Guns don't kill people, people kill people

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Again, why are you here at DART?  Troll. 
To remind you that guns make it easy to kill people at A} close distance away

You should C your way out of A - B conversations. That query wasn’t even directed at you, clown. 

And poison is easier to use and kills more than a gun. 
Biological and/or nuclear agents are easier to use and kills more than a gun. 
Hands, fists and feet kill more people every year than rifles of any kind. 
There are lots of tools that are easier to use than a gun, yet you idiots focus on the big bad ugly black piece of iron. 
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Anything based on a public referendum is a privilege, and not a right.
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When the founding fathers wrote the 2nd Amendment, they were not granting permission for people to defend themselves with guns. They were acknowledging the basic human instinct of survival and freedom that exists in all people which requires no vote, and even if such a vote were taken, 100 percent of living people would have those instincts. Although they were clunky in their wording implying "god" did this and all men are "equal" in these traits, the point still stands. And since it's a basic instinct for a person to protect himself as best as they can, the government should not interfere in this basic universal human need.

The 2nd A is a restriction on government, not a privilege for the people.

If the founding fathers had foreseen what the government in California does today to restrict access to water with a State Board granting water privileges, they may have considered an amendment worded almost exactly the same way.


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If the founding fathers foresaw what happened with Obamacare, an amendment similar to the 2nd A would have been written to say that the right of the people to purchase healthcare shall not be infringed.

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Athias sounds like they are for no regulations at all.
I am sure he is opposed to babies being allowed to play with loaded firearms. 
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Again, why are you here at DART? 
You’re not contributing a damn thing. 
Troll. 
You gots to pay me respect cuz I got me a gun LOL.


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If the founding fathers knew FDR would be confiscating food grown on one's own land for their own consumption, they would have made an amendment saying the right to feed oneself shall not be infringed.
(look up Wickard V. Filburn)

The problem isn't that the 2nd amendment exists, it's the fact that it's nowhere sufficient enough on its own to promote life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
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The problem isn't that the 2nd amendment exists, it's the fact that it's nowhere sufficient enough on its own to promote life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
The solution is obvious. Monarchy. A royal family that is above the stupid fucking masses who are easily influenced by the wind and corporate media. 
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We already have a pre-selected monarchy that is controlled by the noble court of corporations.
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Corporations running a government is a path to endless wars and endless trade wars.

Bothered by competition from China? Support the candidate who promises to tax them the most!

Need to sell more weapons? Support a candidate who promises to buy your weapons and send them to Ukraine, preferably while increasing other military spendings too.
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There are lots of tools that are easier to use than a gun, yet you idiots focus on the big bad ugly black piece of iron.
How many people were mass-murdered by poison in last 10 years?  I think your  a Trumpeteer troll at best, and at worst  ____!____

There is ugly at DArt and most of it comes from the cultist, Trumpeteer nutters.  My guess is that your a Trumpeteer ergo some degree of the nutter insanity involved. Old news


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There are lots of tools that are easier to use than a gun, yet you idiots focus on the big bad ugly black piece of iron.
How many people were mass-murdered by poison in last 10 years?  I think your  a Trumpeteer troll at best, and at worst  ____!____

There is ugly at DArt and most of it comes from the cultist, Trumpeteer nutters.  My guess is that your a Trumpeteer ergo some degree of the nutter insanity involved. Old news
The so-called CV19 vaccine is the most recent example.
And the Mexicans are poisoning us with fentanyl for years to present day.

No, the ugly here comes from the childish banality of the anti-“Trumpeteer nutters”. You people, like IWRA, are obsessed with Trump and those that may have or continue to support him.

Lastly, the correct use of the term you keep misusing is ‘you are’ or ‘you’re,’ not ‘your.’ 

PS. I am far more educated than you are, and clearly possess more emotional and intellectual intelligence than the lot of you “nutters”!
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PS. I am far more educated than you are, and clearly possess more emotional and intellectual intelligence than the lot of you “nutters”!
TWS is a very stable genius!

He’s also unemployed and living on disability from the government 

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The so-called CV19 vaccine is the most recent example.
What a moron

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The so-called CV19 vaccine is the most recent example.
What a moron
Then explain how women, for example, have reported new medical health issues never experienced or diagnosed with until they got the jab!?!
Why has there been a huge uptick in adverse events being reported?
Why have young adults been dropping dead?

Yeah, I’m in the know and pay attention to the lies and misinformation being put out by the government of an untested (properly under the guidelines everything else has prior to the so-called pandemic), unrefined, and unapproved cocktail of engineered crap claimed to counteract another engineered pile of crap; unlike you and your ilk. 

There is also a reason some of the companies involved had to have their shots halted or stopped completely for some age groups.

