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@Bella3sp
@jamgiller
Okay. If Bella3sp agrees, you can create the challenge whenever you feel like it.
I will be pretty busy IRL, so you can request Savant to take my place as the Judge.
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@Best.Korea
Because even after trying to resolve things, this guy really can't keep my name out of his mouth.
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As for the 'beta male' remark, I'll bite. I know it's bait but I'll bite.I am more sigma male than alpha male if I need to ascribe to those labels. That said, a real alpha male needn't break others down to feel good about himself, he needn't use alts to abuse someone into losses, even if he got someone else to do it, while playing the victim the whole time. He also needn't offer a truce he has 0 intention to be true to or be a fake friend.A real 'alpha' is just up front and confident enough that he can take an L even against someone who in his own opinion votebombed him. You had 3-4 genuine Ls that you got others to 'save' you from, 3 were with explicit votebombs and that's only in the past month or whatever. You can't stand the exact aura you call 'beta' because it isn't and you resent how confident I am.
Ironically, I'm not too concerned about winning. The fact that I didn't bitch when you vote-bombed my debates is proof.
Of all the people I debated, you're the only one who got vote-bombed.
You can claim to be confident, except that you're the epitome of insecurity. That's why nobody likes you.
Not a coincidence.
I don't resent you for your confidence. If you were confident, you wouldn't act cocky and then have a melt-down whenever someone matches the same energy you give everyone else. If you weren't so spineless, people might actually respect you.
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Nothing here fixes the rating loss or the fact I feared engaging in further wins.I would be where Barney is I murked Lancelot 4 times and there is a fifth win robbed.
Nooo. You pretty much conceded most of your debates against me.
All those other times you lost to me is because you're quite literally that bad.
Every-time we've debated fairly, you lost.
So minus the vote-bombs, you're quite literally incapable of winning against me on your own.
Let's count the two debates that you conceded and kept your Elo rating because of the error in the coding. And then those other two times where you conceded, and Mike manually raised my rating for one of them. Those 3 other wins are mine, not yours. I received no Elo for them and I'm not bitching like you are now.
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Imagine vote-bombing and then crying you got vote-bombed. đ
The fact that you think I was involved with whatever happened to you is hilarious.
I'm not the only person who dislikes you, you're pretty much hated here and everywhere you go. So stop thinking I'm responsible every-time something doesn't go your way.
You decided to fuck around and you quickly found out.
Blame no one but yourself, you hypocritical bitch.
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Losing essentially 200 rating and being degraded verbally means I am the side of the war that is aggrieved and had to fight it.You were never ever wronged by me in any sort of unprovoked manner so naturally you can have the truce as you are the instigator and villain in every single sense.I lost rating, was too afraid to start rated debates due to it, was insulted and degraded months ago through to now by you first for being autistic and awkward and later for apparently being evil and some other shit, the whole time gaslighting me about it being abusive only in my head and framing me as the abuser.I am glad you agree to cease the BS but I am owed rating and an apology that someone of your psyche will never give either of despite all you did to me. The site owner is too lazy to tweak the wrongful losses and out me top 3 where I literally belong rn. The mods seem to be mechanically unable to.Now shut up and stay the absolute fuck away from me, lancey boy. Glad you learned to.
No, you fucking pussy.
You aren't the side that was wronged, even if you try to spin it that way. You're a timid little coward that requires the mods to defend you because you're incapable of protecting yourself every-time you start shit. The definition of a beta male.
I'm not a villain and you're not a victim. What you are is a self-loathing failure. I'd tell you to find something you're good at, but you suck at everything, so looks like that ship has sailed.
That's probably why you targeted Slainte. Because he and everyone else here detected your bitch vibes. You had it coming every-time I attacked you, so don't act like you're anyone special.
You're special, but you're not exceptional.
You've attempted to make claims about having a high IQ, but it's transparent to everyone here you're too intellectually impaired to be semi-competent at anything. If anyone was as cognitively underdeveloped as you, they might have self esteem issues too.
When you come to terms with reality, you'll realize you're just as worthless as everyone thinks you are.
It's cringey as fuck that you call yourself a rapper when your flow and rhymes are trash. Probably why the whole site laughs at you.
You are pretty good at slacking at and conceding debates because most subject matter is too complex for you.
Congrats!
