Trump thinks it is illegal for people to say bad things about him

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Lol I took it as a hobby. I do some of my own personal investments but teaching disabled kids is my passion.
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im a financial manager bro what do you think xD.
Aight question time.

Where’d you get your degree(s) from?

How much did you intern in college?

What was your first job?

Any advice for a finance major in college?

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Lol I took it as a hobby. I do some of my own personal investments but teaching disabled kids is my passion.
God Bless You
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u interested in majoring in finance?


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Everyone should be equal under the law. Surprised you disagree with that. Violation are violations. You can’t censor one person and not the other no matter how small or large the “crime” is. Either way there is no arbiter of truth as it depends on public opinion which is changing. 
everyone should be equal under the law. But you are describing 2 very different "crimes". If you hit someone by accident with your car it is a very different thing from hitting someone with your car on purpose. And to go even further, if you hit someone on purpose with your car that is serious, if you are trying to regularly hit lots of people with your car it is obviously much more serious. 

A politician getting facts wrong now and then is a very different thing then tweeting lies pretty much every single day of your presidency. They are entirely different leagues in terms of seriousness. 

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You still don’t understand. Lying is protected under the first amendment. And the arbiters of whats true or not have an agenda. There’s no basis for preventing speech regardless of how misleading it is if we have the power to produce speech like the N word. It’s a violation of the first amendment and should be considered as such. Ads are almost always misleading whether they’re on tv or on Twitter. Twitter’s job is providing a platform, not deciding which speech should be allowed and which not. When they do that they should be able to be sued.
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You still don’t understand. Lying is protected under the first amendment. 
in public? sure. You can stand on a street corner and shout all the lies you want. But there is no law that says that a digital platform has to let you spread your lies on their website. 

There’s no basis for preventing speech regardless of how misleading it is if we have the power to produce speech like the N word. 
of course we have that power. Private corporations have the right and power to control what is on their platform. They are not required to allow you to publish lies and misinformation. And I would argue that they should have a duty to prevent egregious examples of this from occurring. But again, I think it should be a high bar. A politician fudging a number to look better, whatever that is normal. A politician lying multiple times per day for years on end is a particularly egregious example. 
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in public? sure. You can stand on a street corner and shout all the lies you want. But there is no law that says that a digital platform has to let you spread your lies on their website. 
It’s called the first amendment. Regulating speech without the option of libel is a violation of the first amendment. You can’t be both a publisher and a platform lol.

of course we have that power. Private corporations have the right and power to control what is on their platform. They are not required to allow you to publish lies and misinformation. And I would argue that they should have a duty to prevent egregious examples of this from occurring. But again, I think it should be a high bar. A politician fudging a number to look better, whatever that is normal. A politician lying multiple times per day for years on end is a particularly egregious example.
Then they aren’t by definition a platform lol and should be able to be sued for libel. Regulating speech is what a publisher does not a platform. You’re either a publisher or a platform, plain and simple.
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Apparently speech that is a lie isn’t protected speech. Tell me again how liberals support free speech?
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you just admitted they made the categories and trends...
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Everything that attacks the left is a lie. Haven't you figured it out by now?
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you just admitted they made the categories and trends...
He wants to censor people for “lying” but not be able to sue the censors. These are the modern Democrats. 
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Everything that attacks the left is a lie. Haven't you figured it out by now?
You should’ve seen the Barr heading yesterday lol
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Lol, they refused to allow him to speak, and then accused Barr of dodging questions.

They must have "reclaimed their time" on nearly every answer Barr tried to give them.
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It’s called the first amendment. Regulating speech without the option of libel is a violation of the first amendment. You can’t be both a publisher and a platform lol.
and they are not a publisher. They are a platform. But as a platform they have the right and responsibility that the content on their platform conforms to their rules. You post porn, you get banned. You post lies and misinformation, you should get banned. 

