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@TheRealNihilist
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if iran keeps enriching nuclear fuel, america should bomb them
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i think it's inevitable that iran gets nukes. eventually we'll get a pacifist president for something like eight years, and iran can just get em then.
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@zedvictor4
you don't care if iran gets nukes? are you mentally challenged?
here is an article from seven years ago. it talks about iran stating it intends to expand its nuclear program and wipe israel off the map.
as was said in the article, israel wouldn't want to teke even a ten percent chance of one hundred percent annihilation, and the usa doesn't want those odds at millions annihilated. getting a deal to have inspectors would be ideal, but if that doesn't happen, the bottom line is that iran cannot be trusted to have an unverified nuclear program, let alone have nukes.
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@n8nrgmi
We already had that deal, and President Trump is placing sanctions because Iran is still making missiles, purportedly to point them at Israel, and also supporting certain militant groups.
there's no good reason for iran not to allow inspectors look at their nuclear program. once that is cut, it's time for an attack. israel would be totally justified in attacking as they had been planning seven years ago. and the usa would have to get its back, and should do it regardless of who joins in.
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@n8nrgmi
Has the United States held up its end of the bargain? What do you think about the economic sanctions?
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@Snoopy
i would have kept the obama negotiation in place. i can respect trump getting out, but only if he's willing to back up the fall out with force, if necessary. the bottom line is that there iran cannot have nukes. the red line needs to be whether or not inspectors are let in. and them making too much fuel perhaps should be a red line as well, cause the inspections weren't very ironclad. that is, i think we had to give iran like three weeks or so notice before we could inspect. it's a glaring hole in the agreement.
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@n8nrgmi
here is an article that says if iran opts out of the treaty, and doesn't let inspectors in, it may become impossible to tell if they are working on a bombi think that article also talks about how they plan to enrich more than is allowed under the plan, unless they get economic relief from sanctions. just google words like iran and enriching to find out more on that.
If this is the best you can find then your claims are insufficient. The best you can come up with as if statement. Lets say Iran are making a nuclear bomb. Why is US yet again intervening into matters that don't concern them? Because of their ally Israel? They are only an ally of the US when a Republican is in charge. When a Democrat is in charge they besmirch their name like how Netanyahu disrespected Obama in his political ad?
So the US ought to value protectionist ethno-state like Israel is what you are saying?
here is an article from seven years ago. it talks about iran stating it intends to expand its nuclear program and wipe israel off the map.
They had 7 years to make a bomb. Does making a nuclear bomb take a long time to make or did they keep their end of the bargain with the Iran nuclear deal? Whatever it is you would have to conclude they are not a threat. Even if they are currently still trying to make a bomb for 7 years haven't you heard of a thing called espionage? I am supposed to believe one of if not the greatest superpower on Earth can't even find evidence of this bomb being in development or find Iran's end of the deal was not kept with the Iran nuclear deal? This to me looks like BS and you are justifying countless of deaths just like other justified countless of deaths in Afghanistan, Syria and Vietnam. The list goes on but you get the point. History repeats itself and yet people like you don't understand the clear patterns when it comes to US intervention.
i think it's inevitable that iran gets nukes. eventually we'll get a pacifist president for something like eight years, and iran can just get em then.
A threat must first be seen before the US can justify another war. I doubt that will happen because of the war profiteers but it would be fair and what also would be fair is actually specifically targeting the threats not civilians.
there's no good reason for iran not to allow inspectors look at their nuclear program. once that is cut, it's time for an attack. israel would be totally justified in attacking as they had been planning seven years ago. and the usa would have to get its back, and should do it regardless of who joins in.
Guess when the US superpower comes knockin you better start obeyin. Who would have thought the very country that values freedom over everything has a hypocritical stance when other countries do the same? Iran is one such example and Israel is another. Iran is an enemy therefore they are not allowed to have their freedom. Israel is an ally so they can get away with what they are doing to Palestine and allowing the authoritarian Netanyahu to still be in-charge.
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@Snoopy
We already had that deal, and President Trump is placing sanctions because Iran is still making missiles, purportedly to point them at Israel, and also supporting certain militant groups.
Evidence of Iran making missiles and in the agreement did it say they weren't allowed to make missiles?
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@TheRealNihilist
The missiles hold no bearing within the "nuclear deal". That's why its called a bad deal.
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@TheRealNihilist
what's your breaking point? if iran doesn't let inspectors in, should that warrant force? what if they are making more nuclear fuel than they would need for energy? what if i am correct in my understanding that even with the deal we had to give them notice to inspect, thus making it possible for them to hide the fuel if they are openly making more than was agreed, which they said they would?
you dont think it's okay for them to have nukes do you?
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@n8nrgmi
Iran caused a lot of problems in Syria that ended costing America alot.
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@TheRealNihilist
what about all the death to america chants their people do? what about the fact that they are religious fanatics who might be okay with sacrificing their people to get a few good shots in at israel or the usa? you seem to be suggesting an iran with nukes isn't a problem. i dont know what rock you are living under, or if you are taking your crazy meds properly
Just so we're all clear on what happened:
The US very nearly went to war with Iran earlier today (Thursday). President Trump authorized a military strike against the so-called Islamic Republic, after it'd downed a cutting-edge US surveillance drone, but he changed his mind before the plan could be executed, though reportedly US warplanes were already in the air before receiving the signal that the attack had been called off. I guess he pretty much made the same call here as Obama did when presented with a similar situation a couple of years ago.
