Themeless Mafia 1 - Day Phase 1

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airmax1227 [1]: sui_generis,
Danielle [1]: Lunatic,
Lunatic [0]:
coal [0]:
Objectivity [0]:
Zaradi [0]:
sui_generis [0]:
Ragnar [0]:
oromagi [0]:

Not Voting [7]: airmax1227, Danielle, coal, Objectivity, Zaradi, Ragnar, oromagi

With 9 in play, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Day 1 ends at 7:10pm EST Friday, May 22nd.

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I'm liking TUF's/Lunatics  vibes so far, gonna peg him as a townie for now but its early so we'll see
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I was going to wait until after maybe someone took the bait, but since TUF has already tripped the wire. . . 

Town Roles:

1. Vanilla Townie
2. Town Jailkeeper
3. Town Cop
4.  Town Mason 
5. Town Tracker
6. Town Doctor
7. Town Friendly Neighbor

Mafia Roles:

1. Mafia Goon
2. Mafia Role Cop
3. Mafia  Roleblocker
 
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1. airmax1227 [0]:
2. Danielle [0]:
3. Lunatic [0]:
4. coal [0]:
5. Objectivity [0]:
6. Zaradi [0]:
7. sui_generis [0]:
8. Ragnar [0]:
9. oromagi [0]:

Here are my initial thoughts:

Potentially either 6 town and 3 mafia (unlikely, for balance reasons) or 7 town and 2 mafia (more likely).

If the former, then the Mason must be able to talk to a non-Mason.

If the latter, then the Mason should be able to only talk to another Mason; which would suggest only the possibility of only one viable fake role claim.  

Assuming a 7 town 2 scum setup, which I think is most likely, of the two mafia, one has to be a goon, the other has to be either a role cop or a role blocker; to have two would make scum OP. 

If there is a town friendly neighbor, someone should have results DP2 confirming that person's affiliation, unless the town friendly neighbor is roleblocked by either of a potential mafia roleblocker or town jailkeeper.

Whoever the friendly neighbor targets should indicate the message they receive first thing DP2. 

The jailkeeper should try to figure out who is the doc and protect that person NP1 if it is clear who the doc is.  Otherwise, the jailkeeper should try to block the potential scum most likely to perform the kill. 

It would be good if the cop could investigate the potential tracker, the tracker could track the jailkeeper, who protects the doctor on NP1.   

The cop should not claim until DP3, and post results for the past two night actions then.  

Now let's see how long it takes for TUF to suggest a mass claim. 


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Wow, we have two games happening simultaneously! 
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@Objectivity
I'd like your list of reads on all players. 

airmax1227 [0]:
Danielle [0]:
Lunatic [0]:
coal [0]:
Objectivity [0]:
Zaradi [0]:
sui_generis [0]:
Ragnar [0]:
oromagi [0]:

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@Lucky
When you post vote counts, can you do it like this?  It's just easier to follow this way.

Please bold whoever has votes on them, and put the people voting in parens.  

Also, it would be very helpful for everyone so that you don't have to keep going back and reviewing posts that have already been reviewed, if you put the post number in there.  

Thanks

airmax1227 [1/5]:( sui_generis (#18))
Danielle [1/5]: (Lunatic (#22))
Lunatic [0/5]:
coal [0/5]:
Objectivity [0/5]:
Zaradi [0/5]:
sui_generis [0/5]:
Ragnar [0/5]:
oromagi [0/5]:

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Vote: Coal

Seems like a decent place to start pressuring for now

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@Coal, sure. I'm still getting used to the tools on this site.

Official Vote Count

airmax1227 [1]: sui_generis (18),
Danielle [1]: Lunatic (22),
coal [1]: Zaradi (37),
Lunatic [0]:
Objectivity [0]:
Zaradi [0]:
sui_generis [0]:
Ragnar [0]:
oromagi [0]:

Not Voting [6]: airmax1227, Danielle, coal, Objectivity, Ragnar, oromagi

With 9 in play, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Day 1 ends at 7:10pm EST Friday, May 22nd.


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Also the friendly neighbor should breadcrumb that they are the doctor to draw the night kill away from the doctor. 
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@Zaradi
So why didn't you want to start with Airmax or Danielle, each of whom have one vote on them now?

Do you think you will be able to read objectivity and/or Sui better than you would be able to read me? 
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Slight townreads on Lunatic and Objectivity.
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There's one person here, whom I guarantee is not town!

