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@ILikePie5
Are you aware that violent crime is in a long term down-trend?And how does that correlate with police funding?
Police are armed in order to deal with violent criminals.
Police only face violent criminals on roughly 4% of their calls.
Therefore, it stands to reason, the armed police should get roughly 4% of current police funding, with the rest (96%) distributed to unarmed civil servants.
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@ILikePie5
Actually, we have FEWER rights than an "enemy combatant".Really? Would you rather be in a federal prison or Guantanamo Bay?
Would you rather be shot in cold blood, or held in violation of the Geneva conventions?
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@ILikePie5
Hint: Shooting anyone in the back, even if they are carrying a loaded weapon, is a WAR CRIME.Where’s your source?
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@zedvictor4
An appeal to atrocity is undeniably atrocious.
Each individual (including children) should be treated as SOVEREIGN INDIVIDUALS.
It is important to draw a bright line protecting PERSONAL PRIVACY.
Suspected atrocity should never be carte-blanche for the state to violate PERSONAL PRIVACY.
Any crime reported by anyone (including children) should be investigated thoroughly and seriously - without violating CIVIL RIGHTS.
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@ILikePie5
Do you understand that soldiers in an ACTIVE WARZONE are held to a higher standard for combatant shootings than domestic police?Domestic Law is different than Foreign Law. We have Civil Rights and Liberties here.
Actually, we have FEWER rights than an "enemy combatant".
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@ILikePie5
I wonder how much that number would be without police officers?
Are you aware that violent crime is in a long term down-trend?
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@Crocodile
Literally out of 10 people i see while walking down the road, half are doing drugs, and the other half are dealing them
Do you understand that THE WAR ON DRUGS was originally concocted specifically to allow NIXON to lock up HIPPIES AND WAR PROTESTERS?
THE WAR ON DRUGS IS A WAR ON CIVIL LIBERTY.
THE WAR ON DRUGS IS A WAR ON PERSONAL PRIVACY.
THE WAR ON DRUGS IS A WAR ON PERSONAL PROPERTY.
Federal asset forfeiture laws were championed by JOE BIDEN.
Federal agents can confiscate your vehicle and even your house WITHOUT TRIAL.
SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY WRONG.
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@Crocodile
don't fucking defund the police tho like wtf is that about.
Only 4% of police calls are for violent crimes (like assault or robbery).
This means that 96% of police calls could be handled by unarmed civil servants.
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@ILikePie5
No matter what you do. Just like killers are going to exist, police brutality is going to exist. The key is getting it as low as possible which it arguably is right now.
Do you understand that soldiers in an ACTIVE WARZONE are held to a higher standard for combatant shootings than domestic police?
Hint: Shooting anyone in the back, even if they are carrying a loaded weapon, is a WAR CRIME.
Domestic police can act with impunity because of a special law called "QUALIFIED IMMUNITY".
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@BearMan
"If for the sake of Communism it is necessary for us to destroy 9/10ths of the people, we must not hesitate." "We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tensions. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negros. We will aid the Negroes to rise in prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause." Israel Cohen, A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century, 1912. Also in the Congressional Record, Vol. 103, p. 8559, June 7, 1957"
1912, yipes!
Step 1, pit the POOR and WORKING CLASSES AGAINST EACH OTHER.
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The "reality" of the situation is much more fundamental.
A FEUDAL HIERARCHY will always use FEAR to tighten its collective stranglehold on citizens.
A FEUDAL HIERARCHY will always use FEAR in order to con citizens into "voluntarily" giving up their constitutional rights.
The lockdown may or may not be based on "nothing".
But that's actually purely incidental (moot, red-herring).
Even (IFF) the "deadly" SARS-2 is "really real" (THEN) the government STILL has ZERO authority to force people to stay in their homes and or deny them the right to free assembly and or force them to wear protective clothing and or wash their hands.
There is ZERO authority for any of these "emergency" "measures".
This would be TRUE even if we were in the middle of a full blown ZOMBIE OUTBREAK.
THE PLAN, in 20 minutes,
Bill Gates, the World Health Organization and the World Bank are working with AADHAAR to create a worldwide unique digital ID for every human on the planet. **This is not a "conspiracy theory".** This is already happening. This unique digital ID will allow any "criminals" (dissidents, protesters) to be automatically frozen out of the CASHLESS global banking system. If you get BLACKLISTED you will lose access to your purely digital money in your purely digital bank. You will also be frozen out of the internet, so you will not be able to even look for a job. And even if you manage to find a job locally, nobody will hire you without scanning your digital ID for a "non-criminal" (non-dissident, non-protester) status.
