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@Outplayz
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@Greyparrot
You're missing the Irony.Al Gore made all of his money as a prophet claiming the beaches were going to be underwater within our lifetimes.
That just makes them more precious.
Should I not visit a glacier because it's melting?
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@Snoopy
The established companies are diversified. Look up some of the heavy hitters producing the country's electricity and you'll probably see wind and natural gas operations among their other (aging) facilities.
Good point. They're playing both sides.
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@Greyparrot
Are you kidding me? How many multi-million dollar homes have been purchased by oil industry executives?Al Gore recently purchased a multi-million dollar home on the beach with money he collected as a shill for the green energy industrial complex.
Does RICH = LIAR?
Also, which specific companies do you believe are members of the nefarious "green energy industrial complex"?
Oh noes!! LED lightbulbs?!?! The horror!!!!!
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
I would believe those who actually do something practical and effective to ensure clean water and air.Do you think the water and air is as clean/good as it could or should be? If not why not?
The biggest polluters give the largest campaign contributions.
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@Athias
Ok, sure, but do you have the ability to grow your own food, weave your own clothes, and build your own house?Yes, yes, and yes. Whether I do this efficiently requires skill, which can be gained through an apprenticeship or through trial and error.
I'm impressed.
However, I'm pretty sure a good 80 to 90% of internet denizens would die on your "mad max" prairie.
Great, so where does "law and order" come from?From the very mechanism I just described. It's simple game theory: each participant engages interaction with a set a preconditioned stipulations to which each party agrees.
With no contract law and no enforcement mechanism, con-artists and mafiosos win every single time.
Each player participates to the extent he or she is willing. Each player is allowed to exit with no less than they came in.
Based on what? General good-will? Are you advocating a barter system?
This forum is a great example: I agree to terms before joining this forum. There are rules and regulations imposed by the sites owner, and overseen by his/her moderators. If at any point I don't agree with terms, I can simply exit the arrangement.
It works great for entertainment. I'm not so sure it would work as reliably for necessities.
Since the owner of the site as per the descriptions "owns" the site, I don't have any claims, so my exiting the arrangement would amount to no longer participating on the site.
What do you think about the conservative babies who cry about youtube and google "censorship"?
Can we rely on mob rule?How is that different from democracy?
Corpus Juris Civilis is an evolution of mob rule. The difference is like the difference between a wild bull and an ox.
How do we defend against vigilantes?Private security.
When you say "private security" do you really mean "mafiosos"? I'm not sure I can tell the difference.
People may start out as homesteaders on the open prairie, but after a couple of generations of "specialization" the ability to fulfill our basic needs evaporates.Nothing which can't be learned again; like riding a bicycle.
I guess I'll have to trust you to teach me.
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@Snoopy
The research on that particular topic is all fairly recent, so how many samples do we really have?
ICE CORES = LITERALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OF DATA.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
individual freedom stops when it interferes another's individual freedom, this has always been so. Criminals pay a price for their choice. "greater good" is removing that choice.
I'm not sure why you would think that individual criminals should be stripped of their "freedom" (for "the greater good") but corporations should be allowed to run rampant.
standards of evidence? I mean I just said how the "studies" on cholesterol were all faked, bs, made up.
BY THE SUGAR INDUSTRY.
that's one of many examples.For me the pro climate change arguments have equal if not less credible than the anti.
You can't eat food that grows next to refineries and you can't eat fish from polluted lakes.
Let's say for the sake-of-argument, that "climate change" is fake.
Do you ignore the data that shows people who live near free-ways have a significantly higher chance of developing asthma?
Perhaps more evidence will change that but I haven't seen any yet. Al Gore was so convincing and positive, see how well that went for him.
What's your "worst-case-scenario" if everyone gets on-board the "climate change" railroad?
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@Ramshutu
If your willing to believe that the entire scientific community has been engaged in a massive orchestrated shill effort for the last 40 years; but the large energy companies that have been actively funding anti climate change politics, studies, and attempts to change public perceptions in order to oppose and stifle policies that harm their bottom line are acting out of the goodness of their heart, then I have some magic beans to sell you.
acting out of the goodness of their heart
RICH = GOOD
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@Athias
Not at all. Consider David Riccardo's Law of Comparative Advantage in a microeconomic context. Whatever I decide to do with my time will produce an opportunity cost. Now I may not be reliant on anyone to provide my basic needs, but that doesn't mean that it would be in interests to attempt to do some of these tasks somewhat inefficiently unless my goal is isolation, which you unwittingly conflated with individualism.