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No point in trying to have a meaningful conversation with someone that stupid.
Rational frequently proves himself to be consistently pathetic every-time he makes one of these threads.
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@whiteflame
@Mps1213
@Bella3sp
@Savant
@jamgiller
Bella and jamgiller, which side do you guys prefer?
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The Finals have officially begun.
As it is the last stage of The Tournament and the other competitors have all went silent, they have officially dropped out of the competition.
Proceeding to the final round will be.: Bella3sp and jamgiller.
The resolution will be.:
- (TRT) Having a national DNA database is a useful tool for scientists and law enforcement and poses no significant privacy issues for citizens.
Response time can be extended to however long both participants need.
Both participants will have 24 hours to discuss who will be Pro or Con. If a decision cannot be reached within that time, the sides will be automatically assigned.
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Forgive him.
He's clearly not smart enough to do even basic research.
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I have had enough of your attitude. I tolerated it but it's now at a limit I either keep making myself unhappy or block you. You are berating me, ignoring what I say and asserting things without definitions, derailing the thread.
No, you just know nothing about the subject, so anyone with more knowledge than you comes across as condescending.
Stop being tone-deaf and educate yourself instead of choosing to be willfully ignorant.
Unless doing a simple Google Search is beyond your level of cognitive ability...
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@Savant
Rational conceded two debates to me already.
- Net Neutrality.
- Squid Game
But because of the error in the coding, I didn't get points for either of these victories. This post is a good idea to fight back against vote-bombing, but it assumes Rational is entitled to a free win when he himself has engaged in grudge-voting and vote-bombing.
Neither of us owe him shit.
If anything, the site owner Mike should be manually restoring his Elo Rating. Mike refusing is honestly beyond me and doesn't strike me as fair because Mike manually increased mine and Novice's rating when similar instances happened in the past. Why he can't do the same for RM is confusing.
The mods can't be held responsible because they can't do anything, but they at least have the moral obligation to speak up on RM's behalf and convince Mike to give him his rating back.
If RM is serious about getting his rating back, we should be rallying together with the mods to protest this to the site owner because he isn't being consistent.
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Greyparrot is just trolling.
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@Stephen
What excuses? They are not "excuses" they are REASONS, learn the fkn difference.If that bible ignorant clown makes a claim or statement where I can prove him wrong using his own words, I will do so. As I have done and multiple times too. This is why he blocked me in the end, I guess. He couldn't stand being reminded of his own bullshite, contradictions and outright pathological lies. I can assure you that the he bible dunce is not missed by me.
Yeah. Very lame reasons.
You cherry-pick excuses like christians do bible-verses. Honestly, it sounds like you have no real justification for targeting Tradesecret at all. Your characterization and dislike for him seems to be based more on your differences in religious ideology, than anything he said to you personally.
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Nope. Not all Christians are  gasconading, hypocritical, contradictory compulsive pathological liars.
Really?
Name one christian from this site then.
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Then stop whining on his behalf. He does enough of that for himself although in the same sentence he says "its all water off a duck's back" to him.
Whining on his behalf would be me asking you to stop. I think you should keep trolling and goading him, but stop making lame excuses for it though.
Just say he's a Bible-Stupid Christian and you like clowning on Christians.
It's not that complicated.
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@Stephen
Lmao.
Stop hiding behind excuses for your relentless attacks on Tradesecret, one of the least problematic members in the religious community.
You just described the typical christian. I couldn't care less if you want to troll said person or remind them of their lies, but quit acting like they're this evil person.
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@TWS1405_2
I wholeheartedly agree!!!!As I see it now, knowing the behavior and attitude of the four mentioned, there will most certainly be some inequitable treatment of some members, me included.Â
Actually, you should reconsider this point as you might find yourself siding with me on this once we discuss why.
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@RationalMadman
I'm sure you won't find the terms of this truce unreasonable.
Since you tend to be fairly straightforward and direct, I'll just be blunt without the rudeness as you might appreciate this style of communication.
Let's be clear about what it is I am not doing.: I am not trying to make amends, I am not trying to apologize to you, I am not seeking your trust, or your forgiveness. I feel no remorse for how I treated you and I meant every word I said.
Admitting that my own actions are what got me banned doesn't mean I feel guilty, just that I'm at fault for what happened. I broke the rules and I was punished, simple as that. The vote-bombing is a separate issue and it's neither my fault nor my problem. It's not something I arranged.