THE EVENT, in 15 minutes,
From 2018 (this is not new):
This single question occupied us for the rest of the hour. They knew armed guards would be required to protect their compounds from the angry mobs. But how would they pay the guards once money was worthless? What would stop the guards from choosing their own leader? The billionaires considered using special combination locks on the food supply that only they knew. Or making the guards wear disciplinary collars of some kind in return for their survival. Or maybe building robots to serve as guards and workers - if that technology could be developed in time.
"TWO PARTY" = ONE PARTY
SOCIALISM = CAPITALISM
BLACK = WHITE
We really need to stop bickering about "liberals" and "conservatives" and "SJWs" and "BLM" and "MAGA".
The REAL OWNERS are just pitting us against each other, distracting us with "scary criminals" and idiotic "elections" which they're fully in control of regardless of who you vote for.
We are already living in a POLICE STATE.
WE MUST DEMAND RCV.
Here's the problem,
We currently live in a society where a co-worker can drop their bank debit card in your car, and then call the police and report their card stolen, and describe your vehicle.
Then you can be pulled over and searched and when the lost card is discovered, you will be taken by police and your automobile impounded. And they take your cell phone, so if you don't have any phone numbers memorized, or if the person you call doesn't happen to answer the phone, you're SOL.
You can be held "pending trial" for months and so they tell you, if you sign some papers they'll let you go home, I'm sure this is all a big misunderstanding.
But those papers happen to be a confession, and that allows a judge to make a summary judgement because you "confessed" there is NO TRIAL.
Then you spend 3 years under guard.
Now you can't even get a decent job because almost nobody will even consider hiring a convicted felon.
The current federal asset forfeiture laws were championed by JOE BIDEN.
Your PROPERTY can be confiscated by the state WITHOUT TRIAL.
THIS IS THE REAL PROBLEM.
THE POOR HAVE NO CIVIL RIGHTS.
AND THE POOR AND MIDDLECLASS ARE PITTED AGAINST EACH OTHER.
YOU ARE **GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT.**
I CAN SEND A DEATH SQUAD TO YOUR HOUSE TONIGHT BY SIMPLY TELLING THE SWAT TEAM THAT I THINK YOU'RE A DRUG KINGPIN.
SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY WRONG.
THE ENTIRE WAR ON DRUGS IS A SCAM CREATED BY THE STATE IN ORDER TO SUPPRESS THE HIPPIES AND BLACK-PANTHERS.
THE ENTIRE WAR ON DRUGS IS A SCAM CREATED TO SUPPRESS ANTI-WAR AND ANTI-GOVERNMENT PROTESTERS.
THE WAR ON DRUGS IS A SCAM.
THE WAR ON DRUGS IS A WAR ON CIVIL RIGHTS.
THE WAR ON DRUGS IS A WAR ON PERSONAL PRIVACY.
THE WAR ON DRUGS IS A WAR ON PERSONAL SOVEREIGNTY.
DEMAND HOLOCRACY + RCV.
I watch this once a day - Click to watch 3 minutes,
Perhaps anarchy already exists and "THE COMMUNITY" is merely the highest manifestation of organized crime.
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+proHUMAN +proFAMILY
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@Athias
You are phenomenally astute.
1. The mind allows for the experience of phenomena, all of which is enclosed in Noumenon, the extent of which is imperceptible to any subject.
"Your mind" is like a lens through which "The Mind" observes (explores and catalogs) aspects of NOUMENON.
In other words, the mind--presumably the faculty of logic--acts as an intermediary between subjective and intersubjective (or objective) existence.
"Your mind" (your faculty of logic) is not 100% conscious of itself. "Your mind" (your faculty of logic) has subconscious impulses that you can indirectly observe the effects of (post-facto).
And I believe it is critical to point out that humans are fully incapable of detecting "anything" purely OBJECTIVE.
This is irrational.
Please explain.
It would presume that a faculty of the mind can be employed to "reason" that which is independent of the mind.
"Your mind" is a fully integrated module of "The Mind" which is itself a fully integrated module of NOUMENON.
There is no "part" that is "independent".
