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Im i going to get laughed at if i ask.
Is a mans anus and a womens the same ?
Who said.
The best thing about having sex with a women is you can turn them around and have sex with a man
Oral sex through a gloryhole reminds me a little like schrodingers cat.
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@YouFound_Lxam
And XXXY?
Either way, you’re cherry picking desperately because you dislike the English language. The same source you use for gender, defines women as anyone who identifies as a woman regardless of the sex they were assigned at birth.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Soooo one can be tricked into homosexual sex.
Yes, if you’re attracted to slender humans with breasts without first doing a DNA test, you’re gay! (Err… at least bi)
Funny thing, one of my best friends is technically a trans woman with XY chromosomes. She was assigned male at birth, but identifies as a woman. Anyone looking at her would think she’s a woman. She’s also really hot, so without their knowledge she turns straight men gay, and lesbians straight.
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@Barney
And XXXY?
Male.
"48,XXXY syndrome is a type of chromosome abnormality characterized by the presence of 2 extra X chromosomes in males."
Any more questions?
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@YouFound_Lxam
According to Oxford (your own cherry picked source), XY can be male or female based on how they identify.
Your own fallacious appeal to authority proves you’re wrong.
Your problem is one of not being familiar enough with the English language. The language didn’t become fixed in the 1700’s, rather it evolves based on usage.
The dictionary is a slave to pop culture. The meaning of a word can change like you change your under ware.
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@TWS1405_2
Think of it like a motor conveyance.Sex is the make, gender is the model.
This is the worst analogy I think I've ever seen.
If sex is the make (let's say Ford is Female and Mazda is Male), then how is there only 2 genders? The Escape, Escort, Mustang, Explorer, Taurus, these are all genders that fit under the F sex. And what makes a Ford a Ford? is it the engine? the body? what about the Mazda B series and Ford Ranger, which were practically identical other than the badge?
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@K_Michael
Well, that explains little of your intellectual cowardice.
It is a PERFECT analogy. Clown.
You read into it and made a mountain out of a mole hill. Jack ass.
What I said stand factually accurate. Make and model to the human species is two. It’s one or the other. Can’t be made as one and then conveyed to another. It’s scientifically, physiologically, biologically, psychologically, and legally impossible.
So fuck off with your stupidity.
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@TWS1405_2
An exhaust is an exhaust.
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@Reece101
Nope. False equivalency fallacy. Clown.
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@Barney
According to Oxford (your own cherry picked source), XY can be male or female based on how they identify.
No, it says:
"state of being male or female as expressed by social or cultural distinctions and differences"
Meaning:
It is the expression of the state of being male or female, based on your biological sex.
You can express yourself however you would like, but you can't change your gender. You can be a feminine boy, and a masculine girl, but you can't switch it entirely.
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@Barney
Rare doesn't mean non-existent. You might as well say it's absolutely impossible for dogs to bite, since it only rarely happens.
I never
understood the point of asking about the XXXY chromosomic pattern in regards to
the gender debate - it's akin to asking about 3rd trimester abortions as a pro
life reductio, or rape and incest case as a pro choice reductio. Ultimately,
you don't just believe that those with
chromosomic anomalies ought to be able to identify as genders other than the
one assigned biologically - I would wager that you believe XX can be men and XY
can be women. Why not talk about these far more common scenarios which society
currently deals with, as opposed to how we ought to classify the one anomaly.
And in regards to the "rare is not nonexistent" comment, this in no way removes the binary in fact it is what can be identified as an exception which proves the rule. When one brings up anomalies - a woman who cannot bear children, a
woman within certain biological complexions - the fact that doctors can identify that there is an issue proves that there is an archetype which functions as a binary. A woman is still a woman if she cannot bear children - if she goes to the docters, that they identfy an issue proves this. A doctor will not tell a woman "well perhaps you are non binary" because biologically, no such thing exists.
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@TWS1405_2
An exhaust is an exhaust.Nope. False equivalency fallacy. Clown.
It takes a clown to know a clown. Clown
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@sadolite
You should ask, what is the derivative of the number of genders in respect to time? Because you shouldn't underestimate how "productive" modern-day liberal individuals are online.
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@Bones
I never understood the point of asking about the XXXY chromosomic pattern in regards to the gender debate
My precise knowledge of the sex of that chromosome was lackluster. Gender of course for anyone literate is not assured to be determined by that.
I would wager that you believe XX can be men and XY can be women.
Generally speaking, XX can be a trans-man, and XY can be a trans-woman. Ignoring rare ones with odd development cycles of course (XY presenting externally as a woman, and assigned female at birth for example... I don't know how I would classify that).
I don't believe trans is the same as cis, and generally speaking I would rather not have to spell out cis when it's the most common arrangement.
Why not talk about these far more common scenarios which society currently deals with, as opposed to how we ought to classify the one anomaly.
I was attempting to engage with someone in their arguments own terms. Since God (if you believe in that, otherwise just nature) made true intersexed people which if cis-gendered are neither male or female, it wholly disproves the absurdity of the absolutism.
