New Zealand weightlifter Laurel Hubbard to be first transgender athlete to compete at Olympics

You're deciding upon whether a person can compete or not depending upon any advantages they might have or not have. Before they've run at all, if it were running, for example.

It's very silly. It's the outcomes of performances or competitions being decided by a committee. 

But the other three, I'll accept. I guess where I'm headed is, do you think there is a compromise somewhere?

Or instead of banning trans-women outright it could be a case by case basis based on the individual?

The significance of those inherent advantages will vary depending on the sport, and the other advantages the trans player in question lacks.

Say there is a trans-woman basketball player who is skilled and she has those three advantages listed above. But she's short. She's 5'6. The average WNBA player is 6'0. Does that handicap create a balance for her  that makes her a fair teammate/opponent?

I would say that it could. And that's just one example, there's many different scenarios where a balance can be found. 

No. I left out the part where even after you lose muscle it’s easy to gain back because of muscle memory. Transwomen already have an inherent advantage. It’s simply unfair to the cis woman who has been practicing her entire life for this only to be defeated by a trans woman who is physiologically superior.

I disagree. They’re inherent in virtually every sport that requires any form of strength.

Trans women have more stamina contributed by their larger heart and placement of diaphragm muscles. The way you characterize it, there’s no measurable way you could make that a rule even if you wanted too. In my opinion a 5’6 trans women wouldn’t even play in the WNBA because they’re that short - a physical attribute which is unchangeable.

I disagree. Your analogy lacks merit. A 5’6 transwomen would never play in the WNBA in the first place because they’re short which is a physical attribute. Your what if scenario doesn’t work lol.

Being short is an inherent disqualifier in terms of basketball regardless of your sex at birth lol

I mean, obviously being a goalie on a soccer team and being a runner are going to rely on different advantages. The significance is going to vary.

Well, I'll help out your "opinion" a little bit here (a quick google search could have helped you out as well): Like I said, the average WNBA player tends to be 6'0 (or around there), but the shortest ever was 5'2. There have been other players 5'6 and under as well. So, you're wrong. But that's fine. My point is that short players obviously have to be very good or have benefits in other ways to counteract their lack of height. So, at what point is an advantage truly significant when there are multiple factors that determine an athlete's performance? And how significant are those advantage when the player also has clear disadvantages that most other players don't share?

Sure buddy, claim I'm the arrogant one - you have ONE example and nothing else that is even remotely valid. Why the hell would I be convinced by one example?

Sure but you have yet to convey that in this scenario. A trans woman as a goalie compared to a cis woman still holds a superior pelvic structure which allows them to jump further, kick further, etc.

I think you misunderstood my point but ig I could have been more clear. Ofc they’re going to hire people less than 6’0 lol. But my point was they’re more likely to hire a 6’0 than a 5’6 person because of the advantage conferred. My point is that a 5’6 trans women still holds advantages that even a 6’0 male doesn’t have. It’s like having a 5’6 cis male from the NBA participate in WNBA against a 6’0 cis woman. The male wins everytime because wot the body structure which allows for dunks and hard lay ups, etc. A trans woman still brings this advantage conferred in men to a cis woman sport.

Everyone knows the reason why trans women choose to compete in cis women sports is cause it’s easier. Gender identity is only a ridiculous justification for it. And as RM mentioned, a disgrace to every aspect of women’s rights and sports.

 for the same reason trans-men want to compete in cis-male sports.

The latter lose and are outperformed, always, 100% of the time. You will never get a Laurel Hubbard of the reverse trans kind outperforming peak cis male athletes at pretty much any sport other than perhaps gymnastics.

Find me an exception, this has been allowed especially in something like Marathons (a trans man officially competed as a male).