WWII Nations Mafia - DP4

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@Speedrace
If I was scum I would've killed Grey because he's the only one that wouldn't flip to Mikal

Like?? Why would I kill Supa of ALL PEOPLE?? When he was sussed more than me?

It makes even less sense for mikal to kill him though. I was pretty dead set on lynching supa. That was a free mislynch in mylo.
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@Speedrace
because you want my result to appear inaccurate and you know doctor is a safe claim and no one will cc you

so it forces the lynch on me and game is over. 


Its actually big brain as fuck



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@Lunatic
You mean day phase?
Yes

And yeah I hear you man, I am just trying to look at all possibilities here. If it were literally anyone else I'd be voting mikal right away.
Oh ok understood, I thought you were just gonna blindly vote me and I was freaking out lol
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I would literally have left supa up and pushed him this dp


thats what im saying. He wanted supa gone because its easy to get a lynch on me and end the game
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@whiteflame
VTL Elm

For all that Speed has been behaving oddly, I still have a hard time seeing him as sus. However, with Oro turning up innocent, this is an easy choice. Don't think there's any chance we have a Sensor at this stage.

whiteflame keep in mind this is now MYLO if there is 2 scum left. We mis lynch we lose here. Also we said the same thing about a hated and miller not being able to exist together. We should talk this through. 
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@Lunatic
That was a free mislynch in mylo.
Mikal hinted at me last DP that he didn't believe that I was just 2x, so I think he was worried about the kill failing
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oh btw I strengthened whiteflame last night. Not sure my role is useful anymore, but whiteflame is confirmed town so I figured why not
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@Reece101
All the evidence points to Mikal. Please vote Mikal
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This is actually proven ffs

i have 2 votes on me and wf is a town lock

if speed is town, i would be getting hammered right now. so its 100 percent him

the other scum could hammer this
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@whiteflame
take off your vote, if another random votes comes through and its not the scum. Last scum hammers and we lose. At least think before you throw

pls
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@Elminster
if speed is town, i would be getting hammered right now. so its 100 percent him
But if you're scum, scum isn't gonna hammer you

...?
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@Lunatic
Alright, I'll unvote for now.

Also... yeah, unfortunately strengthening my role wouldn't do you any good.
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@Elminster
if speed is town, i would be getting hammered right now. so its 100 percent him
Also how do you know that there are two scum
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@whiteflame
hes literally begging for people to vote, im telling you game is about to end if we dont watch it. Get your vote off


i know you are a town lock by the cc. 
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@Speedrace
its either 8 /3 or a tp


its very likely 8/3 


a third scum role is the only way to explain all this fuckery instead of a tp. One role to do all this cant be that powerful 
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Elminster: "hE'S lItERAllY bEGGinG fOR pEOple tO voTE"

Also Elminster: begs people to vote
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@Speedrace
of course im begging for people to vote

you are fucking scum

you know exactly what you are doing, you want votes on me so someone can hammer
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@Elminster
hes literally begging for people to vote
"of course im begging for people to vote

you are fucking scum

you know exactly what you are doing, you want votes on me so someone can hammer"
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VOTE COUNT:
Intelligence_06 [Elminster] (1/4) - Speedrace,
Speedrace (1/4) - Elminster,

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so it's mikal or speedrace. If we are wrong we lose the game. 

If it's speedrace the last scum is between me and reece, if its mikal I guess it would have to be greyparrot based on behavior, but could be wrong on that. 

Supa's death feels wierd. I don't see mikal doing it, or I don't understand why he would. That's the main problem I have with mikal. The main problem I have with speed is the self visit on the watcher report. What roles do scum even have that self visit other than lawyer? and why lawyer if you know the cop is dead and janitored?
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Supa was such a mislynch target... Literally I would have lost us the game if scum kept us alive. I'd be on him right now honest to god. Why tf did scum kill him?! This is mind fvcking me. 
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Evidence I'm town

1. I claimed to doc myself, Supa said he saw me doc myself.
2. Scum has either a fake character or role, so if I was scum I'd have to pull doc or America out of thin air but I NEVER take risks like that

Evidence Mikal is scum

1. Changed claim from sensor to even-night sensor
2. Said I'm scum because I'm begging for votes, while literally begging for votes
3. Acts exactly like he did in The Stand
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scum kept him alive*
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@whiteflame
I have to make my case to you

from your poe it's either me or speed


If you re read the last dp and how irrational he acted, it should be pretty obvious. And look what hes doing now. Hes wanting votes to go on me to have someone hammer and end the game instead of talking.  I'm not fully sure how to explain the miller because we don't know what pie was / what roles mafia have. For all we know pie was a cop, and both sensor and cop are in the game to counter a powerful mafia. There is to much coulds or maybes

what I know is I have a result on 3 people, and hes the last one of those 3. 


He killed supa to play the doc claim vs me and auto win


as scum

there is no situation in where i kill supa here. I go for you because you are confirmed, or go for him and take the 50/50 between you  and then push a lynch on supa




this is so fucking obvious it hurts
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supa did not se him self doc ffs

supa saw him visit himself, any role that is used on yourself would pick that up. The nk was also prob waived there to give credence to the doc claim. Its why supa saw no one else 
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@MisterChris
I VTL Lunatic
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@whiteflame
I'd be on him right now honest to god. - Lunatic
Also just want to say I told you so, we'd need 4 votes for Mikal and had Supa not died, we wouldn't have those because Luna self-admits he'd be on Supa like I predicted. And obviously Grey wouldn't switch

Saying this mainly so you can stop saying I was being irrational
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@Lunatic
this is literally what im saying ffs

there is no world that I dont leave supa alive as scum


its an easy push this dp
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@whiteflame
You played as scum with speed recently. How do you think his behavior matches up based on what he said in the discord vs the mafia thread to how it looks here? Do you think he's capable of big braining waiving the night kill and visiting himself in hopes supa would watch him? 

My worry is how fast he jumped to the conclusion of ninja and stuck with it. Seems like a pretty wild guess but for him to be town here that would have to be true. He seemed to just know a ninja happened, and that is bugging me. thoughts?
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VOTE COUNT:
Intelligence_06 [Elminster] (1/4) - Speedrace,
Speedrace (1/4) - Elminster,
Lunatic (1/4) - Reece101,