Yes, pointing out rare exceptions does imply the commonality of a standard; but when trying to say therefore deviation outright does not exist because it only rarely occurs, it becomes self defeating. The same logic means anyone who ever claimed a dog bit them is lying, since it's very rare for dogs to bite, therefore it's impossible for dogs to bite (Lxam could find no defense for his logic leading to this conclusion).
Going to his arm example, if he claimed all people have two arms, it would easily be disproven due to amputees and such. Were it just most, fine, the vast majority of people have two arms, but the exception that proves the rule does not deny the existence of the exception.
A doctor will not tell a woman "well perhaps you are non binary" because biologically, no such thing exists.
You're speaking of sex, not gender. And again, even sex isn't perfectly binary (even if other formations are rare).
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@Barney
Definition is variable relative to necessity.
Can't actually make a woman a man or vice versa.
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@Barney
Yes, pointing out rare exceptions does imply the commonality of a standard; but when trying to say therefore deviation outright does not exist because it only rarely occurs, it becomes self defeating. The same logic means anyone who ever claimed a dog bit them is lying, since it's very rare for dogs to bite, therefore it's impossible for dogs to bite (Lxam could find no defense for his logic leading to this conclusion).
No one says the deviation doesn't exist - to say it doesn't exist is to say that there is no such thing as intersex, which is an absolutely stupid claim to make. The question is whether the existence of an aberration ought to entirely remove our ability to utilise sex as a sound metric of identification. To use your dog example, if 100 people were surveyed on the docility of their Labrador, and everyone reported that they were of calm temperament, whilst 2 anomalies reported aggression, it would be absurd to then say that we must remove the label "calm" as it does not account for every case. Obviously this would be stupid when one could simply cast the 2 into statistical anomalies.
Going to his arm example, if he claimed all people have two arms, it would easily be disproven due to amputees and such. Were it just most, fine, the vast majority of people have two arms, but the exception that proves the rule does not deny the existence of the exception.
Yet, if someone asked you "how many arms a human has", you would say two. Note that this does not mean you are ignoring the existence of the statistical anomaly - you are merely acting in the most productive way by referring to the majority. In much the same way, I would say their are two genders, although there can be very small deviations.
You're speaking of sex, not gender.
I frankly do not know what the purpose of gender as a means of identifying pronouns serves in any context, besides reaffirming beliefs of certain people. What is the actual purpose of "gender" besides to render the ideological frontier scientific? The word seems utterly useless - a representation of ones desire as opposed to some objective characteristic. It would be like if I created the word "aje" as a socially constructed counterpart to "age" - to do so, I would have to justify the ontological burden as necessary or at least productive in the sphere of medicine. It doesn't seem gender advocates have done such.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
You're reminded of oral sex through a gloryhole with a cat Deb.
Must be an Aussie thing.
Have you tried a koala.
According to Oxford (your own cherry picked source), XY can be male or female based on how they identify.No, it says:"state of being male or female as expressed by social or cultural distinctions and differences"Meaning:It is the expression of the state of being male or female, based on your biological sex.You can express yourself however you would like, but you can't change your gender. You can be a feminine boy, and a masculine girl, but you can't switch it entirely.
I was mistaken, it's Cambridge which defines a woman as "an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been said to have a different sex at birth"
I honestly mistook you for the type of person who watches Fox News cry about their hurt feelings (https://www.foxnews.com/media/oxford-dictionary-adds-multisexual-sistergirl-16-words-gender-identity).
Oxford offers the following definitions which make your appeal to authority self-defeating...
- gender: The state of being male or female as expressed by social or cultural distinctions and differences, rather than biological ones
each of the classes (typically masculine, feminine, neuter, common) of nouns and pronouns distinguished by the different inflections which they have and which they require in words syntactically associated with them; similarly applied to adjectives (and in some languages) verbs, to denote the appropriate form for accompanying a noun of such a class. Also: the fact, condition, or property of belonging to such a class; the classification of language in this way.any of several other analogous categories into which nouns may be divided (regardless of any connection with sex). - gender-bending: that defies or challenges traditional notions of gender, esp. in terms of dress or behaviour
- gender-bent: characterized by or relating to a change of gender; dressing and behaving in a manner characteristic of the opposite sex
- gender-fluid: not clearly or wholly male or female; androgynous
- cisgendered: Designating a person whose sense of personal identity and gender corresponds to his or her sex at birth; of or relating to such a person; not transgendered.
- transgender: Designating a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond to that person's sex at birth, or which does not otherwise conform to conventional notions of sex and gender.
- pangender: Designating a non-binary person whose gender identity encompasses multiple genders, which may be experienced simultaneously or in a fluid, fluctuating manner; of or relating to a gender identity of this type.
- Man: As a designation applied equally to particular individuals of either sex.
Admittedly, I'd prefer if that last one were not the case.
With the inclusion of the word gender-bent, Oxford affirms that gender can switch regardless of sex (it's right there on the page for gender).
Again, the English language is a fluid thing (pun intended).
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Getting deeper, there's measurable biological differences in their brains, regardless of what's in their pants: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8955456/
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@Barney
Cambridge.