Then they aren’t by definition a platform lol and should be able to be sued for libel. Regulating speech is what a publisher does not a platform. You’re either a publisher or a platform, plain and simple.
You are basically arguing that they have no right to regulate content at all. So people can post porn, rape, murder, anything they want because twitter has no right to limit what anyone posts. If that is the case, then those platforms would collapse being no one wants to see porn pop up all the time. 

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you just admitted they made the categories and trends...
they made categories based on popular things people want to see. That is in no way limiting what people can say or look for. It is just suggestions to help people find content. It is hardly their fault that whatever stupid bullshit you want to see isn't popular. 
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and they are not a publisher. They are a platform. But as a platform they have the right and responsibility that the content on their platform conforms to their rules. You post porn, you get banned. You post lies and misinformation, you should get banned. 
That’s obscene speech which isn’t protected under the first amendment anyways lol. Political speech of any kind is. And even then Twitter doesn’t ban people who post porn lol. You’re advocating for people being censored for lying but not for posting porn lol.

You are basically arguing that they have no right to regulate content at all. So people can post porn, rape, murder, anything they want because twitter has no right to limit what anyone posts. If that is the case, then those platforms would collapse being no one wants to see porn pop up all the time. 
Once again, obscene speech is not protected under the 1st Amendment. Political speech and lying about it is. Porn already exists on Twitter for years and they haven’t done anything about it lol. 
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That’s obscene speech which isn’t protected under the first amendment anyways lol. Political speech of any kind is. 
you are arguing that Twitter has no right to censor content. That means they cannot ban people for what they post. The extension of that argument is they can't control anything on their platform. 

and even then Twitter doesn’t ban people who post porn lol.
I'm just throwing out examples of content they obviously need to be able to control on their platform. There are rules around how nudity can be posted on twitter. If you violate them you can be banned. 

You’re advocating for people being censored for lying but not for posting porn lol.
I am advocating for a platform having the right and responsibility to make sure that their platform is safe to use. That means ensuring that obscene content is filtered or blocked. That includes keeping obvious lies and misinformation from being spread. 

Once again, obscene speech is not protected under the 1st Amendment. Political speech and lying about it is.
And that does not apply to twitter. Twitter is not a public place. It is a private corporation. If you want to go into public and yell lies, you go right ahead. But if you want to use the software of a private corporation, you must obey their rules. If you don't like it feel free to make your own platform. 




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you are arguing that Twitter has no right to censor content. That means they cannot ban people for what they post. The extension of that argument is they can't control anything on their platform. 
Political content. Never said obscene speech. 

I'm just throwing out examples of content they obviously need to be able to control on their platform. There are rules around how nudity can be posted on twitter. If you violate them you can be banned. 
So you’re fine with obscene content but not political speech? 

And that does not apply to twitter. Twitter is not a public place. It is a private corporation. If you want to go into public and yell lies, you go right ahead. But if you want to use the software of a private corporation, you must obey their rules. If you don't like it feel free to make your own platform. 
Then they should be able to be sued like any other private corporation for libel. Or do you not want that either? If it’s selectively banning things and keeping others with regards to political speech they aren’t a platform, they are a publisher and therefore should be able to be sued 
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Porn on Twitter is fine. Lies are not. 
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So you’re fine with obscene content but not political speech?
I have never said i am fine with obscene content. Why would you think that?

Then they should be able to be sued like any other private corporation for libel. Or do you not want that either?
why? They are not creating content. You can't sue someone for saying something that they didn't say. 

If it’s selectively banning things and keeping others with regards to political speech they aren’t a platform, they are a publisher and therefore should be able to be sued 
that doesn't make sense. There is a very big difference between filtering objectionable content and creating content. 

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I have never said i am fine with obscene content. Why would you think that?
So tell me why Twitter isn’t banning porn lol

why? They are not creating content. You can't sue someone for saying something that they didn't say. 
Censoring someone’s opinion is selectively choosing what content gets out. All the articles at CNN are written by an individual that gets put forth or quashed by the company. This is exactly what Twitter is doing.

that doesn't make sense. There is a very big difference between filtering objectionable content and creating content. 
Permitting Porn but not political speech is inherently wrong. A platform’s job is to remove obscene content not political speech
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if they can choose it, they can limit it and they do
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I have never said i am fine with obscene content. Why would you think that?
So tell me why Twitter isn’t banning porn lol
what? I have no idea why this question is relevant. 

