Proving all (other) religions wrong.

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Nihilism destroys everything, including itself.

It's stupid.


It is the absolute truth that there is no absolute truth!

The Truth? Meaningless!


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Nihilism, the spirit of our age, has reduced (pseudo)intellectual discourse and debate to who can be the most destructive!


I know you can know nothing!





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@Mopac
You can't prove anything.
I'm not trying to prove anything. You are The one trying to prove something exists that is unobservable through normal means.

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This sounds related to Pascal's wager where you can't assume the god you pray to is the correct god.
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@Greyparrot

This sounds related to Pascal's wager where you can't assume the god you pray to is the correct god.
Pascal's wager does not lend itself to any particular religion or god over any other so I'm not sure why I would assume that to begin with. Also just for clarity sake I do not believe humans do pray to any god(s).
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You can't prove anything to a nihilist.

I don't need to prove The Supreme and Ultimate Reality exists, it is self evident.

As this is what God means, your denial of God makes you a nihilist.

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Chill out dude. Nobody is out to get you.
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More meaningless nonsense from the nihilist.

Get real.

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I'm just telling you that if there is a nihilist conspiracy I'm unaware of it. Btw I do not self identify as a nihilist.
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You may be an ignorant nihilist, but you are still a nihilist.

The proof is in that you don't believe in God. That is what a nihilist is! 

Your behavior is exactly what is expected from a nihilist. Don't kid yourself.


Get real.



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@Mopac
You are aware that nihilism and atheism are two different things yeah? I mean there are even religious atheists such as taoists. Taoist by the way also not nihilists.
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Utter nonsense.


The Ultimate Reality is God.

You don't believe in God.


If you don't believe The Ultimate Reality exists, you are a nihilist.

If you believe The Ultimate Reality exists, you believe God exists!


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It's more that I don't believe for a moment that you know what the ultimate reality is and you have given me no reason to think otherwise.
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I am irrelevant.


So do you believe The Ultimate Reality exist or are you a nihilist?


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You don't even know what the ultimate reality is so what do you care?

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Both of us know it exists.

Now admit that it does or confess your nihilism.





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I believe it is highly unlikely that the ultimate reality in any way resembles the being you think of as god. I think that figure only exists in Mopac's imagination. I will continue to think that until you can demonstrate your claims about reality somehow.
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I think your irrational fear of being exposed as an idiot is the reason you are incapable of understanding the very simple things I say.


You should get over your irrational fear of being exposed as an idiot. Believe me, it will be a very smart decision.


I repeat...


I AM IRRELEVANT 


Do you believe The Ultimate Reality exists, or are you a nihilist?


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@Mopac
So this is you not being insulting then? Because I think you could do a better job of it honestly.
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Unless you can tell me what the ultimate reality is I must conclude that you don't know what your talking about anyway and operating under that assumption we probably mean differentvthings by ultimate reality. Even if I believe an an ultimate reality I very much doubt it is the ultimate reality you mean. That renders your question mostly meaningless.
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If you want to continue this discuss you will need a rigorous definition of ultimate reality that is not self referential or circular. Do you have one or not?
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You clearly have an irrational fear of being exposed as an idiot, otherwise you wouldn't keep avoiding the question.

Pointing this out is not an insult.

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@Mopac
Your asking me if I believe in something you have not even described. I cannot answer you until you describe it.
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You are maiing absurd requirements for answering this question.


You clearly have an irrational fear of being exposed as an idiot.
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I meant to say the rebuttal to Pascal's wager.
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@Mopac
You are maiing absurd requiremwnts for answering this question.
Not at all if I asked you if you believe in Oiuljakta you would probably need to know what that is before you could answer the question.

Anyway I have a hunch what you actually believe in is the concept of ultimate reality which has nothing to do with actual reality since it is just a concept. I very much doubt that humans could comprehend the ultimate reality so we really are incapable of believing in it. Unless of course we arecl talking about different things when we say ultimate reality which would only make my point that a rigorous definition is necessary to hold an intelligent discussion.
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@Greyparrot
I meant to say the rebuttal to Pascal's wager.
It is one possible rebuttal.


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@Greyparrot
Pascal's wager is the kind of garbage scholastic western theology comes up with. 

Have some comfort in knowing that Roman "Catholic" church broke away from The Orthodox Catholic Church, and is a perversion of real Christianity.



We know that The Truth is God, and anyone who doesn't believe The Truth exists is very confused.



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@secularmerlin
Obviously a conception of The Ultimate Reality is not The Ultimate Reality.


Now answer the question.

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@Mopac
You answer the question. I'm tired of being the only one answering questions in our relationship. Rigorously define ultimate reality or get off the stage.