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America might have better luck if The Presidents were around John F Kennedy’s age when he served his time as President.
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@Barney
It’s certainly possible. The method I’m using to determine the skill-gap hierarchy is the times I skimmed and voted through all of your guys’ debates. I’m not sure how reliable this is though.
What are your strongest beliefs currently?
Or areas of expertise you pride yourself on?
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I've given this some thought, and here is where I classify them currently. This list may be inaccurate. In which case, feel free to correct it with your own.
- whiteflame
- Blamonkey
- Barney
- Savant
- Wylted
To be completely honest. I am not sure who is the superior debater between Barney and Savant. As far as I am currently aware, neither one has lost a debate. And both seem to operate on an equal level and debate the same subjects, but on different sides.
Savant usually debates abortion and is capable of debating either side, but usually defends the position that abortion is immoral.
Barney always sticks to his position of pro-choice. It's difficult for me to compare these two, and I would have to see them debate against each other to realistically compare.
Between blamonkey and whiteflame, this same comparison is very tricky because it's very close. But I'd argue that whiteflame is slightly better enough for the distinction to be subtly obvious.
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@21Pilots
You are welcome here.
We're grateful you were able to learn from these forums and wish to stick around.
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@Swagnarok
Trueee.
It took some convincing to get Lemming to agree, I vouched for him to whiteflame.
Whiteflame is bringing it up with the other mods, I hope it gets approved.
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This is not a guarantee, but there is a strong chance Lemming will become a new moderator.
This is a great decision, and I know a lot of people support it.
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@Mharman
The core issue is this: The people are generally not paying attention. Even the greater engagement of late is just die hard radicals growing in number. If people are happy in 2028 they're going to give credit to Trump and they are very likely to go with whoever he endorses.
That could be true.
But there's a huge possibility that Mharman's suggestion would work. Ron Paul is very influential, using a tactic like Social Proof has the potentiality to turn the tide.
I suppose ADOL is right about the success of a plan like this would fail if MAGA's loyalty to Trump is irreversible.
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@DebateArt.com
@whiteflame
@LucyStarfire
Wylted use an AI software program known as Runway for the profile picture.
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@DebateArt.com
@Lashwnda
Mike, look who it is!
Its Wylted, he's back!
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@whiteflame
@Savant
@Lashwnda
Guys! Look who it is!
It's Wylted!!
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@whiteflame
@Lashwnda
Wylted. Someone mistook me for him, so he must be a real nigga.
whiteflame!
Look who it is, it's Wylted!
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@21Pilots
Is it alright if I add you to our server?
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@21Pilots
I agree with you on those choices too.
2 years ago, I actually made a suggestion proposal for people who would make great mods in the forums. Savant was one of them, I reached out to Lemming but he declined so I didn't add his name to the list.
How would you describe your moderating style?
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@21Pilots
I forgot to ask. What are your ideal qualities for a mod, if you made your own criteria?
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@IlDiavolo
Most successful self-sabotage ever.
Imagine being so proud to abuse your newfound power by persecuting innocent people and plotting a rebellion only to lose it.
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@Swagnarok
Alliances form and crash over differences all the time.
The mockery was the failed infiltration attempt to take the throne by overthrowing the hierarchy.
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@Swagnarok
We should be endorsing tyranny & authoritarianism under the guise of being a pseudo-christian.
Nothing screams site ideals like a Savior Complex, zealotry, and religious extremism.
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Gnostic Christianity, a term used to describe a diverse set of religious movements, centers around the belief in "gnosis," or special esoteric knowledge, as essential for salvation. Gnostic Christians often view the material world as corrupt or evil, contrasted with the spiritual realm, and believe that Jesus Christ came to earth to teach divine knowledge, not to die and redeem humanity.
Does it, in your opinion, fall into the category of absurdist thinking or does it have any practicality?
My current understanding is that most modern christians would see it as so distinct, that it could be declared a heresy. Baptists probably wouldn't see it as a separate segment or denomination like catholicism or nazarene, but an unnatural corruption and abomination of The Holy Bible.
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@Castin
Destiny was criticizing people like H3H3 and Hasan Piker for not remaining true to their beliefs.
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@Savant
Yes. That actually makes a lot of sense and puts things into perspective.
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@WyIted
you will be happy to know that the biggest promoters of democracy are really just fascists in sheeps clothes,
I have noticed this too.
A lot of the role models in the leftist/democrat community are pseudo-liberals or democrats. Grifters who don’t care for their beliefs, and don’t actually care about politics
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This is becoming increasingly common, with ex-leftists joining and identifying as right-wing. Destiny claims it is because the right plays the game politically while the left doesn’t.