Very Laissez-faire.
I like all your euphemisms too.
And when you get to my age you realise that you've been a slave to your inner procreational urges ever since your first wet dream.
Doesn't matter who does what to who during the process of satisfaction.
Then roll over and go to sleep until the next time.
And perhaps settle down in a nice apartment with a nice vegan kitchen and a cute puppy.
And suck and fuck for all you're worth, for as long as the it lasts.
Makes no difference.
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@zedvictor4
Majority of the times
One can never be to sure what's on the other side of the gloryhole. The ummm " giving " side.
I have never had a Transgender freind.
I have had some ( L ) friends
I've had some ( G ) freinds
Ive had plenty of ( B ) freinds
But no ( T's )
One day i hope to have a Transgender friend so that will be like the a complete full set of friends I've had.
Have you ever had like the complete full set zed. ?
I was thinking about ways of finding my very own Transgender friend.
I might put a add in my local paper ( LOOKING TO MEET UP WITH A TRANSGENDER )
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@Bones
In much the same way, I would say their are two genders, although there can be very small deviations.
I get what you mean about general easy references. Yes, there exist two main genders. For most purposes that's plenty. I don't have any issue with gender on questionnaires just having "other" for all outliers (while I do believe that should be there, if nothing else than just to avoid headaches).
As a debater, I'm going to bring up outliers to disprove absolute statements. Argue dogs are incapable of biting because it's rare, and I'll dig out news stories to disprove that statement. Dogs do bite, even if it's damned rare. We of course fear the breeds which can do greater harm when they bite, even while they are statistically even more unlikely to bite (fear of sharks is quite similar; they bite 72 people out of hundreds of millions of swimmers per year, and yet we're terrified of them because if they bite it's often fatal).
I don't think you're arguing genders other than male and female don't exist, but rather just making a point that we don't need to fuss about it so much. Whereas Lxam seems to believe that because outliers are rare, outliers do not exist.
I frankly do not know what the purpose of gender as a means of identifying pronouns serves in any context,
Usually it's a way to show respect. Much like me calling you Bones, because you indicated that's what you want to be called.
At my last job I had a co-worker who preferred to be referred to by they/them pronouns. While I do not see a need to list my preferred pronouns due to them being obvious, theirs were not obvious and they got upset when they were referred to as he/him; therefore I had them add a pronoun line to their email signature to efficiently solve the problem. To insist on referring to them as he/him, would have added needless friction in the workplace, thus making it unprofessional (I troll people online; I do not troll my co-workers).
All that said; I will admit that I disagree with complaints over assuming someone's gender. If 99% of the time it's correct, it should be on the individual who differs to alert anyone. Granted, if someone is androgenous, I will likely inquire should the need arise.
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@zedvictor4
a slave to your inner procreational urges ever since your first wet dream.Doesn't matter who does what to who during the process of satisfaction.
That reminds me, have you heard of The Right Stuff?
It's a conservative dating app exclusively for male-sexed people who wish to birth kids together and do not believe in the existence of multiple genders (not to be confused with insistence on there being just two, but outright disbelieve in genders at all).
Better yet, they insist anyone who isn't on it "ain't conservative."
What te hell.
Apparently these trans freinds only want to meet at public toilets in a park somewhere real real late at at night.
That sounds a little sketchy hey.
Not sure what thats about.
Maybe i worded my search wrong.
I might add , for non sexual relations.
Nope.
Trans freinds only meet late at nights " hook ups "
Just finished a debate on if there are exactly two genders or not:
A few more google searches later.
Where do trans persons come from
Apparently Transgender people come from your average normal people.
I can probably make my very own trans freind.
Google search ( how do you create a Transgender person out of a normal person ? )
5 hours later.
Everything but a straight foward answer.
I might never befriend a full set of freinds.
Transgender freind hire services ( SEARCH ) noth8ng.
Transgender freinds for hire. ( ENTER. )
Again . Nothing.
Hang on....... Is that A business opportunity calling.
Rent out new and used Transgender folks.
Before i press ( ENTER )
Anyone care to guess the average price of a trans person for the hour?
It Can't be cheep.
Id say 40 to 50 bucks. Couldn't be no more then $80 a hour.
Do kidnapping laws and rules apply to trans people.
You wouldn't think kidnapping a Transgender person is against any laws would you?
I might swing by the public toilets at midnight and pick myself up one.
Transgender trading center in a town closes to you. ( SEARCHING )
Wow.
Nothing.
Do any of you guys have a like spare trans friend i can borrow for like a week or two. ?
I promise to take good care of them.
Feeding and cleaning up after a Transgender person . ( this part is straight foward enough )
Maybe someone on site may want to go halves in a tran friend ?
The cheapest and best option would be to, purchase your transsexual outright.
That way we own him , i mean her
PM if you are interested.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
No T's
Various other sexually deviant acquaintances though.
I would say that all of my closer friends are generally S/H.
I also know a priest or two, but you can't be sure what they get up to.
Me...I'm Z.
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@Barney
It takes all sorts.