Supreme Court Votes to overturn Roe v Wade Draft Shows.

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"The Senate will vote to protect Roe V Wade." Sooo the Supreme Court serves no purpose as the Senate can just vote to override any ruling the Supreme Court makes based not on the law but feelings. I see no point in the taxpayer funding the judicial branch of govt any longer. The Senate is both the legislative and Judicial branch of govt. The Supreme court no longer has any legal standing it is just the opinions of 9 people that can be overridden at anytime by the Senate.  The legal opinion of any judge sitting on the supreme court carries no more weight than my legal opinion. The Supreme Court no longer  decides what laws are Constitutional, the Senate does. Again what purpose does the Supreme court serve if their rulings can be overridden by the Senate? I'll wait for your legal opinion,  it carries the same weight as a Supreme Court justice.
The legislative branch does not have the power to literally protect Roe V Wade as in the ruling made by the supreme court. What they do have the power to do is enact legislation that encapsulates the ideas behind Roe v Wade (access to abortion) into law. And that should be perfectly fine as the supreme court has simply ruled that the right to abortion is not one guaranteed by the constitution. This does not bar such rights being enacted at either the federal or state level.

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The legislative branch does not have the power to literally protect Roe V Wade as in the ruling made by the supreme court. What they do have the power to do is enact legislation that encapsulates the ideas behind Roe v Wade (access to abortion) into law. And that should be perfectly fine as the supreme court has simply ruled that the right to abortion is not one guaranteed by the constitution. This does not bar such rights being enacted at either the federal or state level.
well stated
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The sole purpose of the Supreme Court is to rule on weather any legislation passed by Congress is in continuity with the Constitution. Any law passed by congress can be immediately challenged and the supreme courts sole purpose is to hear that case and rule on its Constitutionality.  If congress tries to pass a law saying all 50 states have to make abortion legal it will be immediately be sent back to the supreme court and most likely lose. It's a state right issue and bad law to begin with in my opinion. The constitution does not say anywhere that woman have a right to an abortion. It doesn't say that because abortion is a first world modern luxury convenience. Not to mention the fact that you would have to force any doctor anywhere to perform that abortion making them slaves to govt. You cant force another person to work for you against their will to exercise a right.

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Not to mention the fact that you would have to force any doctor anywhere to perform that abortion
even a dentist ?
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Make abortion illegal, make women felons, felons can't vote, women can't vote. 
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Make abortion illegal, make women felons, felons can't vote, women can't vote. 
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Then you are pro-child dismemberment which is a sad worldview to have. How can you justify killing unborn human beings in the womb at any time and for any reason? Your position sickens my heart.
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Let's talk morality shall we.

You imply anyone denying a woman the right to kill her unborn at any time for any reason is immoral and wrong because its her body, her choice, her decision.
Do you also believe that other laws that keep people from using their bodies the way they want to use them should be done away with because it should be up to the person?  Examples: Any kind of incest? Using any drug of ones choice and selling drugs to people who might want to take them? Any kind of sex act with any person of any age who wants to partake? Doing away with seatbelt laws, helmet laws? Assisted suicide? Suicide? Selling a body part? Nudity anywhere? Prostitution? No alcohol laws. Abortion for any reason..even for sex selection, gender issues? 

The fact is the government tells us what we can do with our bodies and abortion is no different because many issues deal with morality and providing a safe moral society to live in. Trouble today...there is no line of morality anymore...everything goes. How livable is a society that allows someone to just do anything they want to do?
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So you hate abortion....why? Whats wrong with it?

If it is wrong why do you tolerate something you think is immoral? Would you do this with child-trafficking? Child or spousal abuse? Underage drinking? 

What would you stand up against if not abortion?

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So you hate abortion....why?
Because it goes against my partiality to the family concept.

If it is wrong why do you tolerate something you think is immoral?
Never said it was wrong or immoral.

Would you do this with child-trafficking?
No. But unfortunately its occurrence is not subject to my tolerance.

