Texas is sending migrants to Blue states. Let’s reciprocate

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@IwantRooseveltagain
 Mexico is part of North America 
Central America is part of North America.

up from Covid ending
How? Covid ending improves the US economy to the status quo; we should compare Biden under the status quo to Trump under the status quo. You're assuming that all the people who left America during covid would turn right back around, and that's not how migration patterns work. And besides, they can only get back in due to ineffectual border security.

doesn’t get credit for the immigrants who left when the COVID
The equation I used doesn't give him credit for those.
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He didn't, though.
His cabinet members have told the press he actually considered it.

He proposed to his cabinet shooting immigrants who approached the border

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That's irrelevant to our discussion of whether Biden is doing a suboptimal job. Trump never did that, so it doesn't affect his numbers.
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Central America is the southernmost region of North America. It lies between Mexico and South America, and it includes the countries Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, and Belize.
Are you stupid? This is your source above

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Covid ending improves the US economy to the status quo; we should compare Biden under the status quo to Trump under the status quo.
Exactly, so under the status quo, meaning no COVID, Trump and Biden have the exact same number of illegal immigrants in the country

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Are you stupid? This is your source above
The source actually says that part of Mexico can be considered part of Central America. Others include all of it. I'm not sure why you've spent so long arguing a semantic point; it's irrelevant to what we're discussing.
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same number of illegal immigrants
The number you should be looking at is how many migrants enter per month under each administration, not just the total number at some point in time.
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The number you should be looking at is how many migrants enter per month under each administration, not just the total number at some point in time.
No, that’s nonsense. The total number is the result of the monthly flows.

People left the country because of Covid, not Trump. 

People returned to the country because Covid ended, the economy recovered nicely (and Central America is in crisis) not Biden.

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Central America isn't an official continent, and Mexico is included.
Can you admit that you made a mistake and Mexico is not part of Central America?

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The total number is the result of the monthly flows.
Counting the total number is like looking at the GDP under each president instead of at the increase in GDP under their presidency. By that standard, George Washington was terrible at economic management and great at keeping out immigrants, despite the US having no restrictions on immigration.

Can you admit that Mexico is not part of Central America?
Why would I do that? Plenty of sources count it.
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First, black families in Texas are just like everyone else: capable of getting a gun if they so desire
Do you know how much an AR-15 costs?
I wasn't aware crimes in California were committed exclusively with AR-15s. Besides that, I wasn't aware "black" was synonymous with poor. 

Suffice to say, if OP meant "AR-15s" and *poor* black families, he should have made that clear. Regardless, my other points stand. 
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Most states would gladly trade thier white supremacists for migrants all day long, that would upgrade state in every category.
wHiTe SuPrEeEeEeEeEmAcIsts

8/10 original and quality troll. Very hard not to respond to.
You know what I say about white supremacists is true, that's why they are so ashamed they wish they were never born.
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Why would I do that? Plenty of sources count it.
Plenty? You mean one, right?

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Why would I do that? Plenty of sources count it.
Are you aware the black unemployment rate is always higher than the non-black?

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By that standard, George Washington was terrible at economic management and great at keeping out immigrants, despite the US having no restrictions on immigration.
Not if you were comparing the total number under Washington to the total number under Adams

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I am so sick of leftist HYPROCRISY!!!!!!!
Is this leftist hypocrisy? Or is it hypocrisy in general of someone probably 0.005 units on the left of you but still way more right than the average person? Do we know?

We don't, but libel like this by extending his behavior to all leftists is irrelevant and false at best and disrespectful at worst.

Speaking about the topic, you have made me misspell "hypocrisy" like 3 times the writing of this post. I truly thank you from the bottom of whatever heart I even have at this point.

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Perhaps the very idea of sanctuary cities is a lie, and the real political pawns are the ones believing the lie.

If that was the case, a politician's first defense would be to shift the blame.

Check out these clips of rooms full of "skin supremacists" exposing this lie.


I just don't understand why all those dark skinned American supremacists would be so upset about voting for "America last" policies such as sanctuary states.

They voted Democrat, did they not? These are Democrat town halls filled with mostly Democrats, right?

You can't seriously claim the sanctuary cities Chicago and New York are "Maga country" as Jussie Smollett once claimed under duress?
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No, you should be comparing him to the total numbers under Bush or something, but that would lead to erroneous results. That's why your standard doesn't work.
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Why would I do that? Plenty of sources count it.
Are you aware the black unemployment rate is always higher than the non-black?
This is directed at the wrong person, my friend. 
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He proposed to his cabinet shooting immigrants who approached the border
So he proposed something similar to what South Korea and North Korea already have? 

Koreas dont shoot the ones coming in, but they do shoot the ones trying to escape.

Now, I dont see the video or recording where he said that, but then again the media does like to put words in other people's mouth.

North Korea: "If you attack us, we will destroy you"

Media: "North Korea is threatening to destroy USA"

Yeah, the propaganda of media cleverly shaped for dumb masses to swallow.
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This is directed at the wrong person, my friend. 
So the high black unemployment rate may be a reason to offer blacks free guns for self defense in Texas and Florida.

Plus, if more blacks had guns, you would see Texas and Florida try to restrict open carry and conceal carry just as Reagan did in California 

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This is directed at the wrong person, my friend. 
So
Youve made little effort to address the previous points I've raised. If I were to engage this new point you've raised, will you ignore counter arguments again? I'm inclined to think "yes". 

I have no interest in bad faith discussions. 
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@SkepticalOne
the reality is most black families can’t afford guns, AR-15 or otherwise, and being blacks greatly increases the likelihood of being poor in this country. You don’t seem to believe these statistical facts
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"If you own a gun, then you aint black."

-Some leftist racist.
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I think you should criticize the opportunity lost in New voters.