SUPREME COURT RULES "LOCKDOWN" ILLEGAL

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I don't detect any personal attacks or foul language.
True.
I wasn't aware that CAPITALIZATION was untoward.
In moderation, no. However, you've been writing whole posts in all caps with large numbers of exclamation marks. That is the online equivalent of shouting.
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I am somewhat exasperated by otherwise intelligent individuals suddenly falling victim to naked appeals to authority.
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Ok, but don't lose your cool. The fastest way to lose a debate is to lose your cool.
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You can only agree with the science that is not censored by elite controlled MSM.
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You can only agree with the science that is not censored by elite controlled MSM.
Trump made Kamala Harris an anti-vaxxer 😳
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Everyone knows the real reason Donald Trump supporters are sceptical of climate change is that conservatives are fundamentally anti-science. Some doubt science because it conflicts with their religious beliefs; others because its implications might mean radically shifting the global economy in an anti-growth or heavily statist direction, which goes against their free-market ideology; others because, being conservative, they are prisoners of their dogmatism, need closure and fear uncertainty. I hear this all the time from lefties on social media. And there seems to be some evidence to support it.

At least there is if you believe studies like The Republican War on Science (Mooney, 2005), Politicization of Science in the Public Sphere (Gauchat, 2012), and ‘Not for all the tea in China!’ Political Ideology and the Avoidance of Dissonance-Arousing Situations (Nam et al, 2013).

But there’s a wrinkle here and you may have guessed what it is. The world of social science is overwhelmingly left-wing: so heavily agenda-driven, so rife with confirmation bias and skewed methodology that almost inevitably its studies will show conservatives as blinkered and dim, and lefties as open-minded and clever regardless of the evidence.

Lest you think this is my own bias showing, another recent study confirmed it: a survey of 479 sociology professors found that only 4 per cent identified as conservative or libertarian, while 83 per cent identified as liberal or left-radical. In another survey — of psychologists this time — only 6 per cent identified as ‘conservative overall’.

While Thatcher said the 'facts of life are conservative', how can we be sure the facts of science don't swing left?
Just occasionally, though, a more balanced study does slip through the net — like the one just published by a team from Oxford University. The study by Nathan Cofnas et al — Does Activism in the Social Sciences Explain Conservatives’ Distrust of Scientists? — pours scorn on the idea that conservatives are any more anti-science than lefties. It’s not science they distrust so much as scientists — especially ones in more nebulous, activism-driven fields like ecology or sociology. As Cofnas told Campus Reform, a site that exposes left-wing bias at universities: ‘Conservatives are right to be sceptical. Take any politicised issue that is connected to some disagreement about scientific fact. I do not believe there is a single case in the last couple of decades where a major scientific organisation took a position that went against the platform of the Democratic party.’ He added: ‘What an odd coincidence that “science” always, without exception, supports the liberal worldview.’

Wait, though. While Margaret Thatcher said the ‘facts of life are conservative’, how can we be sure that the facts of science don’t naturally swing left? This is what left-wing scientists seem to believe. But as Cofnas shows, in order to reach that conclusion, they have to torture the data till it screams. Or even just make it up.

In 2014, a paper was published in Science called ‘When contact changes minds: An experiment on transmission of support for gay equality’. This demonstrated that instinctively homophobic, buttoned-up conservatives were more likely to become liberal on meeting a gay man. Their study showed that ‘a 20-minute conversation with a gay canvasser’ increased their acceptance of same-sex marriage nine months later. Great! Except as two graduate students subsequently demonstrated, no study was ever conducted. To the chagrin of the social scientists who had welcomed this paper and its heartwarming message, it had to be retracted.

Where are the peer-reviewers who are supposed to vet these things? Well, it turns out they’re generally willing to give a free pass to any thesis that accords with the liberal narrative. For example, over the course of more than a decade, Diederik Stapel ‘published dozens of sensational papers on such topics as how easily Whites or men can be prompted to discriminate against Blacks or women’. When exposed as a fraud, Stapel explained that he was merely giving social scientists what they were ‘waiting for’.

