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@Greyparrot
You have not answered the questions at all. Sheeping him into a wagon, obviously lurking since you're still on, but not following him off the wagon when he unvoted.And again, who do you die from visiting? If no one, then what was your whole conversation with Wylted about in DP1?Barnie this is ridiculous...
Nice OMGUS deflection. You aren't even attempting to explain yourself.
So GG scum. Play better next time.
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@RationalMadman
What other major role customizations has pie done? If you're telling the truth that any kill depowers you, then you're at +2 votes already; and were an easy lynch on DP3 for being at +1 votes.
Scum might have caught your exact description, but I don't have the time to dig back through DP1 for your flavor claim.
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@RationalMadman
You've been acting like a dog with a bone for whiteflame all game. Your grudge against him, makes your reads unreliable since they're not based on what happened in this game.
He could be scum, hence I did not tag him in that emergency VTL, but GP is basically confirmed scum since he's been caught blatantly lying about his role.
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@RationalMadman
Senators go to +2 according to the wiki. If you are some special variant, please link the post where you described it.
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@Greyparrot
You have not answered the questions at all. Sheeping him into a wagon, obviously lurking since you're still on, but not following him off the wagon when he unvoted.
And again, who do you die from visiting? If no one, then what was your whole conversation with Wylted about in DP1?
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@RationalMadman
@SirAnonymous
In case RM is telling the truth, which I doubt, we need to end this before any scum gets on.
VTL Greyparrot.
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@RationalMadman
NoEven deaths reduce it. In other words no matter what once 3 are dead I lose it.
Dude, if that was true, you'd be at -2 or even -3. Meaning any lone scum could kill you, if you did not just die at the start of this day phase.
Plus, that's not what the role description says:
SenatorThe Senator is a mafia-aligned player that starts the game with -3 votes on them. This value will increase by +1 for each day that a town-aligned player is lynched to a maximum of +2.
Were I scum, I'd vote you right not to end this game.
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@Greyparrot
Why were you so quick to vote, and then refuse to follow RMs lead when he unvoted?
You're caught either way. You haven't died from visiting scum or town, not that your visits can be confirmed. With no sign of third parties, if I'm wrong then what was all your talk with Wylted about in DP1 that you'd die if you visited the wrong person?
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@RationalMadman
You lose one level of protection with each mislynch. That would make it take everyone except you voting for you to lynch. If I was scum, that would be my wet dream.
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@RationalMadman
I'd bet money he's lying about being 1x. A lie to keep himself from being killed that night for being a protective role makes sense.
Me, I've tried to get scums attention a few times to be targeted for the NK.
All of our worries about a third party came from GP and Wylted implying GP would die if he visited the wrong team. If he dies for visiting town, that would just be messed up. He could also be a lost mafia member (I can't remember the term for it, but I saw it in a game on here awhile back) where they have to visit someone on their team to get into the family groupchat.
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Potential teams:
GP and whiteflame having infighting. For which I am not hammering when my scum read is more strongly on GP.
GP and myself... I'd have quick hammered with GP and RM way earlier.
GP and SirAnon, SirAnon is confirmed town. If he doesn't quick hammer when he gets on, he'll be double confirmed town.
GP and RM, the game would be broken if mafia could have someone who's lynchproof. Pie might make mistakes, but he's not an intentional bastard mod.
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@RationalMadman
Analysis says WF or GP are scum. Therefore, one of them is lying about their roles. If either is, which would it be and to what real role for the game to balance?
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@RationalMadman
Why wouldn't they have recruited you for lynch immunity?
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@RationalMadman
You're town or the setup is broken, SirAnon is confirmed town for not mislynching me (I know you promised he's scum if he didn't join one of your wagons, but at this point come on!).
That leaves GP, WF, and myself for the lynch discussions.
As I stated above, if I was Yakuza I'd be dead from converting someone.
YakuzaRole Description:
The Yakuza may on any night choose to target a player and self-sacrifice in order to convert that player to the mafia team.
If I were scum with any type of converting role, I'd have targeted you NP1 for being effectively lynch proof. I'd bet the same of everyone here.
Also, if there's two scum left, a Yakuza self sacrificing would have given their team victory by now. If there's one scum left, they'd still have used it by now to switch the scum to a power role.
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@whiteflame
where did GP state that his visiting a TP role could get him killed? Did he breadcrumb that somewhere?
DP1 he and Wylted talked as if that was the case. I believe that why we've let this third party discussion keep coming back, since if he wasn't misdirecting us, then there had to be a third party or else he would die if he visited scum. We can verify with his own words that hasn't happened.
So I guarantee GP is lying about his role.
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Speaking of which, did you RB SirAnon?
