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Stability has been restored.
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A few new users DM me every now and then. I point them to DCraft.
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I’ve also been accepting debates so internet archive could document those users.

Part of a project I’m working on to preserve as much of this site as possible.
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What would be an example of a real life trolly problem?
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A real-life trolley problem can be seen in medical triage, where a limited number of resources forces a doctor to choose which patients to treat, knowing that inaction or a choice will result in some people dying to save others
. Another example is the Chernobyl disaster, where a government decision to spray radioactive clouds to make rain fall on less populated areas saved millions in the city but caused severe radiation poisoning in a smaller, nearby population. These scenarios force difficult choices where any action or inaction has a negative consequence, and the best possible outcome involves a painful trade-off. 

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I still come to this site to see if any activity happens. Still cant figure out what happened to owner of this site, and how is site still functioning without owner. Who pays the site's domain? And why? I am happy that site is still alive, I just cant figure out story behind it.
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I will keep you updated. I am still very active here.
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I mostly post here just for the, Most active members listing.
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They are the most interesting.
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@Lemming
Read your thoughts on nihilism.

To expand + other thoughts:

For the true nihilism that says nothing matters,  its devout followers just commit suicide, because life is meaningless. The problem? Then suicide matters to them. Then living (dying) like a nihilist matters. Then the concept of nihilism matters. That’s the self contradiction.

But the active nihilism mentioned earlier. It probably leads to the type of nihilist that most are.

The common nihilist I see is someone who just does what they feel like. This typically results in them just following the herd in society, since going outside of it tends to come with social punishment. It just ends up being moral subjectivism.

Maybe if someone with an ego becomes a nihilist, it could lead to moral objectivism. Probably a twisted version of it.

Am I making sense?
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You are a twisted nihilist.
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You're making sense yeah,
Heh,
The idea of an unbounded Nihilist just following the herd, though I think is funny, I think is also true.

I've never actually read Nietzsche, but I've heard people talk about his idea of the Übermensch, Overman.
. . .

Which I'm going to assume without strong reasons to,
Is the idea of someone not bounded by societal norms/values/mindless following of expected behavior.

Though I can imagine such an idea to an extent, I'm doubtful one 'can ever truly be free of the influence of one's experiences.
Even if one chose to mindwipe oneself and start with a random number generated life.
Such was chosen, came about due to previous experiences.
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Still, having a 'reason for why someone does something, other than 'just tradition, can often be found in various religious books.
Though I think they mention such 'more, of traditions that warp or are harmful.

In the Bible,  I think Jesus criticized some legalistic traditions of his time.

The Tao Te Ching frequently seems to argue that whatever is spoken is not 'The 'Way, and that people need to 'think about various things the book talks about.
Which I take as acknowledgement that words and ideas warp,
Though maybe the book takes the view that there are objective ideas and ideals that are correct, and might be discovered by those who look for them.

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“When you wake up in the morning, tell yourself: the people I deal with today will be meddling, ungrateful, arrogant, dishonest, jealous and surly. They are like this because they can't tell good from evil. But I have seen the beauty of good, and the ugliness of evil, and have recognized that the wrongdoer has a nature related to my own - not of the same blood and birth, but the same mind, and possessing a share of the divine. And so none of them can hurt me. No one can implicate me in ugliness. Nor can I feel angry at my relative, or hate him. We were born to work together like feet, hands and eyes, like the two rows of teeth, upper and lower. To obstruct each other is unnatural. To feel anger at someone, to turn your back on him: these are unnatural.”
― Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

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Lastly a Zen Buddhist story (I think),

A senior monk and a junior monk were traveling together. At one point, they came to a river with a strong current. As the monks were preparing to cross the river, they saw a very young and beautiful woman also attempting to cross. The young woman asked if they could help her cross to the other side.
The two monks glanced at one another because they had taken vows not to touch a woman.
Then, without a word, the older monk picked up the woman, carried her across the river, placed her gently on the other side, and carried on his journey.
The younger monk couldn’t believe what had just happened. After rejoining his companion, he was speechless, and an hour passed without a word between them.

Two more hours passed, then three, finally the younger monk could contain himself any longer, and blurted out “As monks, we are not permitted a woman, how could you then carry that woman on your shoulders?”
The older monk looked at him and replied, “Brother, I set her down on the other side of the river, why are you still carrying her?”

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Nihilism in modern society manifests as 
a cultural skepticism toward established norms, often leading to apathy, cynicism, and a sense of meaninglessness. It arises from disillusionment with traditional institutions, and its influence can be seen in media, art, and everyday life, where detachment and the pursuit of fleeting "fun" can replace genuine connection and purpose. Some view this as a negative cultural malaise, while others see it as a potential precursor to extremism or a source of anxiety in the face of perceived societal collapse. 

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All good stories and quotes.
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Try reading John Paul Sartre and Nietzsche to improve your nihilism.
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Nihilism is unique in a way, that truth nihilism is such that it believes truth doesnt exist.

Moral nihilism believes morals dont exist.

Value nihilism believes values are meaningless.

Nihilism is just the most honest position once person understands the world, but nihilism as nihilism is also the most harmful position. People need delusions, so nihilism on its own isnt enough. Nihilism just lets you remove all other delusions so you select the one which suits you more.
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Nihilism believes values don’t exist. Then it tries to create a world without values which leads to delusion.
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“Give me liberty or give me death.” -Patrick Henry

In the event of an extremely authoritarian government lie the British of the past, how many Americans would rebel today? I get the sense we’re a lot more cowardly.
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Actually, government has brainwashed people to support being authoritarian by using old tactic "its them, not us" and "security is priority".