And I’m the moron. 🙄 
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He’s also unemployed and living on disability from the government 
If you’re getting even $1 from the Department of Veterans Affairs Benefits Administration, be it disability or pension, you’re a bloody hypocrite.
If you’re getting even $1 from any department/branch of the government, again, you’re a bloody hypocrite.

If you intend to collect even $1 from any department/branch of the government, to include the VA (health care included), then you’re a bloody hypocrite. 

Being retired =/= unemployed. “Moron”!

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TWS is a very stable genius! He’s also unemployed and living on disability from the government 
Thank you for the clarification IWRoose.  That is relief for me as I was starting wonder of  I was partially insane Trumpeteer, sharing a jail cell with TWS. 

So when does the stable genus going to take time to google ' how many mass-murders done with poison in last 10 years '.  For a genuis he appears to evade relatively simple questions in this age of google. 

Can a genius be in jail cell? If he is in prison, then they may not allow access to google ergo, his inability to answer rather simple questions even for a genius troll.

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Then explain how women, for example, have reported new medical health issues never experienced or diagnosed with until they got the jab!?!
Why has there been a huge uptick in adverse events being reported?
Why have young adults been dropping dead?
women? What women? How many? 5 or 5000?
young adults dropping dead? 
Adverse events? You mean this below from your link?
“CDC’s Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD) met the statistical criteria to prompt additional investigation into whether there was a safety concern for ischemic stroke in people ages 65 and older who received the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, Bivalent. To date, no other safety systems have shown a similar signal and multiple subsequent analyses have not validated this signal. No change is recommended in COVID-19 vaccination practice”

Has there ever been a new vaccine distributed on a mass scale without some adverse response by those vaccinated? Measles? Mumps? TB? Polio?
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Then explain how women, for example, have reported new medical health issues never experienced or diagnosed with until they got the jab!?!
Why has there been a huge uptick in adverse events being reported?
Why have young adults been dropping dead?
women? What women? How many? 5 or 5000?
young adults dropping dead? 
Just as I thought.
Your sociopathic psychological projection has come full circle.
What’s your favorite term? Dummy? Moron? Either way, both fit you to the proverbial “T”!!!
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psychological projection 
Greatest hits! What about Dunning Kruger and banal?

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Quoting out of context, typical.
You left off sociopathic with that psychological projection. 

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Are you a conservative bitching about hypocrisy? That’s classic 
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Non sequitur 🤦🏼‍♂️
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Non sequitur 🤦🏼‍♂️
Greatest hits!

Do you keep a list of  responses on your wall next to your bed to choose from at random? 

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I have always wondered what stupid people think about guns.

Then I read DoubleR's opinions on them.

I wonder no more, as now I know. 
I used to wonder why right wingers believe the stupid things they do, till I realized a pattern of remarkable inability to comprehend words when those words conflict with their fantasy world view.

Case and point:

Question: Was that child who was shot to death killed by a gun or killed by another child?
Answer: That child who was shot to death was killed by another child.  

Shall we ban all cars, because some children happen to walk behind their soccer mom's minivans and get ran over?  I think not.  

Your "protect the children!" outcry is as incoherent as it is nonsensical.  
Nothing about my OP had anything to do with some "protect the children" message, nor did I state anything resembling the idea that if someone is killed by a gun then all guns should be banned. You have, as usual, made all of that up and are now pretending you're attacking my points. You aren't. You're having a whole conversation in your head.

The point of the question and of this thread is to address one very simple question; do we recognize that the presence of a dangerous product makes us less safe?

We do when it comes to literally everything else. If a toy was found to be involved in a flurry of choking incidents we would recall the toy. What we wouldn't do is blame all of the parents while pretending the toy had nothing to do with it.

But when it comes to guns suddenly this very basic common sense notion goes out the window. Suddenly then it's "guns don't kill people, people kill people". What a stupid retort.

What we do with this is an entirely different conversation. One I'm always willing to have with people who know how to read.
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Yeah, I am. 

Difference is, I try to engage in intelligent discussion with others
Is that what you are trying to do, I sorry, but you need to try harder, you just sound like a dumb ass racist whack job.

but the others (minus a few members) lack the requisite intelligence to engage in said discussion. 
I see, so the problem is we just aren't smart enough to grasp the deep intelligence of bigotry LOL, I gotta give you this much, you are entertaining as hell LOL.

So when you clowns come out the gate with ad homs, you reap what you sow. Tit for tat. 
I love it when you talk dirty.
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I used to wonder why right wingers believe the stupid things they do, till I realized a pattern of remarkable inability to comprehend words when those words conflict with their fantasy world view.
Whoa whoa whoa DoubleR, aren’t you afraid you are going to lose your ability to reason with conservatives when you disparage them like this?

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In some cases it's warranted