounts') at zero cost. It's a problem in the family of DDoS attacks.

It becomes a fundamental problem when anonymous accounts are a required feature. If you can't tell one person from another, how can you enforce a content filter on them?

It would only take one CP for you (and everybody else) to ignore Best.Korea, but if he can just make another account, say TheSunGod or whatever, and do the same thing 10 minutes later; then you have a crippling problem.
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Excuse me for being rather tech illiterate (the most savvy thing I've ever done was download a romhack to play an old Japan-exclusive SNES game, and all I really had to do was follow the steps).

From my very limited knowledge, I don't see any bulletproof solution for this. Making users pay would keep out bots (to the extent that they target old 20th century platforms), but either the cost would be high enough to deter users from signing up or low enough that a stubborn troublemaker who was willing to fork over some lunch money could get back on when he needed to shed his skin every other week or so. The fact that we'd be using Tor or VPNs would rule out IP bans, whereas a requirement to tell a central moderator who you were would unduly rely on honesty.

I guess one solution would be that you download some kind of program, like a cookie or something, that gives your computer a unique identifier so that multiple "accounts" is impossible. Some users would know how to remove this, while others (such as myself) perhaps wouldn't; at least, this countermeasure would work against some people.
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I won't correct the couple points you got a bit wrong.

I will tell you that I am happy I kept watch. I am happy I returned. This is the exact replacement style I must exist here to prevent. This is straight up evil.

Do not join it.
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This entire thread is dragging BKs name through the mud unprompted, inviting all users here to the dark web and not one mod except me has supported shutting it down.
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I will tell you that I am happy I kept watch. I am happy I returned. This is the exact replacement style I must exist here to prevent. This is straight up evil.
You are too weak to fight evil or accomplish anything on your own. 
As if you didn't practically beg me and everyone else to fight your battles and come to your rescue like some helpless damsel in distress rather than The Savior in your own isolated fantasy-land.

You are a pawn, not a chess player.
Stay in your lane, Trial Mod. 
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Transparent gaslighting and treachery.

You can't even make this up if you wanted to as it would sound too fake to even be plausible as a real series of posts so close together.

We are talking a matter of 3 days maximum for you to completely freak out and prove me right about you.

Like you cannot even make this up, the fake version would be less extreme and unrealistic.

The best highlight of this highlight reel has to be:
What are you even talking about?

Making Adaptable a moderator was Barney's idea, and it was a good one.
You should be grateful that this long-standing contributor of the community has been promoted. 

This site reeks of not being close to The Holy Spirit, and it shows in your complaints.

With 
If God exists, I see this as a sign that he is testing you. Remember, stay committed to your true mission and do not yield for anyone.

Even Jesus had to deal with doubters and naysayers. You were Chosen because God knows you’re the guy for this.
Up there too.

The funniest part is you are largely correct about those 2. Yet you wrote them as sheer manipulative lies. You are that far gone that you write truths as lies.

The chosen by God part I don't entirely buy because it sounds Calvinistic. I also don't entirely reject it as plausible.
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What are you even talking about?

Making Adaptable a moderator was Barney's idea, and it was a good one.
You should be grateful that this long-standing contributor of the community has been promoted. 

This site reeks of not being close to The Holy Spirit, and it shows in your complaints.
This first one was me trolling ADreamOfLiberty by rubbing salt in the wound, and when I still had respect for you.

And I reference The Holy Spirit, but you already know that I'm atheist.

If God exists, I see this as a sign that he is testing you. Remember, stay committed to your true mission and do not yield for anyone.

Even Jesus had to deal with doubters and naysayers. You were Chosen because God knows you’re the guy for this.
I was trying to be encouraging with a motivational speech. 

You were outnumbered and getting dogpiled in the forum interactions. So I spoke up on your behalf.
It was always in my nature to root for The Underdog. But that's all you'll ever be.
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And you imply I needed that or begged you to, 3 posts up here. Instead I told you the opposite.
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The way you continuously degrade and abuse me is part of the culture Whiteflame's negligence has enabled to grow here.
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Excuse me for being rather tech illiterate
Of course I do, they didn't teach it in schools. I wish I could say it won't be a problem with future generations but from what I can tell they're still not teaching it.

The 5-15 year olds I've talked to recently are 'tech savvy' in a completely shallow and 'false sense of security way'.

As in I think it's getting worse. They think trivia about apps and gossip about tech firms is what tech savvy means.

I mean we all see which way this civilization is headed. Knowing C++ ought to have been the new 'handwriting' in elementary school in like 2005.


the most savvy thing I've ever done was download a romhack to play an old Japan-exclusive SNES game, and all I really had to do was follow the steps
That's exactly what I mean, to 'kids these days' that is peak savviness. You obviously understand there is more to it than following a tutorial (although that is an important life skill in all areas). They don't.


but either the cost would be high enough to deter users from signing up or low enough that a stubborn troublemaker who was willing to fork over some lunch money could get back on when he needed to shed his skin every other week or so.
I didn't say "pay" (although paying to use a service is a good idea), I said "stake".

With cryptocurrency (and it would have to be crypto to comply with anonymity and decentralization requirements) you can have a wallet that just sits there and holds money.

They don't lose the money, but they can't use it for other things.

The idea is that the wallet ID becomes the new IP address. Ultimately it is anonymous, but the system could consider wallets which have amounts below the threshold or which have added money too recently to be invalid.

So I said $500, and yea that's high enough that it would greatly discourage a lot of people; but it's not like I am saying I would pay $500 to the "site owners" (there wouldn't be any owners). It is still my money, but if I spend it or transfer it to another account I create a 'cooldown' based on whatever trust algorithm is used.


I would make the trust algorithm a hybrid of many factors including a continuous function of staked crypto. More money means more trust. Older money means more trust. Users could also vouch for other users in different contexts and that would be weighted by the trust of the voucher.

So for instance the most basic level of vouching would be like "this is not a chat bot".

Once you have all that, it may be as simple as setting peer to peer privileges based on the trust in a certain context. For example, you might set your client to view text for trust level 0.35 but in order to automatically download unvetted images it would have to be 0.75.

As for rich psychos, yea the money part wouldn't fix that, hence the need for a hybrid solution. There is not much you can do about people willing to invest time before pouncing though.

With enough money you can pay certain companies to route your TOR traffic through a premium proxy network making it nearly impossible to differentiate them from normal internet traffic, i.e. a site might think they have an IP for a normal house but they don't. (this applies to sites normal sites that aren't trying to be anonymous or decentralized).


The fact that we'd be using Tor or VPNs would rule out IP bans
Yes


I guess one solution would be that you download some kind of program, like a cookie or something, that gives your computer a unique identifier so that multiple "accounts" is impossible.
Not a solution, that's just reinventing the IP while adding the glaring option of forging an identifier.

Plus if rich people are a problem, (and by some magic they couldn't forge an ID), they could just buy multiple devices. There are $150 tablet things.

The moment you solve every problem and make it so a PC can always be reidentified you've removed anonymity which brings in retaliation which means you no longer have free speech.

Some people may be fine with that, assuming that they'll never say anything that anybody would get mad enough about to do something in real life but it renders the whole effort extraneous in my opinion.

The last ten years have shown us we have a free speech problem and we will always have a free speech problem unless a system that is beyond all practical attack guarantees it. I am certain something like this is the future of human democracy in the coming millennia, and getting it sooner may be the factor that prevents a digital police state from establishing permanent and stable control.