Basically, person has less reason to rebel if others lose freedom and he gains freedom, or if he thinks he gains security when losing own freedom.

Government deploys tactic "harm one to please another", so for every person harmed, another is pleased.

Also, government teaches that losing freedom is "for your own good and security."

"We need to abolish this freedom to have security." - and that logic goes so far.

People dont rebel against authoritarian government, they enable it. Its the smarter minority which rebels usually.
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Trump is doing the Samar thing by making the small group of billionaires part of the government partners. That even includes billionaires from other countries like Saudi Arabia.
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I learned recently that most non-Americans get their news about America from CNN. Yikes!
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Sorry fixed typo.
Trump is doing the Smart thing by making the small group of billionaires part of the government partners. That even includes billionaires from other countries like Saudi Arabia.
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It's actually crazy how we can't have nuclear power because the Soviets couldn't keep their massive shitbox maintained.

Goes to show how one event can create paranoia that leads to pure hysteria.
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The coronavirus of 2020 is another example.
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My favorite color is blue. Very common. I wonder if there's any interesting psychology behind favorite colors.
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The psychology behind favorite colors 
links them to our deep-seated emotions, memories, personality, and culture, with theories like Ecological Valence Theorysuggesting we prefer colors associated with positive life experiences (like blue for clear skies/water). While not absolute science, colors evoke consistent responses (yellow for optimism, red for energy) and can reveal subconscious needs or traits, but individual context, culture (white as mourning in Asia vs. purity in the West), and even body temperature play significant roles, making preferences deeply personal. 

Key Factors Influencing Color Preferences:
  • Personal Experiences & Memories: A color might become a favorite because it's linked to a happy childhood memory (a pink room) or a peaceful place (forest green).
  • Ecological Valence Theory (EVT): This theory posits that we like colors because of the average positive feelings we associate with things of that color (e.g., blue for the sky, green for nature).
  • Personality Traits: Some studies link traits like conscientiousness (light blue) or agreeableness (yellow) to specific color preferences, though results vary.
  • Cultural Context: Meaning shifts dramatically; white means purity in the West but mourning in parts of Asia.
  • Biological & Environmental Factors: A person's internal body temperature (warmer people preferring cooler colors) or even their gender can influence choices. 

Common Color Associations:
  • Blue: Calm, trust, stability (linked to sky, water).
  • Red: Energy, passion, action, excitement (used for calls-to-action).
  • Yellow: Happiness, optimism, creativity, but can also signal caution.
  • Green: Nature, growth, balance, healing.
  • Purple/Violet: Royalty, luxury, spirituality, creativity. 

In Summary:
Your favorite color isn't just a random choice; it's a window into your subconscious, shaped by positive/negative life events, cultural background, and even your physical state, making it a unique part of your personal story. 


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It's actually crazy how we can't have nuclear power because the Soviets couldn't keep their massive shitbox maintained.

Solar panels and those other renewable are mostly useless. At some point, country has to switch to nuclear power, because coal runs out, and other means of producing electricity are more flawed and expensive. But radioactive waste from nuclear power plants is a big issue.
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Waste is stored in barrels lined with lead and stone. There’s no worries there.

There’s not a concern with nuclear that engineers haven’t figured out.
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Yes, nuclear waste remains a significant global issue due to its extreme radioactivity, requiring safe storage for thousands of years, with challenges including finding permanent disposal sites (like deep geological repositories), ensuring transport safety, managing costs, and public acceptance, despite ongoing efforts and debates over solutions like recycling or advanced reactor designs. While some argue for alternatives or better management, the industry struggles with long-term, fail-safe strategies for high-level waste. 

Key Challenges
  • Longevity: Spent fuel remains dangerously radioactive for tens of thousands of years, demanding unprecedented long-term security.
  • Disposal Dilemma: No single, universally accepted, fail-safe method for permanent disposal exists, with deep geological repositories (DGRs) being explored but facing public and technical hurdles.
  • Transportation Risks: Moving waste from reactors to storage or disposal sites carries risks, though cask designs aim to mitigate accidents.
  • Cost & Politics: The vast costs and political complexities of managing waste hinder progress, often delaying solutions.
  • Public Opposition: Communities often resist hosting waste facilities, leading to slow or stalled projects. 

Current Approaches & Debates
  • Temporary Storage: Most waste is currently stored on-site at reactors in pools or dry casks.
  • Deep Geological Repositories (DGRs): Countries like Sweden and Finland are developing DGRs, but in the U.S. and Canada, finding sites and gaining consent is difficult.
  • Recycling/Reprocessing: While technically possible to reuse some materials, it doesn't eliminate the need for long-term waste management and creates plutonium.
  • Small Modular Reactors (SMRs): While promising for energy, SMRs still produce long-lived radioactive waste, just in potentially different forms, and don't solve the core problem. 

Why It Matters
  • Environmental Threat: Improper management risks contaminating water, soil, and air.
  • Intergenerational Responsibility: Current waste creates burdens for future generations, raising ethical questions.
  • Nuclear's Future: Waste management is a major factor in the debate over nuclear energy's role in a low-carbon future, with some advocating for renewables instead. 

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@Mharman
Waste is stored in barrels lined with lead and stone. There’s no worries there.

there are worries. these barrels need to last a very very long time and be durable enough to survive natural conditions such as earthquakes for many many centuries, and preferably be stored very far from rivers, sea or civilization. My country has issues because neighboring country Croatia wants to store that radioactive waste on our border. the problem with radioactive waste is that it doesnt go away. It stays where you put it for probably 20,000 years, if not more. And no one wants that in their yard.