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@Swagnarok
I dont care enough to inform you.
Trump Cancels Pride month.
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@LucyStarfire
Good, nobody cares. That was the intent.
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@Greyparrot
If person is incapable of informing himself, no one should even care to inform him.
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@LucyStarfire
Or care about what you think about informing.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
@LucyStarfire
In this case the only sexual orientation that isnt celebrated is heterosexual.No, it isn't.
Why?
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@Greyparrot
I just assume you are wrong now.
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@ultramaximus2
There are others that are not celebrated.In this case the only sexual orientation that isnt celebrated is heterosexual.No, it isn't.Why?
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@ultramaximus2
Before saying something, first use google or AI to tell you why is it stupid.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
There are others that are not celebrated.
Same question then with respect to them. Who would those be though? Asexuals? I can't imagine much.
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@ultramaximus2
There are others that are not celebrated.Same question then with respect to them. Who would those be though? Asexuals? I can't imagine much.
You asked 'why' and 'who', the question is 'what'.
Depends on how you differentiate a 'kink' or a 'fetish' from an 'orientation', but if
Sexual orientation = an enduring personal pattern of romantic attraction or sexual attraction
Then every class of object or person which anyone finds attractive is a category which defines a sexual orientation.
Then every class of object or person which anyone finds attractive is a category which defines a sexual orientation.
It's like celebrating "personality type A", vs B or C. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_A_and_Type_B_personality_theory
Those are generalizations, and there are potentially infinite ways to categorize personality.
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Asexuals would be an exception, the lack of orientation.
Categories which have a similar natural frequency as homosexuality or bisexuality (2-10%) would include:
Zoosexuality
Pedophilia
If one were to break down "heterosexual orientation" there are likely a dozen groupings at around 5% of the population with respect to different focuses. i.e. 'your type' (of ideal heterosexual partner).
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Pedophilia
That one is celebrated in Japan, on YouTube, on many social media too. Sure, not everyone celebrates it, but not everyone celebrates gays either.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Bestiality and pedophilia did cross my mind but these aren't generally regarded as sexual orientations AFAIK. Like, I read here:
Sexual orientation is an enduring personal pattern of romantic attraction or sexual attraction (or a combination of these) to persons of the opposite sex or gender, the same sex or gender, or to both sexes or more than one gender. Patterns are generally categorized under heterosexuality, homosexuality, and bisexuality,[1][2][3] while asexuality (experiencing no sexual attraction to others) is sometimes identified as the fourth category.[4][5]
These other things aren't about which gender you find attractive. They are related to sexuality I suppose but the exclusionary lines are a odd. Like, the gay pedophiles would be celebrated for being gay, not for being pedophiles while the heterosexual pedophiles are left out of the celebration. The issue and point of shame and stigma has to do with the pedophilia far more than the sexual orientation of it. Bestiality would have the same issue.
Issue with these groups is that while the sexual attraction itself is a benign it is when it's acted upon that it can be damaging, especially with the pedophiles because then the suffering is done to children rather than animals. It can be potentially dangerous to normalize these sort of sexual ideation because it may lead to increased offending. Though, if they just want to get off to comics or computer generated pornography or something, that seems pretty harmless to me.
Also you haven't answered the question. Why exclude heterosexuals from the celebration? Or asexuals?
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@ultramaximus2
Bestiality and pedophilia did cross my mind but these aren't generally regarded as sexual orientations AFAIK.
Yea, but that's because people are silently adding a moral modifier to the definition. i.e. Sexual orientation is sexual attraction but good (and definitely not bad)
These other things aren't about which gender you find attractive.
The world is more complicated than gender. "asexual" does not mean "not attracted to any gender" for example.
Coherent conceptual systems don't have arbitrary under-constraints, over-constraints, and exceptions.
"gender sexual orientation" would be the correct word for the measurement only of that particular variation, but even there you would probably find a bunch of people complaining because they insist gender and sex are different.
I deny that because I think they are redefining gender for subversive reasons, but certainly people ARE attracted to gendered behavior at different rates so it is perfectly reasonable to speak of subcategories of sexual orientation along those lines. For example:
"I like tomboys" does not mean "I like boys" or "I like girls who pretend to be boys" or "I like girls who identify as boys". It means you like girls who have personality traits and interests which are masculine (culturally associated with men).
There are men who like women who lean into feminine behavior and mannerisms. The same sort variety exists among fully heterosexual women.
Those who would redefine "gender roles" or "gendered behavior" as "gender" would say those are sexual orientations towards gender as opposed to sex.
They are related to sexuality
They are more than related, they are sexual orientations. They arise at the same time as all other sexual orientations (puberty), they can be suppressed but never erased, they exist in the subconscious and can be autonomically corroborated.
Like, the gay pedophiles would be celebrated for being gay, not for being pedophiles while the heterosexual pedophiles are left out of the celebration.
That's like saying bisexuals would be celebrated for being partly gay, but the other part is heterosexual and therefore not celebrated.