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@Greyparrot
i am a simple visitor. no flavor
Back in DP1 when you were chatting with Wylted, you were trying to verify if he was safe to visit... But now you're claiming you had no danger from visiting anyone?
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well make your best guess who town is RM, I have faith in your genius.
Wow, GP doesn't explain his burst of speed to get on a wagon when he's otherwise been lurking all game, and now he's buddying to RM that hard... Wow, just wow!
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@RationalMadman
Is Lancelot allowed to post in live games if he is not in them?
It's to be discouraged as a matter of etiquette, but it's not a TOS violation.
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Got to say, the site update is harming my ability to review past days. Before I could click into a users forum posts to follow along what they did.
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At this point SirAnon must be town. He could have lied and said I visited Badger; it would be an easy mislynch.
I don't believe RM has the composure to fake things for this long. He's had his dumb moments sure such as dividing the town vote off of Wylted, but anti-town doesn't always equate to actual scum (as we saw with Badger and That2User).
Whiteflame... He's been off my radar due to RM's OMGUS type logic hyper fixating on him. He claims to have blocked That2, but such cannot be confirmed. However, something made SirAnon's following of him fail. Since Wylted was immune to investigations, it seems unlikely that two scum would have such abilities. So my money is on him having lied about being only 1x.
Greyparrot a compulsive visitor... One thing that isn't sitting right with me is him dying if he visits the wrong person. It's pretty safe to say there's no third party, so I doubt his PM would have special rules for those; and he's visited both scum and town. Other than that sheriff who can convert to a vig, I am not seeing any customizations to the roles.
Last but not least Barney. I don't think I could be a Ninja since Wylted was an electrician. And I can confirm I'm not a Yakuza since I haven't died.
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Player Character Role Notes
Greyparrot Tony Evers (M/Dem) Compulsive Visitor Visited Wylted NP1, Barney NP2, Barney NP3
SirAnonymous Kim Reynolds (F/Rep) 2x Tracker Followed whiteflame NP2 (failed), Barney NP3
RIP
I will note that That2User was mentioning Ron DeSantis as if it was his role. I asked him or Supa to verify, but never got an answer, then DP3 ended before I could do an update.
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@SirAnonymous
Also, nobody vote until town is ready to agree on a lynch, or mafia can win with a quickhammer.
Agreed.
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@Greyparrot
Just got out of the shower, and had a thought.
We had a purifier... If you're a third party arsonist or something like that, well played!
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I'm off to watch Ant Man: Quantomania. But here's the partially updated dashboard; anyone feel free to copy/paste and update it with things I've missed.
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Player Character Role
Barney Greg Abbott (M/Rep) Bulletproof
Greyparrot Evers (M/Dem) Visiting Role (visited Wylted NP1)
SirAnonymous . Tracker
RationalMadman Mike DeWine (M/Rep) Senator
RIP
Austin Joe Lombardo Sheriff
Wylted Jay Inslee (M/Dem) "Hitler"
SupaDudz Ron DeSantis Governor
Badger . Wizard
That2User Ron DeSantis Miller
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@RationalMadman
barney your turn to full claim
A half hour after I claim, you pretend you didn't read it...
As for me trying to kill Wylted before the DP ended; they often end late. We just needed another non-scum to be on to hammer him in the last few minutes. Heck, if you were not focused on your grudge against WF you could have done it.
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@RationalMadman
@Greyparrot
@whiteflame
@SirAnonymous
Well, I was right that Badger was lying and doing a shit job of it.
I thought he'd try to kill me in the night to shut me up; which in it of itself would have confirmed my role and that I'm town when it failed.
I'm a lone star from Texas who stands my ground and survives impeachment attempts. I am Greg Abbott, and I am bulletproof.
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@SirAnonymous
Surprised you're still alive. Who did you follow last night?
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Oh got to say with the ratings issues, it's a safe bet that moderators can override it by request.
That said, I see potential value in having an unrated debate (one, not five) completed before initiating rated debates (noob sniping not boosting ELO... but I would guess noobs can join rated debates even if not initiate them, so I don't think it will work).
From a coding perspective, I applaud Mike's efforts. This is afterall a hobby for him, so him trying out more advanced coding like that, is nice to see (it reminds us this site is still in beta... I mean it will always be in beta, like a lot of early access games, but still).
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@Sir.Lancelot
Dude, let me know if you'd like help with coding. I need the practice!
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@badger
If we’re both alive tomorrow, please use your day vig power on me…
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@Greyparrot
Does anything kill you during your visits, or is it kinda a fluff thing to confuse trackers?
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I’m susing Badger and Wylted. Willing to lunch either today after information is shared.
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@badger
When does your power kill Wylted? Pretty sure you said noon.