The truce doesn't require us to be friends or allies. We can hate each other and still tolerate each other. It is only a mutual agreement to be civil.
Literally that simple.
I don't care about being banned, I made that pretty clear 2 weeks ago. If I wanted to continue being hostile when I returned, I would've just kept shit-talking and bullying you.
I've simply moved on from this feud honestly. It's boring and pointless. We can perpetuate it as long as you want to, but I really have no intention or desire of doing so.
I mean I get that you're probably frothing at the mouth wanting to shit-talk me, but seriously ask yourself if you find this drama as cringey and lame as I do.
I may have started a lot of this shit, but I'm calling it off now.
It's over.
I will not acknowledge you, I will not respond to you, I will not even type your name. There will be no debates between us.
Until this concept is crystal clear to you, then you can fight your one-sided war against me and deal with your misery and self-dissatisfaction alone.
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@RationalMadman
Knowing how much you missed me, you were probably grateful it was only a 2 week vacation.
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@n8nrgim
I certainly think that's an interesting position.
But I'm not sure any activity is good activity. If we assume Mike's intent is to grow the site, then banning racial slurs would have to be enforceable, me thinks.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I'm not here to convince you of anything, except that not making these four moderators is a missed opportunity.
Speculation about the details regarding my ban are pointless, as the evidence is your word versus mine.
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So it was the safest and most secure debate poll in history? That's good :pStrange how you expect others to look into issues deeper and not simply declare "that's all you need to know about him", but don't act that way yourself.
I have no such expectations.
If people wish to investigate, I simply explain how it can be done, but it's not a requirement.
But you asked a specific question, so you got a specific answer. If you want more info, you need to ask for more info.
It seems fairly clear that if the site owner wanted mods to be selected by vote he would have mods selected by vote. This "fake it till you make it" stuff is unlikely to convince him.You listed four people, that's like a third of the active user base.
The site owner regularly requests feedback, so it's not entirely pointless to make suggestions.
Whether he takes the advice is up to him.
Maybe before you go creating a police force you should fix the problem that the law book is unclear, then mods would have less room for inequitable treatment and more protection from criticism.
One step at a time.
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@Best.Korea
I have a different position for him in mind that he'd be open to.
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Weren't you thrown out for a conspiracy to cheat the debate poll?
No, that was a frame-job committed by the person who got me banned.
Why are you talking about security and stability? Role playing as the deep state?
There is corruption in the deep state. To fight it, we need to reform it.
Reforming involves making said individuals of the thread mods.
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There aren't enough active mods to address the frequent violations of rule-breaking. As it currently stands, too many individuals are getting away with abusing the CoC, The New Enforcement hasn't shown to be effective.
Since security is understaffed, we should start bringing some more onto the Task Force. Everyone of these individuals have given permission to be named in this thread, the others have chosen to not be included and remain anonymous.
Here are all of the people that should be promoted to moderator.:
- Savant
- SkepticalOne
- Athias
- greyparrot
Let's bring back security and stability to DART.
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@SkepticalOne
@AustinL0926
@Savant
@TheApprentice
Special thanks to Savant for taking my place as host.
The starting time for The Finals has been postponed to give the other competitors a chance to catch up.
The bonus debate is still on the table for those whose points are still falling behind. Please tag me in this thread if you're still interested in The Tournament and would like to do a bonus debate.
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@Savant
You're in my discord server, so if you have any questions. Feel free to ask me there.
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@Bella3sp
@Devon
@jamgiller
Slainte has officially resigned from the Tournament.
So I am instituting the command that Savant has full control over The Tournament for now.
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@Savant
My account is going to be banned for two weeks.
As co-host, Savant will be temporarily taking over the Tournaments for now until I return.
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Just another coincidence eh? Nothing to do with you or something you arranged is it?Funny.
RM. Please don't start.
I'm not interested.
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@jamgiller
That's fine.
I can extend the deadline to a later date.
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Because Mike's objective is to stifle the site's potential.
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You didn't check with me on my mental health before telling me I was an autistic incel loser that nobody likes here who should kill himself. You didn't check my mental health before arranging votebombs against me with noobs and gaslighting me about it.
You challenged me to a rap battle.