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@zedvictor4
Not sure of your point.
I was referring to this,
...incapability is an uncommon condition or physiological aberration. [POST#4]
I'm suggesting that "fertility" shouldn't be the core measure of "male" and or "female" individual and or social identity.
The state has absolutely no reason to know my "sexgender".
The state has absolutely no reason to make up laws regarding where I can and cannot go based on my "sexgender".
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@Athias
P1: The Mind is the cause of everything as one perceives it.
How do you draw this particular conclusion?
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@Athias
My response wouldn't amount to a "nuh-uh." I'm pointing out that you're evaluating the veracity or falsifiability of the claim, "self-caused" contingent on my capacity to substantiate it, rather than evaluate the claim itself. [You have done so before but not in this instance.] That's an appeal to ignorance:
It doesn't matter what you prefer to call it.
"Self-caused" is (EITHER) cause and effect (OR) non-causal (OR) some combination
"God-caused" is (EITHER) cause and effect (OR) non-causal (OR) some combination
"Spirit-caused" is (EITHER) cause and effect (OR) non-causal (OR) some combination
This is tautological (encompassing all possible variables) and NOT an "appeal to ignorance".
No claim can be considered SOUND unless it is presented in the appropriate format.
You don't get "the benefit of the doubt". Neither do I. Nor does anyone.
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@Athias
Strangely enough, I agree with you that Quanta (science) is a sub-category of Qualia (metaphysics).
HOWeVer, this does not mean that you can simply throw empirical observation out-of-the-proverbial-window.
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P1: The Mind is the cause of everything as one perceives it.
This bald assertion is beyond our epistemological limits.
"The Mind" might be our individual metaphysical "bedrock", but that does not exclude the possibility of "The Mind" being an aspect of NOUMENON.
P2: That which comes before or remains "outside" the mind is irrational to any subject.
I agree, it is irrational to attempt to discuss anything that might be considered "truly" "incomprehensible" (GNOSIS).
P3: One's mind and One are the same.
Have you ever "changed your mind"?
P4: I perceive myself.
I certainly hope so.
C1: Therefore, I am self-caused.
This conclusion does not NECESSARILY follow from your stated premises, and therefore fails to qualify as sound logic.
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@Athias
The irony is that this is an appeal to ignorance: my unwillingness or incapacity to substantiate an argument doesn't not render it unverifiable or unfalsifiable; thus, you must qualify your statement with "indistinguishable" rather than extend your premises to their logical conclusion.
I've very carefully and comprehensively laid out the variables.
(EITHER) cause and effect (OR) non-causal (OR) some combination
And you're "answer" is "nuh-uh".
This is not an "argument". Technically this is referred to as "gain-saying".
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@zedvictor4
Most women over the age of 50 are infertile.
This is hardly an "uncommon condition" or "psychological aberration".
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@zedvictor4
There is a physiological norm, whereby under normal function A inseminates B and perpetuates the species. Physiological aberrations that do not fit this required normality are specific but also collectively more commonplace and thereby become a separate physiological norm.
Right, in other words, just because you are unwilling or uninterested or incapable of bearing (or siring) a child shouldn't strip you of any inalienable rights.
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@Greyparrot
So, your "scathing critique" consists entirely of a long-winded ad hominem attack?
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The analysis is much more rigorous than I expected, and I agree with most (but not all) of the initial presentation.
However, one glaring omission the speaker makes is a condition called ANDROGEN INSENSITIVITY.
ANDROGEN INSENSITIVITY is when a person has XY chromosomes (apparently the "gold standard" for "sexgender" which happens to be quite a strange "bald assertion" ontologically, specifically because chromosomes weren't even discovered until the mid 1880s, WTF).
ANDROGEN INSENSITIVITY is when a person has XY chromosomes (this speaker might call them "male") and yet, even though they have XY chromosomes, their cells are ANDROGEN INSENSITIVE and therefore are unaffected by that specific hormone and are therefore fully female in physical appearance, bone structure, girly parts and everything else.
In case you missed that.
There are people alive today with XY chromosomes who are physically indistinguishable from female.
They were literally born this way.
Now, you might say "this is extremely rare and therefore can be dismissed out-of-hand as a statistical fluke".
However, because we do not TEST FOR THIS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW "RARE" IT MIGHT BE.
It is important to maintain a constant awareness of and vigilant respect of our epistemological limits.