Wittingly.
For example, I know how to cook; but I still go out to eat. Do you I "depend" on chefs to eat? By delegating some tasks to others who have also taken on an opportunity cost to specialize, I can focus on my own specialization(s) and cultivate expertise and efficiency as a result.
Ok, sure, but do you have the ability to grow your own food, weave your own clothes, and build your own house?
People may start out as homesteaders on the open prairie, but after a couple of generations of "specialization" the ability to fulfill our basic needs evaporates.
So no, I disagree with your description of a society. A society is a circuit of specialized individuals who trade resources (whether it be property, skills, or even company) in order to bring about a condition in which they believe they ought to live. As individuals, the extent of their participation begins and ends with them.
Great, so where does "law and order" come from? Can we rely on mob rule? How do we defend against vigilantes? [LINK]
This countermands Statist proproganda because it doesn't mesh with the notion of "dependency," which is just a platitude democracy proponents use to justify coercing minorities and dissenters into participation.
People may start out as homesteaders on the open prairie, but after a couple of generations of "specialization" the ability to fulfill our basic needs evaporates.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Isn't this really about "standards-of-evidence"?I chose not to take what others say on faith, you are free to do so, scientist have been wrong even to the death of others, so believe and trust in them if you will, I'm not so easily convinced.
Do you believe the "greater good" is ever a reasonable justification to violate individual freedom?
I mean, do you believe we should imprison criminals?
Or should we just let free-market-competition weed out all the "idiotic weaklings"?
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
well I hate to say it, but it's being destroyed and getting worse. The democrats want more government control over our lives, anti constitution etc I could go on and on, but that's a different thread I suppose.
I see it like this, the government is supposed to shield us from con-artists and psychopaths.
The government is like an air-filter on a safety mask. Sure the filter gets dirty and inefficient, but the solution is NOT "just remove the filter".
The solution is to clean and or replace the filter with a better one. [LINK]
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@ebuc
a dipyramid geometry patter <> with a fat middle class girdle i.e. very few at the top and at the bottom of the social order
Well stated.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
If the government can be manipulated into serving others instead of the citizens, then we should take action to mitigate this manipulation. [LINK]If the government can be manipulated into serving others instead of the citizens, general public then really that's made my point.
If we destroy all faith in the government, then there is nothing standing between us and the money-hungry sociopathic corporations.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
They have been wrong about the food pyramid after lo these many years.
They published misleading information BECAUSE they were influenced by corporations. [LINK]
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@Athias
it's that policy won't achieve its intended result if it seeks to "solve" crime. General policy can only achieve some amount of acquiescence by exploiting the fear of death. But even that goes so far.
I've seen this one before, I believe it's called, "the perfect is the enemy of the good".
You're basically saying, you know for an ever-loving fact that "crime can never be solved", therefore you reason that anyone who even attempts such a feat is full of stuffing.
Have you considered what a "society" of self-sufficient-individuals would look like?
It's not a society, it's a bunch of hermits.
A society is a co-operative group of inter-dependent members. Not a bunch of self-sufficient-individuals.
A self-sufficient-individual is, by definition, anti-social.
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Here are two examples of "the greater good" opposed to "individual freedom".
First, vaccination. "the greater good" argues that although some people have violent reactions to vaccines, the cost is vanishingly small, so even if you or someone you love has been harmed by one or more vaccines, your suffering is of little concern to "society at large" because statistically, way more people suffer way less under mandatory vaccinations.
Pro-Vaccine vs Anti-Vaccine: Should Your Kids Get Vaccinated? [LINK]
Second, climate change. "the greater good" argues that although some people have significant negative economic impacts as the result of environmental policies, the cost of doing nothing is catastrophic to all humans, so even if you or someone you love has been harmed by environmental policies, your suffering is of little concern to "society at large" because statistically, way more people will suffer under the status quo.