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@n8nrgmi
Sorry; but I don't believe any U.S. led coalition propaganda.
Especially after the Weapons of Mass Destruction lies.
The U.S's only concern is protecting vested interests.
And just for the record; I don't believe Iranian propaganda either.
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@Ramshutu
Apply the same to Israel.
The USA lying about WMD's all over again and the gullible are falling for it again.
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@Snoopy
Then change the deal then. No-one has yet to give me evidence of Iran breaking the last deal so making them sign a new one if they deem it fair they would accept in return of not being bombed. Problem solved. No war.The missiles hold no bearing within the "nuclear deal". That's why its called a bad deal.
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@n8nrgmi
My breaking point is when independent sources have information that Iran have a nuclear weapon and a representative of the Iranian government has the intent of bombing US or their allies. The intent must be said not implied. Yes there are cases where they can be hiding their true agenda but highly doubtful Iran bombing won't slip outside the government.what's your breaking point?
what about all the death to america chants their people do?
This isn't argument for Iran having the intent of blowing up US or is an argument for Iran having nuclear weapons. I don't care what people say when they can't back it up. I care about what they say when they can back it up. When it is proven they have nuclear weapons then they go in the US rant again then I think it would be the right thing to do to go to war with them. I would personally try and make them you know give up their weapons instead of murdering a ton of people but I am going by fair US defense rules not by my own standard which the US should be are the peacekeepers of the world.
what about the fact that they are religious fanatics who might be okay with sacrificing their people to get a few good shots in at israel or the usa?
Not an argument for Iran having a nuclear bomb or when they do have the bomb having the intent of using it.
you seem to be suggesting an iran with nukes isn't a problem. i dont know what rock you are living under, or if you are taking your crazy meds properly
I live in a house depending on your definition can be rock but I don't think I am under the actual definition. If you meant it metaphorically then no I do know the threat of Iran but I just don't see the information to support that.
Just to make things clear. You have yet to answer the most important questions in making this a fair assault on Iran.
1) Evidence of them having nuclear weapons?
2) Evidence of their intent of using those nuclear weapons after the time they had those weapons?
An independent source would be greatly appreciated but lets just stick to that.
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@n8nrgmi
The same can be said for Pakistan or any other country. Get real dude.you don't care if iran gets nukes? are you mentally challenged?
The nuclear bomb genie is out of the bag/bottle and the only way to put it back into the bag/bottle is for unified humanity to 'Get Smart' before nuclear bomb accidents, or worse, occur.
This is minimal brainer for those use rational, logical common sense. There is no turning back and going back into the womb/bottle/bag. There is only abortion of nuclear weapons before they abort humanity. You must not have been aware of M.A.D in the 70's, 80's and the actions humans took to attempt some sanity in those regards.
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@n8nrgmi
if iran doesn't let inspectors in, should that warrant force?
N. Korea, Russia { Putin }, Pakistan etc, can only mean one thing, USA is great again or soon will be.
...'The rapid effort shortly supplied enough plutonium to test the first atomic explosion in July 1945. The atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima, Japan, on August 6 was a Tennessee uranium bomb { Oak Ridge } The bomb dropped on Nagasaki three days later used Hanford’s { Washington state } plutonium. The attacks effectively ended World War II."...
Hanford site .."To this day, the endeavor continues, and the site is closed to the public except for escorted tours."..
Lol, sounds reasonable. Let's just wait till they have a bomb first...then we can see if their willingness to shoot down a drone in international waters extends to nukes.
I mean, isn't that how Hitler got his start?
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@Snoopy
Doesn't matter if they develop nukes.
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@TheRealNihilist
what if iran gets nukes and wipes out israel, which they said was their intent?
what if israel does what it said it'd do a few years ago and attacks iran because it won't let in inspectors? we shouldn't get their back?
what if iran arms terrorists with nukes and wipes out washington DC, and it may or may not be clear that iran was responsible? you said you'd only act if it was officially iran. how naive and stupid can ya be?
what if iran wipes out a few usa cities? and any retaliation would be met with more nukes going off in the usa? it's easy to think tit for tat would be implied, but to someone as crazy as iran, they might not see it that way and want more pot shots in than the usa gets. assured mutual destruction works well in theory, but isn't full proof.... assured mutual destruction might happen.
what if iran gets hundreds of nukes and holds the human race hostage? it only would take a hundred nukes going off just right to bring a dooms day situation because of the environmental effects globally.
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@n8nrgmi
So many what ifs yet I don't see evidence of Iran breaking the nuclear deal or are in the possession of nukes. I wonder why. Maybe because you don't have evidence yet you still want to murder people without the due diligence they are capable of murdering you.
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@zedvictor4
How come The U.S.A. is allowed to enrich nuclear fuel and Iran isn't.Who are the dictators here?
Developing weapons is not, in-and-of-itself, a hostile act.
The U.S. and others made a deal with Iran to delay their development of nuclear capabilities.
The U.S. broke their end of the deal.
With no deal in place, Iran can do whatever it likes within its own sovereign borders.
I mean it's not like Iran cared whether or not that drone they shot down was unmanned, or that there might be people on those tankers they blew up with mines.
Iran isn't the pillar of humanity. They are a radical right wing theocracy that needs to be curbstomped.