Stapel probably had a point. If research supports a liberal shibboleth — say, the notion that violence is a learned behaviour rather than innate — then it will be given huge prominence. In 2000, the American Academy of Pediatrics testified to Congress that ‘more than 3,500’ studies had investigated the link between exposure to media violence and actual violent behaviour. This was a lie. Even those few studies — fewer than 1,000 — that purported to find a causal link often did so on the flimsiest of evidence. For example, one established the elevated ‘aggression’ caused by watching an exciting film by asking a child ‘whether he would pop a balloon if one were present’.

If the evidence doesn’t accord with the correct ‘woke’ narrative then right-thinking social scientists tailor it till it does. This is what happened to a 2007 study showing racially diverse communities are more suspicious, withdrawn, ungenerous, fractured and fractious. Such an incendiary refutation of the well-known truth that ‘diversity is strength’ could not go unedited. So it didn’t. Publication was delayed until the author could ‘develop proposals to compensate for the negative effects of diversity’. To publish the facts on their own would be ‘irresponsible’.

Eventually, the author published it with a disquisition on how increasing diversity would lead to ‘significant benefits in the medium or long term’. This accords with ‘contact theory’ — a notion popular among social scientists that the more we’re physically exposed to diversity the more we’ll learn to love it. And if the hard evidence speaks otherwise, well never mind. You can just do what the author of that diversity report does: every time some unhelpful conservative type cites it to back up their argument that diversity causes social problems, he accuses them of selectively citing his findings because they’ve ignored the bit at the end where he explains that diversity will be good.
One day.

It’s not science I don’t trust – it’s the scientists.



Argument from authority always tells you to "trust science"

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There seems to be some confusion. Masks provide some minor benefit in protecting yourself. However the largest benefit is protecting others by inhibiting what comes out of your mouth. So in a sense, six feet + mask will protect you, provided it's everyone else who is wearing the mask.
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This is an incomplete list of censored scientists.

John Ioannidis, Professor of Medicine, Stanford University
Scott Atlas, Stanford University
Karol Sikora, dean of Buckingham U medical school
Prof Detlef Krüger, virologist, Berlin
Prof Johan Giesecke, former EU chief epidemiologist
Michael Levitt, Nobel Prize laureate, biologist
Prof Christopher Kuhbandner
Prof Carl Heneghan, Oxford University
Prof Sucharit Bhakdi, microbiology, Mainz 
Prof Mikko Paunio, epidemiologist, Finland
Prof Dan Yamin, infectious disease, Tel Aviv University
Prof Karin Moelling, virology, U of Zurich
Professor Klaus Püschel, forensic medicine
Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, physician, Germany

We are not allowed to trust THAT science.

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The media needs to be trust busted
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Just treat Media as political action groups that have to disclose who is funding them.

Someone is paying Anderson Cooper 50,000 a day and it sure is not ad revenue with those ratings.
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Just treat Media as political action groups that have to disclose who is funding them.

Someone is paying Anderson Cooper 50,000 a day and it sure is not ad revenue with those ratings.
Every class I’ve been in has discussed race to some extent on my college campus. It’s literally a disgrace
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Critical race theory is disgusting. A revival of 1800's science that should have been debunked by now.

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You can only agree with the science that is not censored by elite controlled MSM.
There's actually quite a bit of "good data" on CDC.GOV that simply goes unreported.
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They try to pit black and white against each other in order to distract everyone from the FACT of **RICH-PRIVILEGE**. Less discrimination because of the color of your skin does not equal "privilege". It's POOR PEOPLE who have de-facto ZERO LEGAL RIGHTS because they can't afford a lawyer. **RICH-PRIVILEGE** should be the response to every complaint about "white-privilege". RACISM IS A SCAM TO DISTRACT US FROM OUR TRUE OPPRESSORS.

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There seems to be some confusion. Masks provide some minor benefit in protecting yourself. However the largest benefit is protecting others by inhibiting what comes out of your mouth. So in a sense, six feet + mask will protect you, provided it's everyone else who is wearing the mask.
Wearing a mask actually INCREASES the spread of virus (from non-symptomatic patients) by forcing them to touch their mask and touch their face before opening doors or touching chairs or tables.

Every time you touch your mask to put it on or take it off you are spreading virus to your hands.

Also, some masks may mitigate some larger droplets from sneezes, but N95 masks DO NOT FILTER OUTBOUND BREATH OR SNEEZES.