Climate Change Activists vs Skeptics: Can They See Eye To Eye? [LINK]
Do you believe we should steamroll individuals in pursuit of "the greater good"?
Do you think we should perhaps consider ways to mitigate the suffering of individuals, no matter how "insignificant" it might seem to the enlightened masses?
Do you think we should demonize detractors and paint them as "idiots" who "deserve what they get"?
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@Athias
Correction: I believe every individual is a "unique snowflake." Though, I don't know how this is relevant.
You seemed to be suggesting that each person is too unique for a general policy to apply to them.
Do you believe we should strive to have a system of laws that are custom tailored to each person individually?
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@Snoopy
Nice Baltimore clip,
But you can go too far in both directions...
Oklahoma isn’t the only red state in tax-cut distress. Lawmakers in GOP-led Kansas, Indiana, Missouri and Mississippi are debating ways of raising more revenue to ease budget problems. In neighboring Arkansas, where Republicans recently won control of the statehouse, GOP leaders approved a more modest tax cut proposal than many conservatives wanted. [LINK]
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@Outplayz
Are you suggesting that criminal behavior is an inscrutable mystery that can never be mitigated or resolved?Mitigated? Make non-violent illegal stuff legal. Solved? Not in the near future bc as long as Ferrari's exist and only some can have it, some will want it and get that Ferrari anyway they can... falling under legal or illegal. The real question is... Can you cage a human? I'm neutral to stuff, i'm a minimalist... but is the world like me... no. People exist... the more we cage someone from living, the more there will be crime. Location and family matter too... if i didn't come up in a loving family and middle class, i'm the type that would have resorted to crime most likely seeing that even with a cushy life i did criminal behavior in my drug days... why? Bc i wanted cash and cool stuff... and to get high and have sex. Thank Zeus i didn't go to prison bc if i did and had a record i wouldn't have my job most likely...so, i'd either be dead by now or a drug lord. You can't cage humans. I would have lived no matter what... and fortunately for society, my way just happened to go down the legal route. It's a roll of the dice.
What do you think would happen if we tried our best to give each kid an equal shot at life?
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@Athias
Of course, I don't simply presume that the absence of a central government would be a fix. But it would be a start. A moral revolution would have to take place as well.
Would you call yourself a "wild-west" "live and let die" libertarian?
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@keithprosser
I think there is a 'terminological' issue to be resolved.There is a sense in which I can choose which direction to walk (either to the library or to the shops,say). A leaf blowing in the wind has no desire to go in any particular direction and does not make any decision about how it will be blown around.The danger is that one can 'define free will away' and it becomes impossible to distinguish between the two cases, when there is clearly avery big difference between choosing where to walk and being unconsciously blown hither and tither by the wind.Given that determinism is 'true' (for present purposes!), I think the interesting question is how 'entities with free will' (such as people) differ from object that don't have it (such as fallen leaves). Reducing them both to a 'lowest commin denominator' is trivial, but (to me)that only scratches the surface of 'free will'.
Please explain "the danger"?
The most practical upshot of "the noble lie" of "freewill" is that people are more likely to "blame themselves" if they were given a "choice".
For example, if people are drafted into the military and they are killed, then we tend to blame "the government" for forcing them into battle.
HOwever, if people volunteer for military service and they are killed, then we tend to say, "they knew what they were getting into" and "they made a brave choice".
The key advantage seems to lie on the side of the con-artist.
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@Athias
Are you suggesting that criminal behavior is an inscrutable mystery that can never be mitigated or resolved?It's not a mystery. And yes crime will never be solved. Can it be mitigated? Yes if you can make the cost of committing the crime larger than not committing the crime. Can you write a policy measure which operates on an algorithm addressing the subjective values of each individual citizen? Good luck.
I love that you believe every criminal is a unique snowflake.