And, to be generous, EVEN IFF it was found to be "extremely rare", it still proves that "sexgender" is not 100% dictated by your magical biblical chromosomes.
AND there is absolutely no way for anyone to KNOW this without violating personal privacy.
There are also cases where a person has what might at first glance appear to be an XY, but the **Y itself** can have a 4th stub (leg) of various lengths (imagine an X with a short leg), the shorter the stub, the more "male" they appear, and the longer the stub, the more "female" they appear.
THE KEY TAKEAWAY FROM ALL OF THIS IS THAT IT IS A VIOLATION OF PRIVACY TO DEMAND THAT ANYONE "PROVE" THEIR GENDER.
IT IS A MATTER OF **FUNDAMENTAL** PERSONAL SOVEREIGNTY.
The classical Problem of Identity is and has been and always will be a PRIVATE PERSONAL JOURNEY.
SOCIAL NORMS ARE FLUID.
THERE IS NO REASON TO CODIFY SOCIAL NORMS.
WHAT WE SHOULD CODIFY IS PERSONAL SOVEREIGNTY.
WHAT WE SHOULD CODIFY IS PERSONAL SOVEREIGNTY.
This kind of RED-HERRING petty divisive bickering ("moral outrage") is EXACTLY what our OWNERS need in order to keep the working class and poor people pitted **against** each other.
I watch this once a day - Click to watch 3 minutes,
Perhaps anarchy already exists and "THE COMMUNITY" is merely the highest manifestation of organized crime.
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+proHUMAN +proFAMILY
Your scathing critique is requested.
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@ebuc
Thanks for the link!
If we find that the observed primordial gravitational waves are indeed highly non-Gaussian, their skewness can be used to measure the energy density fraction of gauge fields during inflation, allowing us to probe the constituents of our Universe when it was less than a trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth (10-36) of a second old.
BETTER DETECTION = BETTER DATA
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@Athias
I do not subscribe to the notion or argument that "self-caused" is incoherent.
(IFF) you are unable or unwilling to present a cogent, sound, logical (tautological) statement defending the bald assertion that "self-caused" is logically coherent (THEN) your claim (appeal to ignorance) cannot be evaluated for veracity and is therefore unfalsifiable and is therefore (indistinguishable from) unsound.
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@zedvictor4
"Uncaused cause" is the inconceivable beginning....Everything else is a succession of caused events.....One does because one is.
Certainly there "is/was" "some" "thing" "before" "the big bang", but whatever that "is/was" is BEYOND OUR EPISTEMOLOGICAL LIMITS.
What we find ourselves in NOW is concrete cause-and-effect.
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@Athias
(IFF) Each and every event is CAUSED (THEN) these causes produce a complex orchestra of events (which are also causes).
The only alternative to this orchestra of events is the hypothetical UNCAUSED-CAUSE (de facto RANDOM CAUSE).
And a hypothetical UNCAUSED-CAUSE would necessarily violate the CONSERVATION OF ENERGY.
We don't need to know each and every specific cause for each and every observable event (which is just a tiny fraction of the ultimate event).
We just need to recognize that an UNCAUSED-CAUSE is logically INCOHERENT.
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@ethang5
Your scathing critique is requested.
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@ethang5
Are you perhaps unfamiliar with the work of Edward Bernays?No, but it is obvious I understand it better.
Perhaps it seems obvious to you, but I remain unconvinced.
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@ethang5
Even animals and plants and weather patterns are difficult (if not impossible) for an individual human mind to predict.?? As opposed to the human hive mind?
As opposed to a collection of humans using shared resources such as computerized data collection.
It's just like predicting the weather.
Better data = Better prediction
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@ethang5
We are able to train dogs because their behavior IS predictable.
100%? Can you predict when your dog is going to get lost?
Can you predict when your dog is going to get sick (with 100% accuracy)?
If you could predict your dog's behavior 100%, then you'd never lose it.
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@Athias
What is the necessary and essential physical cause and why is this necessary and essential physical cause not repeating itself ad infinitum? Aren't we all pulling triggers, now?
It's caused by psychology which is a subset of physiology which is a subset of chemistry which is a subset of PHYSICS.
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@ethang5
Huh? I ask you a question and you request an explanation? What is it about questions that you liberal atheists so fear?
This is called "NORMAL CONVERSATION".