Also, if gas station stores are opened and restaurants are opened and gyms are opened, what's the point of closing down churches and bars??

AIRBORNE VIRUS GETS IN YOUR HAIR AND ON YOUR CLOTHES AND ON YOUR SKIN.

So, it really doesn't matter if you wear a mask, YOU WILL STILL GET INFECTED with the deadly plague.
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Every time you touch your mask to put it on or take it off you are spreading virus to your hands.
And vice versa i.e. virus leaves mask onto hand, and leaves hand onto mask.  Thats why
washing hands --see disifnectants for hands n many places---   in conjunction with social distancing ---and that does more to mitigate the spread--- and wearing of masks  ---that do the most mitigation---.

Those in public arena, who practice all three with diligence, do the most to mitigate covid.


Also, some masks may mitigate some larger droplets from sneezes, but N95 masks DO NOT FILTER OUTBOUND BREATH OR SNEEZES.
My guess is they do more than mask with one-way valves.

Also, if gas station stores are opened and restaurants are opened and gyms are opened, what's the point of closing down churches and bars??
I agree gyms make no sense since persons exhalations are greater.   Churches similar issue as singing increases exhalation exposure.

Bars, well stupidity runs rampant in bars, so that is a minima brainer why they should be closed.

AIRBORNE VIRUS GETS IN YOUR HAIR AND ON YOUR CLOTHES AND ON YOUR SKIN.
Another reason to wear the mask.  It is a minimal brainer 3R

So, it really doesn't matter if you wear a mask, YOU WILL STILL GET INFECTED with the deadly plague.
False on first half of your sentence and true on 2nd half i.e. I believe everyone on planet is going to get covid, sooner or later, the only question is whether it is before or after there is anti-body and/or vaccines available to each person.  I saw virologist person back in April maybe.

I have liberal friend who says I'm just believing Trump , and cronies, and I  have to remind them that just because this adminstration says something, doesnt make if false.  Sometimes the left and right avoid critical thinking { rational, logical common senses } like it was the plague.

....'May 26/ 2020....Hong Kong and Singapore reported their first cases of the novel coronavirus in January. Four months later, the densely packed Asian metropolises, with a combined population of about 13 million, have seen 27 fatalities between them.
Just 0.4% of those with confirmed infections have died in Hong Kong. In Singapore—less than 0.1%. If the U.S. had a similar fatality rate as the average of the two, its death toll would now stand at about 4,100, rather than 98,000 and growing."...


Hong Konkgs third wave LINK

"It's quite disappointing and frustrating because Hong Kong had really got things very much under control," says Malik Peiris, Chair of Virology at the University of Hong Kong.

He believes there were two flaws in the system.

First, many returnees opted to quarantine for 14 days at home - an arrangement that's common in many countries including the UK - rather than in quarantine camps.

"There is a weakness there because other people in the home are not under any form of restriction, and will still be coming and going," says Prof Peiris.
However, he believes the more serious problem came from the government's decision to exempt several groups of people from testing and quarantine when they entered Hong Kong.

Hong Kong had exempted about 200,000 people, including seafarers, aircrew and executives of companies listed on the stock exchange, from quarantine.
It said the exceptions were needed to ensure normal daily operations continued in Hong Kong, or because their travel was necessary to the city's economic development."...


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And following along with the Hong Kong 3rd wave, we see USA halting screening ergo contact tracing at US airports.  Can anyone say idiot it white house? oh yeah most USA and most of world has been saying that since Trumpty Dumpty got in there on Putin's shenanigans. 

We dont have a conservative party, we have an idiot party  who pretend to be conservative with large amount of ignorant religous zealots in their ranks.

This airport ignorance is more of the same irrational, illogical lack of common sense we see from so called 'conservatives' 90% of the time.
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Sweden only had 1 wave cause other people listened to fake science out of UK.

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.....Sweden only had 1 wave...

