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A few new users DM me every now and then. I point them to DCraft.
I’ve also been accepting debates so internet archive could document those users.
Part of a project I’m working on to preserve as much of this site as possible.
What would be an example of a real life trolly problem?
A real-life trolley problem can be seen in medical triage, where a limited number of resources forces a doctor to choose which patients to treat, knowing that inaction or a choice will result in some people dying to save others
. Another example is the Chernobyl disaster, where a government decision to spray radioactive clouds to make rain fall on less populated areas saved millions in the city but caused severe radiation poisoning in a smaller, nearby population. These scenarios force difficult choices where any action or inaction has a negative consequence, and the best possible outcome involves a painful trade-off.
I still come to this site to see if any activity happens. Still cant figure out what happened to owner of this site, and how is site still functioning without owner. Who pays the site's domain? And why? I am happy that site is still alive, I just cant figure out story behind it.
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@UltimateTrueKorea
I will keep you updated. I am still very active here.
I mostly post here just for the, Most active members listing.
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@Lemming
They are the most interesting.
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@Lemming
Read your thoughts on nihilism.
To expand + other thoughts:
For the true nihilism that says nothing matters, its devout followers just commit suicide, because life is meaningless. The problem? Then suicide matters to them. Then living (dying) like a nihilist matters. Then the concept of nihilism matters. That’s the self contradiction.
But the active nihilism mentioned earlier. It probably leads to the type of nihilist that most are.
The common nihilist I see is someone who just does what they feel like. This typically results in them just following the herd in society, since going outside of it tends to come with social punishment. It just ends up being moral subjectivism.
Maybe if someone with an ego becomes a nihilist, it could lead to moral objectivism. Probably a twisted version of it.
Am I making sense?
You are a twisted nihilist.
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@Mharman
You're making sense yeah,
Heh,
The idea of an unbounded Nihilist just following the herd, though I think is funny, I think is also true.
I've never actually read Nietzsche, but I've heard people talk about his idea of the Übermensch, Overman.
. . .
Which I'm going to assume without strong reasons to,
Is the idea of someone not bounded by societal norms/values/mindless following of expected behavior.
Though I can imagine such an idea to an extent, I'm doubtful one 'can ever truly be free of the influence of one's experiences.
Even if one chose to mindwipe oneself and start with a random number generated life.
Such was chosen, came about due to previous experiences.
. . .
Still, having a 'reason for why someone does something, other than 'just tradition, can often be found in various religious books.
Though I think they mention such 'more, of traditions that warp or are harmful.
In the Bible, I think Jesus criticized some legalistic traditions of his time.
The Tao Te Ching frequently seems to argue that whatever is spoken is not 'The 'Way, and that people need to 'think about various things the book talks about.
Which I take as acknowledgement that words and ideas warp,
Though maybe the book takes the view that there are objective ideas and ideals that are correct, and might be discovered by those who look for them.
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“When you wake up in the morning, tell yourself: the people I deal with today will be meddling, ungrateful, arrogant, dishonest, jealous and surly. They are like this because they can't tell good from evil. But I have seen the beauty of good, and the ugliness of evil, and have recognized that the wrongdoer has a nature related to my own - not of the same blood and birth, but the same mind, and possessing a share of the divine. And so none of them can hurt me. No one can implicate me in ugliness. Nor can I feel angry at my relative, or hate him. We were born to work together like feet, hands and eyes, like the two rows of teeth, upper and lower. To obstruct each other is unnatural. To feel anger at someone, to turn your back on him: these are unnatural.”
― Marcus Aurelius, Meditations
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Lastly a Zen Buddhist story (I think),
A senior monk and a junior monk were traveling together. At one point, they came to a river with a strong current. As the monks were preparing to cross the river, they saw a very young and beautiful woman also attempting to cross. The young woman asked if they could help her cross to the other side.
The two monks glanced at one another because they had taken vows not to touch a woman.
Then, without a word, the older monk picked up the woman, carried her across the river, placed her gently on the other side, and carried on his journey.
The younger monk couldn’t believe what had just happened. After rejoining his companion, he was speechless, and an hour passed without a word between them.
Two more hours passed, then three, finally the younger monk could contain himself any longer, and blurted out “As monks, we are not permitted a woman, how could you then carry that woman on your shoulders?”
The older monk looked at him and replied, “Brother, I set her down on the other side of the river, why are you still carrying her?”
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@Lemming
Nihilism in modern society manifests as
a cultural skepticism toward established norms, often leading to apathy, cynicism, and a sense of meaninglessness. It arises from disillusionment with traditional institutions, and its influence can be seen in media, art, and everyday life, where detachment and the pursuit of fleeting "fun" can replace genuine connection and purpose. Some view this as a negative cultural malaise, while others see it as a potential precursor to extremism or a source of anxiety in the face of perceived societal collapse.
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@Lemming
All good stories and quotes.
Try reading John Paul Sartre and Nietzsche to improve your nihilism.