Child or spousal abuse?
No. But unfortunately its occurrence is not subject to my tolerance.

Underage drinking? 
I personally oppose all drinking, but what one consumes is subject to one's discretion.

What would you stand up against if not abortion?
Taxes
Welfare
Central Banks
Governments
United Nations
Council of Foreign Affairs
Luciferianism
Socialism
Crony Corporatism
Fiat Money
Prison Industrial Complex
Military Industrial Complex
American Medical Association
Human-Trafficking
Rape
Liberal Media
Hollywood
Disney
Globalization
Public Education
Feminsim/MGTOW
Unions
Government designations of so-called, "race."
Reality Television
Pornography
Alcoholism
Pork
"Sugar-free" Anything
Fluoride Toothpaste
Project MK Ultra... and many more...






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What is your family concept?


Taxes
Welfare
Central Banks
Governments
United Nations
Council of Foreign Affairs
Luciferianism
Socialism
Crony Corporatism
Fiat Money
Prison Industrial Complex
Military Industrial Complex
American Medical Association
Human-Trafficking
Rape
Liberal Media
Hollywood
Disney
Globalization
Public Education
Feminsim/MGTOW
Unions
Government designations of so-called, "race."
Reality Television
Pornography
Alcoholism
Pork
"Sugar-free" Anything
Fluoride Toothpaste
Project MK Ultra... and many more...


You indicated abortion might not be immoral. But your list is all over the place. Let's get down to brass tacks. I won't even address some of the things on that list. They are not in the same category as abortion.

What is abortion? It is the premeditated killing of a living human being. And today Democrats want all abortions legal...even full term up until the natural delivery of the baby. They don't even want babies saved should they survive a botched abortion. They don't even want pain meds administered to the unborn before they are ripped from their mothers wombs. To do so would be admitting that the unborn is a person. They can't do that.

The fact that you can't admit that this is absolutely barbaric is unbelievable. I can't wrap my head around your kind of logic. You stand up for toothpaste but sit and do nothing while the slaughter continues. 
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You imply anyone denying a woman the right to kill her unborn at any time for any reason is immoral and wrong because its her body, her choice, her decision.
Thats correct i.e. you have nor moral authority to be sticking your nose in the pregnant womens bodily business.


...The fact is the government tells us what we can do with our bodies and abortion is no different...
Yes it is as all of long list is irrelevant to a pregnant womans right to privacy about an orgnaism of her body.  Even the man who inseminated her. has not any rights to her organism, because, he gave here his semen. 

If he sold her his semen, and has a contract to have the baby birthed, that is whole other can of worms.

....because many issues deal with morality and providing a safe moral society to live in......
And all of them are differrent issues in their own right of consideration of circumstances.

Trouble today...there is no line of morality anymore...everything goes. How livable is a society that allows someone to just do anything they want to do?
every one has their personal set of morality that often changes over time.  Your morality thinks it is ok of you to stick your nose into a pregnant womans bodily business, regarding an organsim of here body.  Your your type are repulsive and immoral at best and at worst..........

PLease stick you nose where and belongs and keep it out of pregnants womens bodies. thank you.

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‘Thats correct i.e. you have nor moral authority to be sticking your nose in the pregnant womens bodily business.’

So you tell me I have no right…while you do the same to me. Based on what you said…you could not believe in any moral policing agency. 
Do you have the right to defend a child whose parent is abusing them?
Did the North have any right to go to war with the South to help free the slaves?
Why did anyone have the right to hunt Osama Bin Laden down and seek revenge?
And Charles Manson really did not kill anyone ..he should never have been prisoned for it.  

“Yes it is as all of long list is irrelevant to a pregnant womans right to privacy about an orgnaism of her body.  Even the man who inseminated her. has not any rights to her organism, because, he gave here his semen.” 