I don't understand your question, can you please be more specific or rephrase or provide an example to illustrate.
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@ethang5
...but you seem to be talking about homosexuals and I was asking about homosexuality,
Masterful hair-splitting!
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@ethang5
Are you perhaps unfamiliar with the work of Edward Bernays?No, but it is obvious I understand it better.
Please demonstrate.
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@ethang5
Would you describe yourself as a DETERMINIST?No, you described the behaviour of plants and animals. None of the things you used as examples were unpredictable.
Have you ever tried to train a dog?
Even animals and plants and weather patterns are difficult (if not impossible) for an individual human mind to predict.
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@Greyparrot
You know, the ones where you can't apply the law based on DNA or skin color.
I didn't think the "founding fathers" knew about "DNA".
And I'm pretty sure there are (at least a very few) racist police officers and racist judges and racist politicians.
Are you telling me that "the constitution" makes these (racists) "illegal" somehow?
Please explain.
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@ethang5
Is homosexuality + proFAMILY?
Please explain where exactly you think you see a conflict between the two.
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@ethang5
Your initial position of denying free will has locked you into the untenable position of having to claim that human thought is predictable, when nothing in our long history has proven less predictable than human thought.
Are you perhaps unfamiliar with the work of Edward Bernays?
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@ethang5
None of the things you used as examples are unpredictable.
Awesome.
Would you describe yourself as a DETERMINIST?
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@Greyparrot
In other words, a return to the values outlined in the US Constitution.
Well, some of them anyway.
We can probably skip a few "values" like the 3/5ths compromise for example.
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@Castin
Have you been watching the new Snowpiercer television show?
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@ethang5
Is homosexuality + proFAMILY?
+proFAMILY means you should love your family unconditionally.
+proFAMILY means you should protect your family by any means necessary.
Strengthening the core family unit (keeping families together) strengthens the bedrock (fundamental fabric) of society.
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Yes, and this is the type of thing i mean when I say we should not let up on the narrative. There is no need to dilute the simple truth that he catered (and probably backmailed) many in positions of power.
I applaud the efforts of people who are trying to "bring this to light" (like @ura-soul and yourself). [***]
However, the main "problem" with this approach is that it focuses too much on "bad actors" and by doing this you divert attention and potentially exculpate "THE SYSTEM" (namely, FEUDAL HIERARCHY).
And without systemic reform (HOLACRACY), we'll just end up with new and "improved" "HEROES" (CON-ARTIST MOBSTERS).
And we don't want to fall into the HERO trap.
Click to watch 4 minutes,
We must insist on a system that mitigates all forms of DEMONIZATION. [***]
We must insist on a system that protects truly INALIENABLE RIGHTS (rights that nobody can "voluntarily" sign away).
We must insist on a ("legal") system that holds the PRIMARY AXIOMS.
We must insist on a policy of +proHUMAN.
We must insist on a policy of +proFAMILY.
We must insist on a policy of +proSOVEREIGNTY.
We must insist on a SYSTEM that can be effectively operated by SELF-INTERESTED BABIES (not "heroes").
Special thanks to @practicalthought
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Perhaps anarchy already exists and "THE COMMUNITY" is merely the highest manifestation of organized crime. – special thanks to @thoughts-in-time
+proHUMAN +proFAMILY
Your scathing critique is requested.
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@Athias
I do not dispute their being factors in the discharge of the projectile.
Great.
However, how is that pertinent to "pulling" the trigger?
Pulling the trigger is a physical event that is preceded by necessary and essential physical causes.
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@Athias
Where is dependency necessarily established?
It's tautological.
(IFF) physical events are governed solely by the "laws" of physics (THEN) all physical events have necessary and essential physical causes.
(IFF) you are proposing some "non-physical" "force" interferes with the "laws" of physics (THEN) please present your best evidence of such a "force"
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@Athias
there are only four forces in the universe: gravitational, electromagnetic, strong nuclear, and weak nuclear; I'm not aware of any evidence that anything happening in one's mind can influence those forces.How is any of that pertinent to pulling a trigger?
These are 100% of the factors involved.
Unless you can suggest something else?
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@Athias
Is causality necessarily transitive?A causes B,B causes C,C causes D;Therefore, A causes D?
Your example answers your question.
that would be a "yes".
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@Athias
But I must ask again: is cause-and-effect necessarily transitive?
Please explain.
I don't understand your question.
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