It was a claim which took a lot of pressure off him, since we thought he’d be dead by now.
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@Greyparrot
You say you visited people. Please give details on what you learned?
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@badger
Please link the post where you described your role.
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what would the balance have to be if there’s a third party?
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When I’m home tonight I’ll do an updated dashboard.
Did a little reading, and I’m bothered by Badger’s claim. Shouldn’t Wylted be dead by now?
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FYI, don't expect any reliable activity from me tomorrow. I'm driving a friends dad to a couple doctor appointments, and then going to an anti-Valentines pub crawl.
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RIP
Austin Joe Lombardo Sheriff
Wylted Jay Inslee (M/Dem) "Hitler"
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@Vader
Just to make sure, what is your character claim? If you don't reply in time, please clarify next DP.
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Since it seems the DP could end any moment now, I'll post this as a WIP.
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Player Character Role
Barney M/Rep .
Whiteflame Phil Scott (M/Rep) .
That2User . "Vanilla"
Badger . High Noon (killed Wylted DP2)
Greyparrot Evers (M/Dem) Visiting Role (visited Wylted NP1)
SirAnonymous . .
SupaDudz Ron DeSantis Governor
RationalMadman Mike DeWine (M/Rep) Senator
RIP
Austin F? Sheriff
Wylted Jay Inslee (M/Dem) "Hitler"
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@SirAnonymous
Working on it.
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Player Character Role
Barney M/Rep .
Whiteflame Phil Scott (M/Rep) .
Wylted Jay Inslee (M/Dem) "Hitler"
That2User . "Vanilla"
Badger . .
Greyparrot Evers (M/Dem) .
SirAnonymous . .
SupaDudz . Governor
RationalMadman M/Rep Senator
RIP
Austin F? Sheriff
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@SirAnonymous
Thanks for the heads up.
I don't even need to get caught up yet...
VTL That2User
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@That2User
I thought you wanted me to vote Wylted? Who we are pretty sure is tp, whereas I'm null on wf.
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@RationalMadman
Wylted is a gladiator that can make a modkill happen thats just weird
I don't buy that. I think modkill was independent, and he was BSing
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The false alarm counter claim marks Supa as safely in my town pile. I doubt he'd be composed enough to try that as a gambit.
I still think RM is town, but if I did think otherwise it'd be fruitless to vote him today. He's basically immune until we screw up (which is a pretty neat mechanic, but probably best for larger games than this).
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Player Character Role
Austin F? .
Barney M/Rep .
Whiteflame Phil Scott (M/Rep) .
Wylted Jay Inslee (M/Dem) "Hitler"
That2User . .
Badger . .
Greyparrot Evers (M/Dem) .
SirAnonymous . .
SupaDudz . Governor
RationalMadman M/Rep Senator
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@Vader
Wait did RM claim Governor??
He claimed Senator. Slightly different.
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Player Character Role
Austin F? .
Barney M/Rep .
Whiteflame Phil Scott (M/Rep) .
Wylted Jay Inslee (M/Dem) "Hitler"
That2User . .
Badger . .
Greyparrot Evers (M/Dem) .
SirAnonymous . .
SupaDudz . Governor
RationalMadman M/Rep Senator
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@RationalMadman
@Greyparrot
@whiteflame
@SirAnonymous
@badger
Thoughts on Wylted leading an alt right cult? Perhaps his real role is some governor who was accused of being "Literally Hitler"?
Actually, scratch that, he might be telling his real character, since Inslee really was accused of being a nazi https://komonews.com/news/local/pictures-of-gov-inslee-in-nazi-uniform-at-brewery-stir-controversy-08-05-2020
Not trusting his role claim, seems like he wants people to flood towards him.
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On second thought, she's a purifier for solving the Flint Water Crisis?!
Flint still doesn't have clean drinking water. If memory serves, they ever gave clean water to a car plant rather than to the people.
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When I searched for the role Purifier, I initially just found deprogrammer https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Deprogrammer
Managed to find it https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Purifier
So purifier also helps cancel out cult recruitment. So if he's not lying, perhaps Wylted is leading a third party cult?
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Player Character Role
Austin F? .
Barney M/Rep .
Whiteflame Phil Scott (M/Rep) .
Wylted Jay Inslee (M/Dem) "Hitler"
That2User . .
Badger . .
Greyparrot Evers (M/Dem) .
SirAnonymous . .
SupaDudz . Confirmable
RationalMadman M/Rep Senator
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In case the DP ends prematurely and I die in the night...
I have two fun political debates in motion right now, both centered on the Gender Pay Gap. Please read and vote on them (for either side) when they're finished. I promise they are not dull walls of text.
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