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@Athias
People who have basic food, clothing and shelter are less desperate and less likely to become criminals.This is perhaps the largest abuse of statistics: conflating an observed trend with psychic readings of the future. Those who often cite a statistic do little to avoid the ecological inference problem. For example, Athias has purchased sweets every Saturday since he was twelve. It's likely he'll purchase sweets this Saturday. This is a sound inductive argument. Next, 60 percent of men who are six feet tall and above have purchased sweets every Saturday since they were twelve. It's likely that Athias will purchase sweets this Saturday as well. This argument is unsound. There's no empirical data on Athias in determining the prospect, just the group in which he is categorized.All the statistic can tell you is that which it observes at the moment, which is already based on an assumption using "confidence intervals." You can make an inductive argument assuming all conditions remain the same, but that'll never tell "what is likely?"
What's your hypothesis regarding poverty and crime? 100% coincidence?
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@Athias
Where did he state that debt wasn't bad?
Where he mentions that you should learn to use debt as money (borrow fiat to trade real assets, like real estate).
I do agree with him that the baby boomers who are now retiring are going to be a huge problem.
I'm surprised you haven't suggested a "Logan's Run" solution.
Oh, sure, ok, please explain your road-map to a better system. I'm all ears.Get rid of taxation; get of rid of centralized governments; privatize everything. Let policy be subject to the free-market. Does this not suffice?
Do you really trust corporations to "do the right thing"?
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@Athias
Don't help them, just wait until they commit criminal acts and then pay $31,000.00 per prisoner per year. Sounds great.First, not subsidizing them is not the same as not helping them; second, are you under the impression that because there's a correlation between poverty and crime that your cum hoc ergo propter hoc argument is valid--i.e. criminality is inevitable among the poor? Weren't you the one that created the thread, "Poor = Bad," where you contradicted that notion?
People who have basic food, clothing and shelter are less desperate and less likely to become criminals.
Are you suggesting that criminal behavior is an inscrutable mystery that can never be mitigated or resolved?
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@Greyparrot
What if robots can out-think and out-perform humans?Cloning, artificial fetal selection, DNA engineering, and a return to the survival of the fittest.
Should we just let all the flesh bags die out?
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@Greyparrot
Do you have any suggestions to repair this "problem"?Just poor people with bad DNA and poor lifestyle choices.
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@Athias
Public schools cost $20,000.00 per year per-child. Most families with 3 kids don't make $60,000.00 per year.Then perhaps it would behoove us all to not subsidize the behavior of those who don't plan for their families.
Don't help them, just wait until they commit criminal acts and then pay $31,000.00 per prisoner per year. Sounds great.
This is demonstrably false. Debt-free corporations have no chance of competing with Debt-full corporations.Please demonstrate this falsehood.
Try this, [LINK]
Please explain your road-map to utopia. I'm all ears.Did I mention "utopia"? Is getting rid of taxation utopian? Or the government itself? How?I speak not of "utopia" but of "approach." And that approach is autarchy (not to be confused with autocracy.) Does that not suffice?
Oh, sure, ok, please explain your road-map to a better system. I'm all ears.
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@Greyparrot
Mass collected 1 billion from the poor last year through lottery tickets.
People love to buy hope and lies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@Alec
Yikes.Most of the taxes except the adult american tax is pretty small in cost, and I don't have a rape victim tax. I do have a rape tax because rape is evil. I have an unintended pregnancy tax to discourage people from having premarital sex. I have an STD tax to encourage more people to get their STDs treated. Alcohol should be discouraged with a tax. Same with smoking. The adultery tax is supposed to discourage non consenting adultery. Adultery breaks families apart.
So, zero privacy and zero freedom. Nice.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I wish. Can we get these people to help make it that way?"The United States Political System is Overall Meritocratic in Nature"
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Do you believe that every infant has an equally fair shot at becoming a billionaire?You might actually be surprised on how many people would say yes to this...
Would you care to make such a case?
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
I think your idea is headed in the right direction, but rather pay people to do good we could reward people when they do good.a system could be put in place where a child/parent is rewarded for grades or staying out of trouble, perhaps doing community service, mentoring etc
I agree. I'm not 100% confident but I've toyed around with an idea that citizens get a bonus at the end of the year if they get no traffic tickets or criminal charges. This bonus would scale with inflation and increase by some small percentage each year, rewarding someone who has been a good citizen for 3, 4 or 5 years in-a-row more than someone who has only gone 1 year without an incident.
this money would be kept for college/trade school, whatever. Again I remember seeing it but don't recall the name. High risk kids in a very poor area had the opportunity to earn money by meeting very low standards, like showing up for school and getting at least a C average, if you got higher the reward reflected it.