So I did it your way. It was No-Hold's Barred. Nothing that was said was off-limits. But for the record, I never told you to kill yourself. That was never an implication.
Not even in the battle itself.
It was no different from you calling Wylted overweight, making fun of him for being suicidal, and teasing him for his stutter/disability in your rap battle. (Things you all claimed to be true.)Â
I mean really, read your Round 1 Rap Battle with Wylted. ^^
Don't tell me that was out of context. You were making a reference to this.: https://www.debateart.com/debates/244-the-user-known-as-wylted-should-commit-suicide
I never arranged vote-bombs against you, but you did grudge-vote against me multiple times under the assumption you were being vote-bombed.
- First you declare war.
- Seconds later, you vote against me. Can't be a coincidence. Bear in mind, you did this separately on several debates.
You didn't check with me on my mental health before calling me low IQ ridiculing me that I am autistic but lack the savant part and am just a loser and idiot.
You were quite literally attacking Nyxified over her gender identity and derailing a thread.
It's not a coincidence that Nyx herself agreed with me that you attacked her.
You were also being condescending and talking down to Bella3sp in that same thread.: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9503-debate-with-nyxified-over-transgender-identity?page=3&post_number=73
Interesting.What about your vicious and relentless attacks on me?
Oh, you've attacked me plenty too.
Let's not get carried away with this victim schtick. The mods can only buy it for so long.
And as I've previously stated. The attacks between you and I should stay between you and I.
There was no need for you to target Slainte specifically and isolate him by making him your punching bag.
I wasn't a fan of Slainte, however I'd like to note that if someone's mental health is at risk, making a spectacle of their leaving if they themselves didn't explicitly ask for it is actually toxic for them. Some people don't want a spectacle made of their exit here.
So is harassing him days on end just because you don't like me.
You are the problem with this website to a large degree, Lancelot but you just don't get it. You are the one who goes around aggravating and trolling people off of here from Tigerlord through to Badger, through to me. You charm people as it suits you to have a 'gang' to back you up, that's how tactical you are about your abuse, what you didn't count on was that being a sycophant to the mods doesn't work here how it may on some other websites. They don't really care that I'm socially awkward and perhaps even a douchebag at times, they will still protect me if you violate the rules to abuse me. That was what you didn't count on and I appreciate their help.
I believe I've already stated that I'm on good terms with nearly everyone here, including Tigerlord.
My initial beef with Tigerlord was just that, temporary. And it started because he was quite literally attacking Slainte for no reason. Lol.
But we made up and we're practically buddies now.
I don't like badger and he doesn't like me, but that's a mutual feeling. It's nothing personal.
But in a few days to a couple of weeks, when I get the screenshots of the persistent abusive messages and comments you left Slainte.
I can't say it will look good for you.
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God utilized the creation of the Earth through pre-existing matter. Jesus was technically the one who created the Earth, but it was under God's command and supervision.
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Andrew Tate has always been his worst enemy.
I've never had any real objection to him, despite his over-acted hyper-masculine schtick. But his attacks on the media, fights with people, and call-outs of certain celebrities were his undoing.
I believe he admitted to trafficking several times in his old podcasts.
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I have done a lot of good things for people's mental health on and off here, good old buddy. Can even name a user here I've helped recently but won't.You go around believing what you want about me.As for 'evil' I can quote what you told me in the rap battle and outside of it. I can explain what you did recently to trigger me and make my experience here agonising and laughing at my misery. I can point out how your profile pics the past 2 times have revolved around countering one I picked but I will just hint at it as I have done and let others make their mind up.In the meantime I will @ the mods as you have attacked me yet again. I would recommend you to get help as well, I wonder why you need to attack me so hard rather than defend or compliment Slainte, manners are not morals. I put some gif of two fingers from Eminem in a gif and I'm oh so evil and disgusting. What you're mad about is the fact that you tried to make my life hell here, bullying me both verbally and via corrupting the voting system, revelling in my agony and suddenly things are closing in on you because you thought the mods wouldn't protect me at all.I suggest not to bark louder than you bite, Sir.
Your vicious and relentless attacks on Slainte are why we're even at this point, and now you're gloating.
If you've got a problem with me, then target me.
If our beef leads to me being banned, I couldn't care less.
There was no need for you to harass and antagonize Slainte.