No, it's not so coherent. It's just a tribal feeling of belonging and revenge they're expressing. Often used as a bus for transgressives.
The issue and point of shame and stigma has to do with the pedophilia far more than the sexual orientation of it. Bestiality would have the same issue.
No that's the same, that's why they picked "pride" pride is the opposite of shame, they (pure homosexuals) were pained by shame and tried to cancel it with pride.
Unearned shame vs unearned pride.
Of course at some point, a point probably around the turn of the millennium, the net cultural opinion was firmly in "approval" and "sympathy" such that there really was no unearned shame or social stigmatization. Only celebration.
But the movement had created a culture and a culture propagates itself. That culture offered an identify around victim hood and such a thing does not die just because there are no more victims.
What they're role playing at pride parades is "I am not ashamed, suck it world!" but the world was saying "aren't you brave!" for decades.
It is the irony of the situation that those who are actually living out the oppression pride paraders role play are not allowed to parade. In all circumstances, if you can parade and be cheered, you are no longer a victim of unearned public condemnation.
Issue with these groups is that while the sexual attraction itself is a benign it is when it's acted upon that it can be damaging
That claim is besides the point.
Also you haven't answered the question. Why exclude heterosexuals from the celebration? Or asexuals?
You didn't actually ask that question, you made a statement that heterosexuals were the only exclusion.
Now that you ask, it is answered by my explanation above. It excludes heterosexuals because it is fundamentally a victimhood fantasy, not a celebration of sexuality. Heterosexuals (homospecial teleiophilic) aren't allowed because there is no victimhood history.
A general celebration of sexuality is a very common cultural phenomenon outside of the monotheistic dominated cultures. That is not what pride month was.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
It excludes heterosexuals because it is fundamentally a victimhood fantasy, not a celebration of sexuality. Heterosexuals (homospecial teleiophilic) aren't allowed because there is no victimhood history.
This is what is important here, I think. You know, overcoming the discriminatory history against the LGBTQ. Is this the way to go about doing it? Because pride is about saying that you're proud of something; That you think that you're better than others because of whatever. Why frame it that way? Equality should be the goal rather than superiority. Yet, people are always tempted by superiority. Perhaps that's the human condition and will never change.
Pride definition:
a feeling of deep pleasure or satisfaction derived from one's own achievements, the achievements of those with whom one is closely associated, or from qualities or possessions that are widely admired
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@Greyparrot
I’m genuinely reminded of when I did a survey on 4th trimester abortions, being crystal clear it was speaking of hunting down lame adults for an ultra late-term abortion…
A few people did get that it was a joke, but so many people wanted to be fooled.
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@ultramaximus2
You know, overcoming the discriminatory history against the LGBTQ
There is certainly some memorial going on, but it was a minor part and not the part people had issues with.
It was the constant push for expansion on the false premise that people were still being oppressed (which they are, just not the ones the cult are pointing to).
The 4th of July is a memorial about fighting for liberty, and some do connect it to an ongoing struggle; but if people kept pretending like Britain was still the source of the worlds problems I think that would be analogous to the out of control cult version of 'pride'.
Especially focusing on enemies rather than ideals.
Equality should be the goal
Liberty and justice should be the goal if you ask me.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
The 4th is an inclusive holiday. I dont have an issue with it. TBH I think the British monarchy does still create a lot of issues but it's a different subject. (eg "royal assent" is still required to pass legislation in the UK, Canada, Australia, etc., and the king is still commander in chief of the armed forces). Its not an American concern.
Liberty and justice. Liberty yes. Justice yes. Problem with justice these days is people tend to disagree about what is justice and what isnt. The whole "equity" thing turns into identity based grievances and spurious notions of collective responsibility.
“Well, we all are going to die.”
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@ultramaximus2
Problem with justice these days is people tend to disagree about what is justice and what isnt.
An a very old problem that one.
They also disagree about what liberty and equality means.
These are all related concepts but very few people derive them logically from first principles, hence the widespread disagreement.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
They also disagree about what liberty and equality means.
I dont believe in any liberty, except my own.
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@LucyStarfire
Many people feel that way, few admit it.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Many people feel that way, few admit it.
My God commands me to become a leader and place my will on the world. And as for myself, I am not even alone. I am the first of many.
People are changing quickly, and people in 40 years wont be as they are now. Satan has already done his great work.
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@Greyparrot
Pride, after all, is a sin
What about American Pride? Poop is poop, but pride is still pride.
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@Lashwnda
We takin June if it's free now. You bitch-ass crackas gave us the shortest, nastiest month. We was SLAVES, these niggas get June and all they do is a take a dick up they ass.
Ngl, good point.
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@RemyBrown
poop is still poop
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@Greyparrot
USA is poop.
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@Greyparrot
Do you have American pride?
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@FLRW
Trump frequently ranked women on a scale of 1 to 10 and discussed everything from oral sex to anal sex
True Christian representative.