It is something in her body but not apart of it. Unfortunately the father has no rights, not even if she wants the child and seeks for child support. If she owns the child like you say…he should not be held liable for anything. Right?

“every one has their personal set of morality that often changes over time.  Your morality thinks it is ok of you to stick your nose into a pregnant womans bodily business, regarding an organsim of here body.  Your your type are repulsive and immoral at best and at worst……….”

So abortion is wrong one day and ok the next? Substitute rape or pediphelia or spousal abuse for abortion…and you would agree they all should be legal to make everyone happy? And based on your worldview…no one should stop anyone from doing what they want. Right and wrong are in the eye of the beholder. 
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A zygote is a human being just as my fingernail is a human being. Clip clip clip.
 

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Are you another selective moralist?

Or are you a hermit that lives in a remote cave,

Who only absorbs water and nutrients from stalactites.


Death sustains life.......It's the inevitability of survival.

And only caring about human life, is human bias.

And only caring about certain foetuses and certain people is hypocritical.


And don't quote the Bible

Because the Bible is awash with moral contradictions.





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Ebuc ....."‘Thats correct i.e. you have nor moral authority to be sticking your nose in the pregnant womens bodily business.’"

So you tell me I have no right…while you do the same to me.
False.  You are not a pregnant woman and I am not sticking my nose into you bodily business regarding and oganism of you body. YOur confused at best and at worst......concepts that stem from dark ages and further regarding control of women by men. Sick.

Based on what you said…you could not believe in any moral policing agency. 
YOur still very confused person. Sad :--(

It is something in her body but not apart of it.

For a brief period of time the egg, fertilized or not, travels in fallopian tubes.  For you to insist that fertilized egg is not an organism of the pregnant woman is more false narrative on your part and all of the sic-n-the-heads out their whose ego can not acccept the truth, regarding the rights of pregnant womans bodily business, unless she give her consent for others put their noses into her bodily business.

You have nothing of any validity to offer on this topic. Please keep stop your virtual rape of pregnant by keeping friggin nose out of pregnant w.omans bodily affairs. Please and than you

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I think the real fear is a state in the union that is a conservative version of California that would show contrast and outcome of conservative vs liberal leftist govt policies.
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Slavery’s profitable too wasn’t/isn’t it?
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Not worth a response
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Well what’s the contrast you’re looking for? 
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So its your honest and willful belief that a conservative state would employ slavery as one of its tenants?  You got some pretty sad fucked up indoctrinated ideas about conservatism.
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So its your honest and willful belief that a conservative state would employ slavery as one of its tenants? 
The virtual rapist is just another attempt to control women,   and in this case, pregnant women specifically ergo, a form of slavery indeed.  Sick.

Whats sad is virtual rapists sticking their nose into a pregnant woman's bodily business without her consent. Sick.

Various reasons why we have these virtual rapists:

1} religious fanaticism stemming from biblical partriachal society, ---men controlling women---,

2} intellectual short comings and their ego needs a band wagon to jump onto,   ---some poor folk---,

3} intellectual boredom creates an interesting challenge irrespective of truth,   ---too much money and too much time on their hands---,

...3a} is ignorant or chooses to ignore, the  global truths facing humanity, and this is lazy way out of complex issues, that, go to the heart of complexities that stem from pregnant women, birth control and overpopluation of humans on Earth ---for the operatings systems currently in place---.


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And you making  stuff up the people never said sickens my heart but who gives a crap we don't even know each other.
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"don't quote the Bible
Because the Bible is awash with moral contradictions."

I'm not sure that's really a reason to not quote something,
I mean Star Wars has moral contradictions, doesn't mean I'm not going to quote it,
People in history have moral contradictions, they make witty statements at times.

One uses a quote because in the context of a conversation, the words fit,
In evoking emotion or logic.



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So its your honest and willful belief that a conservative state would employ slavery as one of its tenants?  You got some pretty sad fucked up indoctrinated ideas about conservatism.
Indentured servitude is okay in Christianity right?