Censoring someone’s opinion is selectively choosing what content gets out.
this is accurate. The platform puts rules in place for what content is and is not acceptable on their platform. People who obey those rules may post. People who do not get banned. 

All the articles at CNN are written by an individual that gets put forth or quashed by the company. This is exactly what Twitter is doing.
that is nothing like what twitter is doing. CNN is creating that content. They write the story and publish it. They are liable for the things they are writing. Twitter is providing a platform for other people to post things they write. Those people must obey the rules of twitter to post there, but twitter is not creating the content. 

Permitting Porn but not political speech is inherently wrong. A platform’s job is to remove obscene content not political speech
a private company has the right to control their rules. If you don't like those rules use a different platform and stop crying about it. 
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this is accurate. The platform puts rules in place for what content is and is not acceptable on their platform. People who obey those rules may post. People who do not get banned. 
Only obscene speech is not acceptable. Political content is.

that is nothing like what twitter is doing. CNN is creating that content. They write the story and publish it. They are liable for the things they are writing. Twitter is providing a platform for other people to post things they write. Those people must obey the rules of twitter to post there, but twitter is not creating the content.
No. A writer creates a story and CNN decides whether it should be on their website or not. Another person creates a story and puts it on Twitter but it can get quashed by Twitter lol. It’s the same thing lol

a private company has the right to control their rules. If you don't like those rules use a different platform and stop crying about it.
Then they should be able to be sued just like every other company right?
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Only obscene speech is not acceptable. Political content is.
In your opinion. But your opinion doesn't mean anything at all. They are a private corporation and can decide whatever rules they want for posting on their site. If you don't like their rules you are free to go elsewhere. 

No. A writer creates a story and CNN decides whether it should be on their website or not. Another person creates a story and puts it on Twitter but it can get quashed by Twitter lol. It’s the same thing lol
nope, not even particularly similar. You are comparing CNN writing and posting a story to some random person writing a story and posting it on a platform. They are different. 

Then they should be able to be sued just like every other company right?
for what? You keep saying for libel, but that law only applies to the person who wrote/said it. Since twitter isn't writing/saying the things you want to sue them for, then those laws do not apply to them. You can try to sue the person who actually wrote it though. 
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In your opinion. But your opinion doesn't mean anything at all. They are a private corporation and can decide whatever rules they want for posting on their site. If you don't like their rules you are free to go elsewhere. 
You disagree with me on this? Twitter should allow obscene content but not political speech?

nope, not even particularly similar. You are comparing CNN writing and posting a story to some random person writing a story and posting it on a platform. They are different. 
It’s not a platform if they’re allowing whats posted and what’s not lol. That’s exactly what CNN does.

for what? You keep saying for libel, but that law only applies to the person who wrote/said it. Since twitter isn't writing/saying the things you want to sue them for, then those laws do not apply to them. You can try to sue the person who actually wrote it though.
No it’s doesn’t lol. You sue CNN not the writer lol. Why the hell do you think Nick Sandmann sued CNN and Washington Post and won lol.
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No it’s doesn’t lol. You sue CNN not the writer lol. Why the hell do you think Nick Sandmann sued CNN and Washington Post and won lol.

When Twitter loses their 230 status..they will be immediately sued for pushing a platform supporting political hate groups like Antifa, BLM, and SPLC that actually cause damage to the lives of people.

We need more Nick Sandman millionaires.
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When Twitter loses their 230 status..they will be immediately sued for pushing a platform supporting political hate groups like Antifa, BLM, and SPLC that actually cause damage to the lives of people.

We need more Nick Sandman millionaires.
Fax lmao