Yeah Sweden is great if you like dead people and rising. Now US is trending toward Sweden accidentally and closing airport screening and contact tracing.  Idiot party in white house thanks to 50% religous zealots -- i.e. ignorant of rational, logical common sense---, 25% ignorant redneck racist type { i.e. the rebel south will rise again }, 15% { orange Putin Mafia  parrot type } , 5%{?}, 5%{?}


.."By “doing Sweden,” Rubin and other experts mean Americans’ pullback from social distancing that dates from May, when states began lifting stay-at-home orders and other policies aimed at reducing viral transmission. The effect has had many of the failed aspects of Sweden’s approach, but with none of the steps that kept that country from being a total disaster."...
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Sweden’s coronavirus cases have hit a new low, with health experts claiming that the country has benefitted from its decision to not go into lockdown during the first wave.
Out of the more than 120,000 tests carried out by Sweden  in the last week, only 1.3 per cent had the virus, according to media reports.

Countries with a lockdown are now feeling the pain Sweden had in the 1st few months, prolonging the inevitable while destroying their economies.

Sometimes it's better to get it over with quickly instead of peeling off the bandaid slowly. At-risk people were always going to die. Lockdown or no lockdown. It's just a matter of time.
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Sometimes it's better to get it over with quickly instead of peeling off the bandaid slowly. At-risk people were always going to die. Lockdown or no lockdown. It's just a matter of time.
This is not the case ergo false, when mitigation of the viral spread allows time for  vaccine or anti-body shot as a preventive and may save our life. 

Your orange, Putin-Mafia-parrot mentality, is a narrow-minded, ban-aid mentality, is every human for them self, and not the..' were all in this together' aka ..'all for one and one for all' mentality.

..."Earlier in the pandemic, Sweden did not go through a strict lockdown like many other countries. Younger children continued to go to school, and businesses and restaurants stayed open at limited capacities. There was a spike in coronavirus cases and deaths, adding up to nearly 82,000 confirmed cases and more than 5,700 deaths. This death rate is among the highest in Europe for its population of about 10 million. Recently, daily deaths in Sweden have dropped down close to zero."...











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There's evidence Democrat Mayors put infected people in retirement homes just to inflate the death numbers to make "Trump look bad." 

It's disgusting.
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A better one-to-one comparison would be Peru and Brazil.

Peru had a full military lockdown.

Brazil had no official lockdown.

Their "curves" look almost identical.

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What kind of sense does it make to close CHURCHES, but leave AIRPORTS and RESTAURANTS opened?
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And vice versa i.e. virus leaves mask onto hand, and leaves hand onto mask.  Thats why
washing hands --see disifnectants for hands n many places---   in conjunction with social distancing ---and that does more to mitigate the spread--- and wearing of masks  ---that do the most mitigation---.

Those in public arena, who practice all three with diligence, do the most to mitigate covid.
This is not happening.
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Lockdowns were 100% predicated on bad science.

"Imperial College epidemiologist Neil Ferguson was behind the highly disputed research that sparked the mass culling of eleven million sheep and cattle during the 2001 outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease. He also predicted that up to 150,000 people could die. There were fewer than 200 deaths. . . .
In 2002, Ferguson predicted that up to 50,000 people would likely die from exposure to BSE (mad cow disease) in beef. In the U.K., there were only 177 deaths from BSE.
In 2005, Ferguson predicted that up to 150 million people could be killed from bird flu. In the end, only 282 people died worldwide from the disease between 2003 and 2009.
In 2009, a government estimate, based on Ferguson’s advice, said a “reasonable worst-case scenario” was that the swine flu would lead to 65,000 British deaths. In the end, swine flu killed 457 people in the U.K.
Last March, Ferguson admitted that his Imperial College model of the COVID-19 disease was based on undocumented, 13-year-old computer code that was intended to be used for a feared influenza pandemic, rather than a coronavirus. Ferguson declined to release his original code so other scientists could check his results. He only released a heavily revised set of code last week, after a six-week delay.

So the real scandal is: Why did anyone ever listen to this guy?"


The data just reaffirms just how bad and flawed that "science" was that we were supposed to "listen to"


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 but leave AIRPORTS and RESTAURANTS opened?


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Ferguson declined to release his original code so other scientists could check his results.
THIS IS ANTI-SCIENCE.
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“NOTICE: TO BETTER SERVE OUR CUSTOMERS, OUR STAFF WILL NOT BE WEARING MASKS. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS, PLEASE COME BACK TO US AT A TIME WHEN YOU FEEL SAFE TO COME OUT.” - THANKS