Good idea. Fix-US should include a similar incentive. I'm thinking brain-scans would be the most comprehensive measure of overall health. [LINK]
they could get as much as $100, I don't recall the exact criteria or time frame.I would like your idea to be more of a reward/earned system rather than an entitlement.
Whatever you want to call it. My focus is on the function of a peaceful society.
There's a happy medium between the ideas imo.They system needs to be setup so you earn your way to the total freedom of your idea. Some will not have the competency or ability to handle such a system as you described.
We will likely need an alternative system for the bottom 10% of the IQ range (lead poisoned). Even the military can't find an effective way to exploit them. [LINK]
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
there is so much that could and needs to be done.
Details please.
Society can't be fixed because there's just no honest will to do so.
You have no plan because you IMAGINE the task is impossible? TRY FORMULATING A PLAN.
Don't just throw your hands in the air (and wave them like you just don't care).
I'm not sure if it's still a thing, but kids would be robbed for their name brand sneakers.
Yes, crime is the problem we're trying to solve. People have been stealing things for thousands of years.
People have become attention whores.
People who don't get enough healthy attention from their parents as children become obsessed with getting people to look at them.
Also there's a natural spike in the pursuit of social-acceptance in the teen years that appears to be part of normal development.
Then there's the hypersexual tv, video games, clothing etc etc Drugs and crime are glorified.
Fertility goddess idols are some of the oldest objects made by humans. Sex and violence are nothing new.
Drugs are dopamine triggers. The solution to this particular "problem" is, [LINK]
They seem to like these life styles and only a few rise above it, those are the ones who succeed.
Part of the confusion over the whole issue is about how to measure "success".
Is the man who lives a working-class lifestyle with a 40 year long marriage and 3 happy children better (for society) than the billionaire rock-star sociopath entrepreneur?
Throwing money at a problem doesn't work, it never really has afaik.
Throwing money at bureaucracy is often inefficient. Throwing money at government is often inefficient.
Throwing money at individuals is often more productive than you might expect. [LINK]
Let's try to rely less on our hunches and more on COLD HARD DATA.
To you believe the money that went to Baltimore was used appropriately? Talk about a tale of 2 cities.
Throwing money at bureaucracy is often inefficient. Throwing money at government is often inefficient.
If you don't like the word alpha we can use strong leader, positive role model whatever, I find them interchangeable in this context.
I don't care what word you use. ALPHA MALE is a popular (and I believe toxic) ideal.
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@Athias
The professor from your video not only focuses entirely on just federal taxes (state, local, and perhaps fica taxes notwithstanding,) but also neglects to mention that federal transfers are subject to taxation as they are a part of personal income--and that assumes that the entirety of those specific taxed demographics collect on the entirety of the federal transfers available. You may want to redo those numbers or cite a more detailed analysis of taxation. What would be the issue with eliminating taxation?
The lower levels still get back more in benefits than they pay in. Public schools cost $20,000.00 per year per-child. Most families with 3 kids don't make $60,000.00 per year.
#2 as an individual, debt = bad. I get it. However, if you run a business, especially real-estate, debt = good.Debt is always bad. One is borrowing against one's future (definite) when one incurs debt; so it's incumbent upon on one to redeem this loss and turn a profit through investment (indefinite.)
This is demonstrably false. Debt-free corporations have no chance of competing with Debt-full corporations.
But what you seem to be forgetting is that all of the rules for individuals and for individual businesses DO NOT APPLY TO GOVERNMENT DEBT.We live in an incoherent system where basic principles that are true on one scale are absolutely NOT true on other scales.So do away with the incoherent system. Does that not suffice?
Please explain your road-map to utopia. I'm all ears.
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@Greyparrot
Of the 500 estimated serial killers in U.S. history, 16 percent were adopted as children, while adoptees represent only 2 or 3 percent of the general population.Okay....and out of those 500 how many had no father in the home???
Adopted children are OVER-REPRESENTED in serial killer demographics.
We don't actually disagree.
