You haven't given us a reason to respect people's wishes by default. It's just logically incorrect.
This really is most of the most basic rules of living in a civilized society. Either we respect other people’s wishes as our default or we do not respect other people’s wishes until we are given a reason to do so. This means that every stranger you come across must demonstrate to you why you need to respect their wishes in order for you to do so. That’s an absurd ideal for a way by which society functions.
I agree with your rewording of my argument, but I don't see how your conclusion follows.
How can you respect something you don't yet know (i.e. people's wishes)?
Mental illness is basically a neurological condition that causes a person to see a false distortion of the world/self.
Then not only have you failed to demonstrate this, you haven’t even argued it.
We've spent a couple dozen posts each arguing about whether transgenderism is a mental illness. I've argued it in most if not all of those posts.
I don't believe for a second you've forgotten what I've argued. You're just lying on this point.
There is nothing about a man claiming that they see themselves as a woman in a man’s body and wanting the world to see them as a woman that stems from a distorted view of reality. Gender dysphoria is a feeling, not a claim about reality. Transgender people are not telling you that they meet your definition of the gender they want to be identified as, they’re telling you they meet theirs, which tends to have nothing to do with the genitals they were born with or whatever biological marker anti-trans activists want to appeal to.
Transgenderism is about claiming you were born in the wrong biological body, hence the compulsion to transition into the opposite biological sex. Transgender people believing that transitioning into their 'correct' body will fix their feelings is wrong, and the feelings themselves are a mental illness because it isn't based on reality at all.
It is possible to have incorrect feelings, by the way. You could have a gut feeling about someone lying when they're not. You could have a premonition that it's a good idea to buy a stock, and the next day the stock's company goes bankrupt. Feelings are subject to scrutiny, and your incessant implication that they are beyond scrutiny continues to beg the question.
And again (we've already discussed this at length), if you can just make anything up with regards to gender, gender can mean anything and thus doesn't have a coherent definition. That's when people start claiming they're attack helicopters, 57 million genders at once, otherkin furies etc. That's why gender should be grounded in biological markers: it gives gender a consistent, coherent definition that makes biological sense.
Spouting random reasons doesn't make for valid argument. You need evidence to support your claims.
My claim is that you haven’t met your burden of proof. I don’t understand why this is so complicated for you.
I think transgenderism is a mental illness because it has many indications of mental illness (excessive violence, unexplained higher suicide rates, correlates highly with other mental illnesses, 40% incaration rates etc.), and none of the left-wing explanations fully explain (or really come close to) explaining why transgender people are the way they are.
I did not come here claiming trans people are not mentally ill, my claim was that we should treat them with respect and also that your claim that they are mentally ill is unfounded. That’s what we’ve been arguing for the past few weeks.
Yes, you don't have anything to claim that they are not mentally ill.
Again, I am fine with treating transgender people with basic human respect -- I agree with you on that. I don't think that this basic human respect extends to placating what I see as mental illness.
Out of interest, hypothetically, if transgenderism was confirmed as a mental illness to you, would you still respect transgender people's wishes?
In unsurprising fashion, you try to save face by taking my pushback against your claims and painting them as if I were claiming the opposite. That’s not how logic works.
You claimed to have "provided reasons to help fill some of that gap which some of your studies agreed with".
Again, victimization just simply doesn't explain the higher suicide rates of transgender people. You already agreed with this in posts before you made that comment. Why are you reverting back to your original stance that you agreed was wrong?
So back to my point on this, spouting perfectly reasonable alternative explanations that may be contributing to the high suicide rate and pointing out that none of your studies go into any depth to rule them out absolutely does refute your case, because your case literally hinges on the notion that there are no other factors thereby leaving mental illness as the only thing that could fill the remaining gap.
Again, just spouting "perfectly reasonable alternative explanations", without reference to a single shred of evidence, doesn't cut it.
We're already addressed your counterclaim that victimization explains transgender suicides. 24% of transgender people claimed that victimization was a factor in their suicidal thoughts/suicide attempt. That isn't a majority and it's not even close. So, in this instance, your "perfectly reasonable alternative" failed to explain a quarter of the reason, let alone all of it.
It's also perfectly possible that transgender people attempt suicide/think about suicide for both mental illness and other reasons. Many reasons aren't going to be mutually exclusive.
Again, I haven't argued that 'there is no other explanation for higher suicide rates, therefore it must be mental illness'. The fact that your "perfectly reasonable alternative explanations" fail to fully explain the highly erratic, mentally unsound behavior of transgender people is only part of my argument. I've made other, independent arguments showing things like transgender people having way more other mental illnesses than the general population (additional mental illnesses become more likely the more you have), transgender people having greatly elevated rates of anti-social personality disorder, transgender people more likely to be bullies than bullied, more likely to resort to violence over speech, more likely to be jailed (40% incarceration rate) etc.