The “playing politics” tactic is coalition-building. He explains that the right have a lower standard for entry, while the left are quick to socially exile or excommunicate someone whose values fall short.
Which is why their community may not recognize a former right-wing as one of their own because they are trying to maintain a certain level of purity. (This is what he means, even if he says he hates the word ‘purity.)
(Destiny is also a bad person that doesn’t deserve a platform, but that’s a different subject.)
But would you agree that Destiny’s take on this is accurate or inaccurate?
(Can’t find the video by googling the title, but it popped up the other day)
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@fauxlaw
Fauxlaw.
You are intelligent in many ways, and I was happy when I learned you wanted to work with us. David asked me if I was okay with you participating and I approved it.
It is a pleasure to have you on our Dev Team.
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@LucyStarfire
Hello Best.Korea.
How is the cat empire going?
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Yes, OP. You are correct.
This is actually a really excellent point.
It also ties back into how educators used to omit so much detail about Christopher Columbus
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What is the victim card?You are abusing me constantly across many threads like a freak stalker or something.
You tagged me here first, and I responded.
And you have a habit of following me into dms and spamming me, bitching about other people. Then you’re constantly tagging me in forums when you’re getting bullied, begging me to rescue you from FishChaser or Wylted.
If you can’t handle that same energy, then keep it to yourself
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Do you genuinely not see what a disgusting abuser you are? Like do you type all that stuff and feel good about yourself?This is the same abusive stuff you said before anyway, I already knew you were like this.
Just stop playing the victim. You played this card many times already and it's just too predictable at this point.
I tried being civil, but it was clearly one-sided.
You didn't have to badmouth me, you did that all on your own.
You didn't have to try to manipulate the mods and weaponize them as pawns in your stupid little game. You did that all on your own.
And Game Over.
So this will suffice for now.
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All you are in an insecure man trying so hard at degrading someone relentlesly after overly glorifying them.
No, I'm someone who gave you the benefit of the doubt after you apologized and begged for my forgiveness.
Now I'm seeing you much more clearly.: Weak, irrelevant, and useless.
You did do a great job at convincing me with this pseudo-religious schtick. But you yourself probably even realize that first impression was too good to be true.
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Fauxlaw would promote me in a heartbeat I am pretty sure we have a similar vision. He DMd me genuinely happy I was in charge.
He would come to his senses once he realized you do not have the capacity to enact change on a small or large scale.
Your failures as a trial mod demonstrate that people do not respect you or take you seriously.
You were chosen because you were the only available person left that actually cared, not because you're qualified or have good ideas.
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He also had every chance to explain why I am wrong. He cannot. It was an accurate thread constructively criticising his leadership style.
You criticize whiteflame for his passivity and being disinvolved.
Yet it stands that the very God you worship is exactly the same way.
How much genocide, violence, and atrocities are committed everyday under his watch where he does nothing?
And you, just like The Devil, plotted a similar failed rebellion. It is all parabolic in a way.
You are a self-contradicting hypocrite with double standards.
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@21Pilots
Was David, WhiteFlame, and Barney (and other moderators) finally decision fair? Ethical? For the best?Provide your answer with reasons below.Moderators can also debate
It was more than justified.
I encouraged whiteflame to be proactive about this and then I convinced the other mods to demod Adaptable when I spoke to them.
They made the right call.
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The ideal mod is both a mediator and a leader.
Whiteflame would be it, if he were stricter.
David might be it. Fauxlaw would make an excellent moderator.
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@Sidewalker
You have a valid point.
I am the only one that is unfazed by Adaptable's promotion to moderator.
I am the only one that is unfazed by Adaptable's promotion to moderator.
A lot of people are panicking, understandably, but I already know something that most people here probably don't know.
His attempts to establish any lasting changes will be unsuccessful, and so too will his reign. All of it will fall apart or self-destruct. This is a bet I would stake all my current Elo on.
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Big talk was yours from day 1 of me being promoted.You acted as if you were suddenly relevant here 😂
Relevance on a dying website is more important to you.
You are so forgettably insignificant that you could leave the site for another year and your name doesn’t get mentioned once.
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Furthermore, it tells me who actually has my back on the mod team.The results proved Barney wins that award. The problem is David has the stronger moral compass. David would and did push a ban on me even when he had no social motive to here. It was bad but as well as his Wylted ban proves to me he is immune to peer pressure and sheepthink enough to be the ideal leader for now.
Wrong on both counts.
If my intel is correct, you already lost Barney’s support. He regrets making you a mod.
If Vader were still here, and David hadn’t returned. You would be back where you belong.