VTL PressF4Respect

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@Lucky
Thanks, but please include the [1/5] rather than just the number of votes.

I also like parenthesis around the whole listing of the voter and the post in which they voted.  Thanks 

It just helps keep things organized. 

airmax1227 [1/5]:
 (sui_generis (18)), 
Danielle [1/5]: (Lunatic (22)), 
coal [1/5]: (Zaradi (37)), 
Lunatic [0/5]:
Objectivity [0/5]:
Zaradi [0/5]:
sui_generis [0/5]:
Ragnar [0/5]:
oromagi [0/5]:

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Because those votes seemed like RVS votes. To be perfectly clear to everyone, mine isn't. Set-up spec is a pretty easy thing for scum to hide behind in an open set up to try and look active and productive.

Also why question my vote target when you're not even voting?

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@Barney
Hey why not play the game instead of talking to people who aren't in the game?
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@Zaradi
You ignored my second question.  So you are town reading Objectivity then and you are town reading Sui? 
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Like I said, slight townread on Objectivity. Sui's bull right now because he hasn't posted anything that's AI
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Ebwop: null, not bull
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@Zaradi
And you're confident in your ability to read both sui and Objectivity?

Have you played with them before in forum mafia? 
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Official Vote Count

airmax1227 [1]: sui_generis (18),
Danielle [1]: Lunatic (22),
coal [1]: Zaradi (37),
Lunatic [0]:
Objectivity [0]:
Zaradi [0]:
sui_generis [0]:
Ragnar [0]:
oromagi [0]:

Not Voting [6]: airmax1227, Danielle, coal, Objectivity, Ragnar, oromagi

With 9 in play, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Day 1 ends at 7:10pm EST Friday, May 22nd.
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I was going to wait until after maybe someone took the bait, but since TUF has already tripped the wire. . . 
I "tripped the wire" before you even made the "bait post" when I mentioned that everyone would claim vanilla lol.

Potentially either 6 town and 3 mafia (unlikely, for balance reasons) or 7 town and 2 mafia (more likely).
3 Mafia isn't just unlikely, it's impossible. The OP lists all potential mafia set ups, every single one includes only 2 mafia.

Now let's see how long it takes for TUF to suggest a mass claim. 
Lol what? Why would I do that?
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@Lunatic
lol I did not actually read Lucky's OP (or the role list until after your post) 

I was tempted to not even read my role PM... 
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lol I did not actually read Lucky's OP (or the role list until after your post) 

I was tempted to not even read my role PM... 

I know. And I am glad you admit it, so we don't have to get caught up in that. Especially because I personally don't see it as a scum tell like Zaradi.

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Especially because I personally don't see it as a scum tell like Zaradi.

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@Lunatic
Idk, players should read the potential setups... but I just don't care at least for DP1.  I will probably care slightly more DP2. 

What I'd mostly like to see are Adam's reads on people. 

I haven't played with him in the forums before and I'd like to know what he's thinking and why.  

I would also like Sui's reads. 
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I wonder if the masons are going to avoid talking to each other in the forms because they'll be worried about appearing like they're coordinating. 
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@Zaradi
Hey why not play the game instead of talking to people who aren't in the game?
It was a joke at his earlier presence, to which I specifically did not tag him.
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Especially because I personally don't see it as a scum tell like Zaradi.

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Your vote on Coal:


 To be perfectly clear to everyone, mine isn't. Set-up spec is a pretty easy thing for scum to hide behind in an open set up to try and look active and productive.
I am just saying I don't think his set up spec is scummy like you do in light of  the fact I knew he didn't read the OP and probably didn't actually know it was an Open set up. I don't necessarily town read him, but I almost think any of the players on this players list if scum would be more likely to read the OP if they were scum, so it is a slight town tell, but I am keeping an open mind about it.
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airmax1227 [0]:  not sure bc he hasn't posted yet
Danielle [0]: not sure bc she hasn't posted yet
Lunatic [0]:  town read
coal [0]:  idk, you are playing aggressively but you tend to do that so no strong read either way
Objectivity [0]:  town, of course
Zaradi [0]:  no read
sui_generis [0]:  no read
Ragnar [0]:  hasn't posted anything in either direction, no read
oromagi [0]:  no read hasn't posted anything