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Like I don't even care that you're going to retaliate against me after reading this and grudge-vote my debates so that I lose.
You just prove my point.
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Honestly, RationalMadman.
You truly are an evil person that is beyond saving.
Delighting in other people's misery and mocking them when they're in a bad place just truly shows how far gone you are.
It is incredible how far you were willing to go into bullying Slainte into leaving the site, as well as pushing Devon into breaking down and having an episode just because you don't like me.
I would encourage you to genuinely seek help, but I don't believe there is a way of stopping your cycle of toxicity even if you were aware of the harm you're inflicting.
Like I cannot believe this. At first, I thought you were pathetic. Now I genuinely think you're disgusting.
How inhuman do you have to be to prioritize your Elo Rating over someone's mental health?
You're making fun of him just because he voted against you one time.
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@Slainte
Hopefully, you're still here to read this.
Will be the last time I tag you and then the ball is in your court.
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@Mps1213
@Bella3sp
@Savant
@Devon
In-case you guys are interested
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One of our contributors who helped DART through voting and creating debates is now officially leaving the site for good.
His name is Slainte.
Please use this thread to say your goodbyes and express appreciation.
I'll formally announce his resignation from The Tournament within a week in-case he changes his mind.
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@jamgiller
Okay.
Create an open challenge with any of the Tournament judges you choose and anyone random can accept.
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So you copied my thread but removed voters from the equation.
Honestly, if you're going to accuse me of copying your thread.
Please consider the purpose of your forum post was something I came up with months ago as the main theme for my Tournament.
Not yours.
Default categories for this debate will be Politics, Science, History, Religion, Sociology, Fiction, Pop Culture. (Possibly more.) But where this tournament differs from the rest is that topics/subjects will be personalized to match each competitorsâ strengths in order to ensure they are operating under the best circumstances possible. (Like an algorithm.)
Additionally, type which categories are your favorite (or youâre best at.) if you decide.Sign-ups continue until we get 10 participants and will run until next Tuesday. Extended, if necessary.
If anything, you liked it so much that you ripped off my idea.
4) You state whether your intent is to debate it, which side you prefer to debate and/or whether you want to vote on it. If you would only debate/vote if it's within a certain range of characters or time-away-from now, feel free to specify that.This is a very obvious solution I am sure many regular debaters and voters have thought 'should' exist but didn't really make happen yet. I am not some 'genius' for this, it is just going to become an official thread where willing and eager voters meet willing and eager debaters so that debaters can engage on topics at times when the voters interested in those topics are available to vote, without needing it to be 'judge debate' format that has to be unrated or any other such complication.
I'm assuming you included the part that you're "not a genius" as a way to undermine your deceptiveness by making it seem like everyone else's idea, so you couldn't be accused of what you really did, plagiarizing my Tournament Origin.
Not that I care particularly. More power to you for pulling off such a bold and daring power-move.
However, I cannot applaud your dishonesty and lack of integrity.
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@Bella3sp
Absolutely.
But only if it's Judicial Decision with the voters only being one or more of the Tournament-selected Judges.
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@SkepticalOne
So you can qualify in The Finals, I actually have an idea. Here is my advice.:
Create an open debate, but make it Standard.
Setup the following resolution this way.: TRT: There must be a separation of religion and state in all aspects of governance. (20 points. Max Time - 1 days - 1 week)
Make it 3 rounds and choose whichever of the following judges you decide upon.:
- whiteflame
- Lemming
- Greyparrot
- Mps1213
- DavidAZ
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@AustinL0926
@Bella3sp
@TheApprentice
@Devon
@jamgiller
The beginning of The Finals stage is approaching and currently, not enough people have the minimal points to enter. It is strongly recommended that each participant begins making their choice for the next topic.
Here are the points so far.:
- Bella3sp - 5 points.
Soon, either jamgiller or Slainte will take 15 points and be in the lead.
However, I shall present an opportunity for a bonus debate to qualify. Tag me if you wish to participate in the bonus debates.
But this means you forfeit your right to decide and I will choose the topic for you.
I'm reaching out to everyone, but including the following individuals who remain inactive.:
- AustinL
- YouFound_Lxam
- TheApprentice
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So you copied my thread but removed voters from the equation.
No, silly.
Stop derailing my thread by taking credit for my ideas.Â
That's so unoriginal.
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