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@drafterman
If Mafia has one of the special abilities, they can pass it back and forth silently. If we know the chain of transference, we can lynch as a countermeasure.
Speaking of which, Mafia lacks a NK, so...
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@drafterman
Toward the end of the game there's going to be a lot of analysis of where items were at what times. Making that easier, I am giving a clear start point for one of them.
Plus it opens up discussion for whatever scheme can be used to pass the other two.
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In the interest of avoiding Mafia doing power consolidation in the shadows, I am the mechanic.
Unless given a reason not to, tonight I'll be passing my ability on at random to Speedrace.
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@Mikal
...I actually hate DP1 anyway, typically nothing is gained from it more often than not , so won't be missing much
Well said.
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@Lunatic
/in
Slight confusion about the role passing... The mechanic fixes things and passes via that, but wouldn't that put both abilities on that one person?
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@Salixes
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You started a topic designed to provoke, and then respond to concise half line disagreement of your interpretation with five paragraph rant rife with insults.
You have access to the CoC, the special warning at the top of this forum, and similarly the etiquette guide also at the top of this forum. All the tools to behave civilly when discussing/debating/trolling religion are there for you to use.
Simply put, behave or we'll more directly help you behave.
-Ragnar, DM
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@Lunatic
Given that you've previously openly admitted that you being town is an advantage to mafia, I would be fine with you being mislynched.What? Where did I say this?
Speedrace - Quickfire Mafia - DP1, #67
You called mafia NKing you to be a noob mistake due to how useful you are to mafia. As I already called you out on in my very next post that game.
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@Lunatic
Given that you've previously openly admitted that you being town is an advantage to mafia, I would be fine with you being mislynched. None of this changes your scum slips. Had you been town, you would have had less information to spread your attention across; thus less likely to not recognize the contents of the town PM.
Given a choice between a wholly random lynch, and lynching someone acting suspicious, I'll lynch the suspicious person every time.
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@Lunatic
Something being obvious to one who has insider information, is a scum slip.
The logic gave us a starting point. However, as with my self voting test, were Speed to have been scum he still would have been caught.
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Had Oro been on and hammered Drafter, Speed and I would have been forced to lynch him for the anti-town behavior (even if we each would have been somewhat uncertain).
Admittedly, once Drafter joined into the test (VTLing himself), I suspected he was town. However, it still gave the optimal chances at victory, even more so with Oro absent so unlikely to VTL himself if town.
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@Lunatic
@oromagi
Since you had the PM, was it a long con to have Lunatic out himself as scum while oro tried to look town by quoting it?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
The ontological argument for oromagi being scum. Just fill in the blank with a random name for 100% accurate scumhunting.
- It is possible for a maximum oromagi scum to exist.
- If a maximum oromagi scum possibly exists then it exists in some possible mafia game.
- If a maximum oromagi scum exists in some possible mafia game then it exists in all possible mafia games.
- If a maximum oromagi scum exists in all possible mafia games then they exist in this mafia game.
- If a maximum oromagi scum exists in this mafia game then oromagi is scum.
#OPstrats
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@drafterman
@oromagi
@Speedrace
So I realized there’s a reverse incentive trick to this. We can town confirm one person by them not voting, so long as the lynch victim is a team player who votes for themselves. This of course assumes we target the wrong person.
By doo g this, if we’re wrong and it’s neither Oro nor Drafter, town still has a 50% chance at victory.
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My gut feeling is either Oro or Drafter.
Drafter is quick on his feet, so if scum could figure out what Speed and I did at the start.
Mafia of course could have been given a copy of the message, or chanced that there’s was just a one word variant (town/mafia); so it could still be Oro.
Speed’s speed at recognizing what I was doing, gives favorable odds to him being town.
Of course Lunatic’s lunaticic behavior either confirms me as town, or he is playing one hell of a long con.
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@drafterman
@Speedrace
@WaterPhoenix
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Strange as it may sound, the random number generator also picks Oro (using the post #161785 as the seed).
Of course if we wanted to use the topic number instead, it would be Water.
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@BrotherDThomas
Very nice OP.
I would say if TRUE CHRISTIANS should be offended by such paintings, in a manner similar to how TRUE MUSLIMS would be, is a debate worthy topic.
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@bmdrocks21
You assume my species, and further engage in micro aggression against pigs!
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@bmdrocks21
You need to pay for my gender studies degree, you fascist!
It's not your degree, it's everyone's degree. People don't get to own things.
Also you presume gender can be studied... The horror, the horror!
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My general advice would be to ignore him or challenge him to debates.
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Switch me to a backup in case anyone needs to drop out after the start.
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- Yes
- Yes
- Yes
- No
- Rarely
- Somewhat active
- Centrist
- Yes
- Lots of things
- Recruited from DDO.
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@drafterman
I got to say that I am glad Star Trek seems to be is generally ignoring the reboots.
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@drafterman
Unless humans are defined in Star Trek by their physical strength, than Klingons being "physically stronger than most species" would set them somewhere ahead of humans on the bell curve. However, I do stand corrected, as it does not seem to be by such an extreme degree as say Vulcans.
