Is abortion bad?

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This is a simple question.

Forget about the law for just a second when it comes to this.

In your opinion, do you believe that abortion is bad? 
Do you believe that the act of abortion is morally bad? 

That is the only question. 
This is opinions, and nothing to do with lawful conduct. 
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No.

EDIT: Late abortions, yes. 
Abortions at the point of conception, no. 
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Can you " perform " an abortion on someone thats not pregnant. ? 

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@YouFound_Lxam
The duration of pregnancy is generally nine months.

Not nine seconds, or nine days or nine weeks.

So some people conclude that the ethicality of abortion varies relative to the duration of time and the subsequent development of the viable mass.



So, if I was to ask you:

Irrespective of lawful conduct, are all instances of terminating a viable post natal human mass, bad.

What would your opinion be?
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Delicately and with the tongue.

Technically known as Cunniligual Abortive Therapy.

Or CAT.


Does that answer your question Deb.
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Yeah but .
No but. 

One thing is for certain.   
Im not going to google cunningual abortive therapy.  

Thats not really a thing. 
Cat. 

Anddddd. Porn hub. 



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Ok, follow up question. 

Why? 

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So how about a response.
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Abortion is bad in all cases. There is no justification for it.
Everyone who gets pregnant should give birth and raise the child.

Sometimes, when a teen gets pregnant, her parents force her to have an abortion.
Forced abortions are horrible. All abortions are bad.

Abortion is murder by definition. Sadly, we live in society where people think they can go around aborting children. Its wrong and God will punish them just like God punished all other nations that praise murder.
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Irrespective of lawful conduct, are all instances of terminating a viable post natal human mass, bad.

What would your opinion be?

But during the pregnancy, at conception, the zygote is alive biologically. That is why it can grow. It also contains human DNA, so it is a human life. 

So yes any killing of a viable post natal human mass, is bad. 

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without a doubt. abortion is evil.
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it's bad at the very least because there is a plausible argument that all abortion is murder. 

philosophically, smashing a snowball isn't smashing a snowman. so maybe killing some cells isn't killing a person. but, snowballs dont themselves create snowmen. those early cells do themselves create humans. plus those cells have all the DNA necessary to make a human and they are living cells. they are in fact a human organism, or at the very least an organism. 

so there are plausible arguments that it's not murder or wrong, but there's enough basis to call any abortion as immoral due to the uncertainty. 
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Given that the question is absent nuance, my answer will match: no.


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What is your reasoning behind this answer?

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As owners we have a broad right to do with our bodies what we want and maintain our bodily integrity as we see fit. 
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Abortion is murder by definition.
Acts of murder are by definition unlawful. Therefore when done lawfully, abortion is not murder by definition.
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@SkepticalOne
I meant the action of aborting the baby, is that wrong?

Not making it illegal, or taking away someone's ability to do something.
Not talking about laws.

Is the action of terminating a pregnancy morally wrong?
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Therefore when done lawfully, abortion is not murder by definition.
Is a false statement. Abortion is never done lawfully, since the law of life and law of God say that abortion is wrong. God's law is everywhere. The law of life is everywhere. You cannot hide yourself from the crimes you commit against the Lord. As soon as you start thinking that it is okay for you to murder your children, you sent yourself to hell.
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I've already answered that question and explained my reasoning. 
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As owners we have a broad right to do with our bodies what we want and maintain our bodily integrity as we see fit. 
I am not talking about the "right to your body argument" right now.

My only question is do you think it is morally acceptable to kill a child in the womb, and why?
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I am not talking about the "right to your body argument" right now.
I don't think the question of abortion can be separated from bodily autonomy/integrity.

My only question is do you think it is morally acceptable to kill a child in the womb, and why?
As stated previously, we get to choose who/what interacts with our bodies because we own ourselves. Is it immoral to NOT donate organs, blood, or be a human incubator? No. That's how self-ownership works. 
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Ok, follow up question. 

Why? 
Because at the point of conception, it’s a brainless body. 
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I don't understand the people keep making legal arguments when the question specifically asks about morality. It backfires too because abortion is banned in some places; I suppose they must think it is murder there.
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Who are you referring to?
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@SkepticalOne
You're not answering the question. 

Is the action of killing a fetus/embryo/zygote, or baby in the womb, morally wrong?
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Because at the point of conception, it’s a brainless body. 
What does the brain give?

The ability to think. 

What about people in a coma who don't have an ability to think. Are they not valuable?


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During the earliest stages of development, a fetus is on autopilot. It is not unconscious, it is pre-conscious. This means its consciousness does not exist. 
There is no sentience or autonomy. 

Defining 'murder' in the moral sense is both unclear and entirely subjective. But even if we were to define abortion as murder at this stage, then to be morally consistent, we'd have to consider every human being a murderer because they kill skin-cells every day. 

Coma patients are unconscious. 

  • If the coma patient demonstrates a possibility for recovery, then terminating their life could be seen as murder. Because the patient was sentient before their unresponsive state and had intended to live for longer, and did not give pre-consent to having their life ended. It’s also likely they weren’t put into a coma voluntarily and after waking up, they will still want to live on. 
  • If the head trauma for a coma patient makes the damage irreparable and the life beyond saving, then euthanizing them makes no difference anyway. 
The fetus during conception does not process thought, emotion, or demonstrate the capacity for intention. So the comparison to a coma patient is moot anyway. 

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Do you know what post natal means?


So, in all instances the taking of a human life is unjustifiable?


And I take it then, that you are an absolute pacifist, with no real guns in your cupboard.


If so, good and admirable.

If not, selectively moral like everyone else.

Save for the cave dwelling hermit who absorbs all their nutrient requirements from the atmosphere.
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@Malcharaz

Evil is a concept, often used over-dramatically for emotional effect.