HOW DO YOU PROPOSE WE FIX THE MISSING FATHER PROBLEM??????????????????????????????????///
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
I thought the point was obvious but I'll expand it I guess. The aggression, lack of morals, self control, responsibility, is, in large part, due to the lack of a dominant role model to keep them in check and teach them.
There seems to be a strong interest in the "ALPHA MALE" idea at the moment.
This has escalated to the increased violence we see today.
When young men are told they should be "ALPHA MALE", this tends to escalate violence.
Society is becoming more and more desensitized to the violence for a number of reasons.
How do our heroes in popular culture solve their problems? Deadpool, Punisher, Bat-man, Spider-man, Super-man, they all resort to physical violence. [LINK]
As the number of "feral" children increase the crime probably will.
Oh, you mean children whose parent has to work long hours in order to pay rent?
The Walgreens raid is a pretty good example. These braisen events will increase in frequency and intensity.Consider this, lack of consequence for many who rioted and burned down businesses which they called "protests"Now these organized robberies and looting with little to no consequences. For many and the number is increasing there is no fear of prison or consequences. The social moral decay is at a crisis imo.
We agree that criminals should be assigned punishment proportional to their crime.
The point here is to try and solve the problem of criminal behavior BEFORE it happens.
Throwing poor children from single parent families in prison costs $31,000.00 per person per year. And once they're "in the system" they have an 80% chance of being in prison for the rest of their lives.
Immigrant detainees cost $73,000 per person per year.
DOESN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO SPEND HALF THAT TO PROVIDE BASIC FOOD, CLOTHING AND SHELTER FOR THESE PEOPLE?
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
We already agree that families with both birth parents are ideal.many kill their own kind far less often, so yes maybe we should be. boys growing up with not positive role models is a huge factor. I know you know this and are just trying to be unnecessarily argumentative. You can pretend you don't follow the analogy but I know you are much smarter than that. Some moms can fill that role to a point but it's not the same and we are seeing the results. How many criminals are from traditional homes compared to broken homes? I only bring that up for other readers since you know darn well it's a major causative factor.
What is your proposal to "fix" single parent families?
Ripping children away from their birth parent does NOT improve outcomes.
Here's what "natural law" and "natural order" looks like, [LINK]
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
lol I'd hardly call what she was doing child abuse given the size/age disparity, more like tough love. Point is she was not going to tolerate his behavior and was involved in what he was doing, what he does at some level, unlike a child waving what looks like a real gun around at a school yard.This really isn't all that uncommon a thing. Even in nature. Can't tell you the name but you could probably find it. The bull/alpha male of an elephant herd was killed, the juveniles became aggressive, tearing up the local villages and even attacking and injuring other elephants. Long story short, they brought in another adult to be the alpha and all of the behavior went away. The dominant male or female keeps the younger and subordinates in line, humans aren't that much different imo.
I get it. We should act more like animals.
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@Greyparrot
Here's another data point for you, http://crimemagazine.com/adoption-forensics-connection-between-adoption-and-murder
I also overheard a conversation recently where a woman was explaining that her husband was the victim of a crime in a parking lot, and CPS took her child away because the kid had witnessed the crime. It seems we are a little too quick to demonize parents because we imagine the children will automatically be better off with someone else, even though there doesn't appear to be any hard evidence to support this hypothesis.
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@Greyparrot
Problem Behavior in Kindergarten and First Grade
Where's your study that suggests adopted parents provide better outcomes than a single birth parent?
Early anti-social behavior is a key risk factor, [LINK]
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
I'm not sure more child abuse will fix any of this....remember the mom who grabbed her son and beat him because he was with antifa? More of that needs to happen.
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@Alec
My measure to prevent this is to ban smash and dash.
How do you propose enforcing such a law?
The husband can find a better job that doesn't require a college degree.
Are you aware that the #1 job for non-college graduate men in America is "driver" (truck, taxi, delivery)?
Are you aware that these jobs will be eliminated by self-driving-cars?
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Many people seem to think that poor people are poor primarily because they are bad people.
Poor people are lazy, fundamentally and incurably stupid and/or evil (criminal), or intellectually deaf and blind.
Case closed. Let's all go back to our bubbles.
For example,
We reason that it's ok for Mario to kill goombas because they're dumb and they're in his way. [LINK]
POOR = BAD IS A MYTH.