Purely in spirit of being tasked with the challenge... Into Darkness showed both that Klingons are strong enough to casually lift a human with one hand (likely just onto her tip-toes but still impressive), and break stone with a punch (about 45 seconds and 90 seconds respectively: https://youtu.be/K0cFLb-JmaQ?t=45).
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@Singularity
There is no insult toward humans contained in my OP.
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So it's always bothered me how Picard as an old man, is as strong or even stronger than Klingons in their prime.
These shows and movies have gone through some effort to exhibit how much stronger certain other races are compared to humans. However, one episode had Picard ambushed by multiple assassins, one old human man vs multiple trained killers who have both surprise and home turf advantage... Yeah, I kinda felt sorry for them.
My suggestion is he is likely a Khan, like Ricardo Montalban or Benedict Cumberbatch.
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@oromagi
Technically that breed of mason can get scum into their chats. Unlikely the case with the Water Zar dispute suggesting one of them, but still not the confirmed town.
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Pie had a decent analysis at the end of the previous day. Unfortunately scum can kill to frame, so we shouldn't jump to any conclusions that his death was to silence him:
Ok so lemme know if I’m wrong. Zaradi claims Cop and sees a guilty on GP who lied by claiming hated town. Then Virt comes out and CCs Zaradi which is indirectly supported by WaterPhoenix who said Zaradi visited Oro NP1. Here are the possible scenarios, correct me if I’m wrongScum can be1.) Zaradi + Someone2.) Water + Virt3.) Grey + Someone4.) Grey + Zaradi (bus)Grey however has lied and per the doctrine of lynch all liars,...
In all honesty, my money is on WP right now, due to seeming to try to save GP at the end of the DP.
I'm heading to the zoo for a date. So if anyone needs me to change my vote, please tag me to get my attention. If the number of posts blows up, I won't be truly catching up until late tonight or even tomorrow morning.
VTL WaterPhoenix
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We know from DP1 that there were only two mafia, so only one remains.
X. speedrace Hayd PRINCESS Mai Valentine
X. DD geographia EXECUTIONER Ganesh
X. iLikePie5 Nympho. MOTIVATOR The Beatles
TOWN
oromagi Marauder DOCTOR Frog
Bullish SolonKR VANILLA(mason) Cindy
Ragnar antidoter MILLER Bajoran
Zaradi endark COP lannan13 [CC]
Virtuoso 1htuthink Cop?
waterpnx. PartamRuhem WATCHER Bugenhagen
drafterman Koopin MASON Richard Hall
SCUM
X. Greyparrot Buddamoose JANITOR Johnny Depp
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@ILikePie5
I'm available as a replacement if that becomes needed. I have however been very busy lately, so I would hate to go in with people expecting full participation, when I'm VTLing without giving lengthy analysis.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
You've just shown more systemic privileges for men who sell less tickets but get greater advertising investments, in spite of their apparent inferior popularity.
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@oromagi
Would you mind building one of your lists? This is getting confusing.
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@Bullish
You wrote #33, which is what I quoted. That you're confusing your own words for Drafter's... again, you're insane.
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@drafterman
While I hate day phases that get over inflated, I do like to give people a chance to post.
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@Bullish
You're crazy:
Lets sit on this wagon until ppl get online and out their results.
Then anyone who steps back to allow your request to be honored, must be scum.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
The ontological argument for GP being scum:
- It is possible for a maximum GP scum to exist.
- If a maximum GP scum possibly exists then it exists in some possible mafia game.
- If a maximum GP scum exists in some possible mafia game then it exists in all possible mafia games.
- If a maximum GP scum exists in all possible mafia games then they exist in this mafia game.
- If a maximum GP scum exists in this mafia game then GP is scum.
Thanks to Discipulus_Didicit for creating this.
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To give more people a chance to post before we lynch him...
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While possible Zaradi is some type of insane cop (I'd assume they'd check the game and know for sure), and Drafter and Bullish are a scum team, that seems far fetched...
VTL GP
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Okay, so what's what happened:
Beloved Princess, If you are lynched, the next Day Phase will be skipped. If you are killed at night, the next Night Phase will be skipped. You win with the town.
I think I missed the part where Speed spelled that out.
So why did Mafia only make a single NK?
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
I feel weird having to spell out for you that that male sports bring in far more money than female sports do and since it's a business it should be obvious the more money you earn for a business the more you are worth to them right?
Thank you for agreeing to the premise of the pay gap. With that in place, you insist that so long as the men are pulling in more money, it's not a privilege...
Except womens soccer actually pulls in more money:
"From 2016 to 2018, women's games generated about $50.8 million in revenue compared with $49.9 million for the men, according to U.S. soccer's audited financial statements. In 2016, the year after the World Cup, the women generated $1.9 million more than the men." -The Wall Street Journal
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@BrotherDThomas
Saying the correct term for someone is [insult you were specifically warned against using], you are continuing to use the insult.
Just imagine the bad stereotype of a racist police officer pulling over a car for having a black driver, and explaining to said driver that sensitivity training now prohibits him from calling the driver an [expletive] but that doesn't mean the driver is not an [expletive]. He's still used the exact curse in regards to the driver.
What's more, the description of runaway seems an ill fit. For all of Ethang's faults, he's feverish in his determination.
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