Square one, rock bottom.
David is a little harder to convince and the only reason you haven’t been demoted.
But you’re hanging on by a loose thread, so I’d stop all this big talk if I were you.
Nearly everyone, including your closest allies, are against you.
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@Sidewalker
This promotion is a social experiment of what happens when you give power to unchecked ambition and pride.
It’s pathetic
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Yes you should already be banned.
Sidewalker was active, while you were gone for a year.
Fall back in line.
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The way you continuously degrade and abuse me is part of the culture Whiteflame's negligence has enabled to grow here.
There is no advantage for whiteflame in defending you, as you would take advantage of his generosity by stabbing him in the back anyway.
What's next, another failed rebellion?
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What are you even talking about?Making Adaptable a moderator was Barney's idea, and it was a good one.You should be grateful that this long-standing contributor of the community has been promoted.This site reeks of not being close to The Holy Spirit, and it shows in your complaints.
This first one was me trolling ADreamOfLiberty by rubbing salt in the wound, and when I still had respect for you.
And I reference The Holy Spirit, but you already know that I'm atheist.
If God exists, I see this as a sign that he is testing you. Remember, stay committed to your true mission and do not yield for anyone.Even Jesus had to deal with doubters and naysayers. You were Chosen because God knows you’re the guy for this.
I was trying to be encouraging with a motivational speech.
You were outnumbered and getting dogpiled in the forum interactions. So I spoke up on your behalf.
It was always in my nature to root for The Underdog. But that's all you'll ever be.
It was always in my nature to root for The Underdog. But that's all you'll ever be.
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I will tell you that I am happy I kept watch. I am happy I returned. This is the exact replacement style I must exist here to prevent. This is straight up evil.
You are too weak to fight evil or accomplish anything on your own.
As if you didn't practically beg me and everyone else to fight your battles and come to your rescue like some helpless damsel in distress rather than The Savior in your own isolated fantasy-land.
You are a pawn, not a chess player.
Stay in your lane, Trial Mod.
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@Mharman
That’s the sign of someone following the devil, but pretending to follow God.
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In time I trust you to realise we are thinking alike. I like that you'd be disloyal to me for morally correct reasons.That is exactly what I am doing with Whiteflame, who betrayed me first as others abused me.
You badmouthed me first when I stood by you. Not the other way around. Actions like that do not get rewarded.
But you got angry about Savant making a joke about you, so you ran from the server and threatened him with divine retribution.
You demand and expect loyalty, but don’t ever seem to give any in return.
It was through whiteflame’s generosity that you are even a moderator and then you suggest a revolt.
You are useless and pathetic.
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That is what snakes say though.Real friendship is based on honesty and love of virtue regardless of the flaws.Real friends don't pretend to be yes men. They don't pretend to be anything. That's why disagreement with real friends isn't back stabbing and they don't make a spectacle of it. You can see the difference a thousand miles away and you don't need to pretend to each other or to anyone else that you agree when you don't.
You’re reading too much into this.
I have been crystal clear that me and him were never “friends,” I have the receipts that I keep saying this.
Being civil does not mean I ever addressed him as friend. Our association was casual, even if I tried to be encouraging or supportive.
I tried to get FishChaser to leave him alone and stood by him while he was trolled or targeted by the rest of the site.
All of these were courtesies and gestures of good will, not requirements.
Some things we agree upon, some we don’t.
I’ve always been crystal clear about our differences.
It’s as simple as he had my respect, and now he doesn’t.
Nothing more, nothing less.
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Lowly henchman, dog on a leash blablablabla waaa aaa waaaa
Sounds accurate.
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The injustices and corruption of this website have grown unbearable.
As all of you are aware of my recent promotion to lowly henchman. You all have forced my hand in the matter, and justice is coming to all. Not just you.
I have now come up with the absurdly ridiculous plan of usurping whiteflame and replacing him with myself as the head of this website. We will need to get Mike's approval to get this going.
Savant since you have decided to openly ridicule me and my modship I quit this team. I will work with david if he is open to DM, he seems to set chat here so we cannot DM. I already am in a chat with him for not with other mods.
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You can say whatever you want, I am happy the real you is showing. Honesty is needed very badly here.
Don't worry, I'll show you mercy.
I'm done for now.
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No you didn't. You respected my position, not me. You tried to maintain the lie over DMs. You even posted this publicly to fake respect for me.
I don't respect anything about being a servant on a leash.
More of a follower, less of a leader.
The exact way you talk to me right now would be banned onnthe site model of justice that you said you wanted to ADOL.You are a hypocrite and a sycophant.
And you are an underling that forgot your place.
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