It's the same myth that allowed American settlers to massacre scores of "godless heathen savages" because they're dumb and they're in their way.
Let me ask you a question,
(1) Do you believe that every infant has an equally fair shot at becoming a billionaire?
I'm going to guess you would answer "no".
Let me ask you another question,
(2) What do you believe are the primary factors that grant some infants an ADVANTAGE over the others?
Here's an interesting hypothesis, [LINK]
Your scathing critique is requested.
+proHUMAN +proFAMILY
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@TheRealNihilist
DATA. YOU NEED DATA. FIND SOME DATA.
Niehaus says for him, the most interesting results from the new research were the improvements in mental health. Getting money made people happier, less stressed out. [LINK]
Their research showed that the vast majority of those who took part in the study used the additional income to invest in other income-generating opportunities, like livestock.
The money also allowed children to pursue their education, instead of working to help make ends meet at home. The overall indication of the pilot, was that it could give people the ability to bring themselves out of poverty, and raise a healthier, better-educated populace. [LINK]
What do you mean "most poor people are bad with money"? Based on what?
Paul Niehaus, one of GiveDirectly's founders, does think cash can have long-lasting effects. He points to a similar study in Uganda where the government gave people money and people's incomes went up — and stayed up, even years later. People had used the money to start small businesses, like metal working or tailoring clothes.
UNICEF provided the equivalent of $1 million to the pilot, and Davala and Standing gave the local government regular updates on the success of the pilot every three months.
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@Greyparrot
I already told you. Start rewarding parents for residing together and stop rewarding the ones who reside alone. If you don't want to do the best thing for your child and raise him in a 2 parent environment, then put the kid(s) up for adoption.Stop glorifying and supporting single-parent households, it's not helping the kids at all. The data is very clear on this.
Adopted children have far worse outcomes than single parent (biological parent) homes. [LINK]
WE AGREE that two biological parents is better than one. But tearing a child, even an infant, away from its biological parent is a human atrocity. [LINK]
HERE'S ANOTHER BONUS. $20,000.00 per year per-child would END ABORTION.
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@Athias
I'm not talking about reducing/cutting taxes; I stating to eliminate it all together. The government can service its current debt with its gold stock, spr's, and land; it can default on its future obligations (i.e. social security, government pensions, welfare programs, etc.) And the bank sponsored politician (which is likely all of them) can service the rest of the debt by selling their own assets. Does this not suffice?
#1 the EFFECTIVE tax rate for people who make $31,300.00-$52,999.99 is -39% that is A SUBSIDY (BONUS, FREE MONEY) EQUAL TO 39% of their earned income. PAYING TAXES MAKES YOU RICHER THAN NOT PAYING TAXES.
If you make less than $88,700.00 a year, you not only pay NO TAXES, but you GET MORE BACK (federal transfers) THAN YOU PUT IN.
Effective Tax Rates,
Poorest 20% -- gets 56% back
Next 20% -- gets 39% back
Middle 20% -- gets 15% back
Next richest 20% -- pays 3%
Top 1% -- pays 34%
RIGHT NOW. IN THE CURRENT SYSTEM. [LINK]
#2 as an individual, debt = bad. I get it. However, if you run a business, especially real-estate, debt = good.
But what you seem to be forgetting is that all of the rules for individuals and for individual businesses DO NOT APPLY TO GOVERNMENT DEBT.
We live in an incoherent system where basic principles that are true on one scale are absolutely NOT true on other scales. [LINK]
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@TheRealNihilist
What if the mother automatically received $20,000.00 per year per-child.Like I said in a poorer household more often than not the wife would also have to work which would mean either the husband gets lucky with a high wage (isn't likely) or they will be both financially worse for having a child because both of them are not working and of course the financial burden that is a child. So basically the poor family is screwed during and after the pregnancy given how much money is lost.
That would probably solve the "abortion problem" overnight! [LINK]
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@RoderickSpode
Like this guy, [LINK]If we can acknowledge that the Bible is a complex form of literature, then we all (even Christians) have to acknowledge that we're just not capable of understanding scripture like we would a modern day instruction manual that we can throw away once we understand it.
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