Oh pulease, do gun people actually think about what they say or is it all just the NRA's Pavlovian trained dog replies?.
First, I'm not a member of the NRA.
You don't have to be, they wrote the scripts for your conditioned responses.
Second, are you likening me to a dog?
I’m likening your conditioned responsesto the conditioned responses of Ivan Pavlov’s dogs, so yeah, indirectly, I suppose I am.
A firearm is a single purpose tool,
No it isn't.
and that tool is designed to do one and only one thing, kill,
It's actually designed to discharge projectiles known as bullets.
Oh please, that’s another lame anddishonest intellectual dodge and you know it. Guns don’t kill people, bullets kill people, is a ridiculous point at best LOL
Whether these bullet cause fatal injury is primarily dependent on the actions of the user.
Oh yeah, this is where the "responsible gun ownership" mantra kicks in, you guys have been chanting that for decades. Just take a look at the numbers, you guys suck ass at being responsible gun owners.
calling it the "ordinary civilian use of firearms" is a lame intellectual dodge of the issue, nothing but a distraction.
So, is it your position that ALL USE of firearms is CRIMINAL USE? If so, explain.
No, but in the vast majority of thetime, it is illegal to shoot someone, there are very rare circumstances inwhich it is justified, but saying I get to kill someone if they are trying tokill me is very much an out of the ordinary situation.
Do you seriously believe it shouldn't matter how such a tool is used?
Yes. I could kill you with a hammer; a knife; a pen; box cutter; a bat; even a pillow. If capacity to be used in fatal injury must dictate access, then why not ban the aforementioned?
Oh boy, how profound, I’ve never heardthat one before LOL. But hey, I noticedthat nuclear weapons aren’t on your list, is it your position that we shouldn’trestrict access to nukes?
If we have 37,000 pillow deaths this year I can assure you we will take action.
Generally speaking, it is unlawful to kill people,
Why does that not dictate accountability as opposed to holding everyone accountable, lawful use or not?
Generally speaking it is unlawful tokill people, and generally speaking, what a gun is designed to do is killpeople, you really can’t connect the dots? Why shouldn’t “accountability” be enough to make nuclear weaponsavailable at Home Depot?
and that's the only thing a firearm does
That's not the only thing.
you really can't connect the dots as to why the vast number of illegal deaths merits consideration?
Why does the "vast number" of illegal deaths warrant penalizing LAWFUL USE? You're not answering my question: why does ordinary civilian use of firearms MERIT PENALTY AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THE CRIMINAL USE OF FIREARMS?
I’m answering the question, you just refuseto listen. We regulate the living hellout of dangerous products, a handful of deaths can get most products banned, weare talking about a product that last year killed 250,000 people globally, 37,000in the US, and you guys seriously want to argue that as far as regulation isconcerned, a gun should be seen as equal to a fucking pillow, its that kind of knee jerknonsense replies that are Pavlovian, that argument has about the sameintellectual content as drooling does.
I'm thinking that trumps the rights of the hobbyist who loses his right to target practice, or hunt,
Oh? So there is another purpose when using firearms?
Yes, they can also make otherwise rational intelligent people start incoherently blathering inane nonsense.
or whatever legal use that the gun culture is saying is worth so many thousands of lives.
And these hobbyists are setting out in droves killing thousands of people?
Go back and read my sentence again,slowly for comprehension this time, guns are killing thousands of people, andgun people seem to think that is an acceptable price to pay to protect yourtarget shooting hobby, try to pay attention.
Care to explain how you've reached this conclusion (some empirical data would be nice, as well.)
Empiricaldata? Are you actually debating gun controlwhile pretending to be unaware that what the entire conversation is about is gundeaths? Try this, Google gun deaths and lookat any of the twelve million web sites that can enlighten you as to what thegun control is about. I wish you guys could see how utterlymindless the Pavlovian argument looks, the rest of us see it as gun peopledrooling when they hear a bell rung.
The fact is, the real "ordinary civilian use of firearms", the reason people buy them, is they want to have the ability to kill someone,
And I presume you've spoken to every individual who has purchased a firearm about their intentions with owning, possessing, and operating said firearm? I have firearms. Do I want to kill? And keep in mind, you know better than I do what I want.
I know what guns are for, the people that buy them know what guns are for, and that’s why they buy them.
Are you saying that people who buy guns don’t know they are for, or just that they don’t know why they buy them?
When you hear that bell I think you are supposed to say we buy the gun to let people know we could kill them if we want to, so don’t make me want to.
In short, it’s a penis extension, it makes you feel manly?
Please wipe the drool off your chin, it’s unsightly.
