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Yep, thanks RationalMadMan. 

I fully agree with you! I will still be responding tomorrow regardless, I just don't have energy to write out everything I want. It will be your choice if you respond after that or not, since you seem to belittle me every chance. 

Thanks! 

I was off this website for awhile again, lots of responses to handle. However, I understand your point.

Glad to see it, at least more than other people. I'm really just seeing why some men feel that certain way. 

I'll reply to you later, RationalMadMan, since you're so eager.

It's just longer than other responses, and I'd like to be thoughtful and gratifying with a similar combating response.

I appreciate your response. 

- More competitive and aggressive..

Would you not consider that a con? Consider if men are more competitive and aggressive, that just leans towards women being rational and logical thinkers. Rather considering that a victory, decide that a negative. If men tend to lead based off emotions and feelings quite often, they don't have the same skills that women have for intellectual thinking.

- More men are geniuses..

If we generalize it, women tend to dominate in their studies. Having greater rates in graduating, grades, and overall surpassing men.

That goes for all around the world.

 

- Men earn more money and dominate in entertaining 

Nothing to swank and boast about, that is patriarchy leaned onto women unfairly. 

That does not make men superior, but rather pampered.

Not only, but most great roles are written for men, once again, another unfair factor.

Keep in mind, women dominate with better rates in other work spaces (surgeries for example), yet still in most cases get less of a pay.

- Men uphold the economy and advanced jobs

If we consider medicine, then we can also consider healthcare, and women dominate in that field (worldwide)..

The legal profession is dominated by men only because of stubborn male enforcement that enforces discrimination, abuse, and forbade against women.

Ever notice why we have an increase in women for these jobs? It's because they have finally been "granted" that opportunity, and with their academic relations, they could succeed further than men. 

You mention men being stronger, well, I'm going to repeat what I've said before..

Are gorillas superior because they're stronger?

Are women superior to gorillas because they're stronger?

Going by that logic, women are superior in the case of dominating.

Most of your point is "more men are in this field", because women were jobless by force for centuries, and still are discriminated against.

That being said, just because men dominate that field, does not mean they do better in that field either.

Unfortunately, that does not prove how men are superior.

If they fail in most attributes, they are considered less superior, and more so overpopulating in stupidity.

Oh calm your horses, RationalMadMan.

I'm getting to everything now.

Christianity is not my belief, and I will not apply it to objective reality. 

Even if we did use the Bible.. 

How do we apply the logic to single females? 

Disregarding that factor, I ask you read the link below for your understanding of the Bible in that passage, and in general. 

https://medium.com/@damilolawrites/does-the-bible-support-male-superiority-57a12c2bf810

Better in physical strength, yet not mentally.

Women tend to dominate in studies as they tend to keep higher grades, graduate, and surpass men. We usually see that pattern across the world. 

Ever wonder why there is an increase in women in physical workplaces?.. Maybe because women were "granted" that opportunity rather later. 

And instead of comparing just parenting skills, we can see that same pattern of intelligence with rational thinking. Women also dominate when it comes to rational thinking. 

Good to know! 

And I wouldn't suppose it would be 0.2 inches as well? 

Men are superior, yet can't birth their children through that superior penis of theirs? Sounds about right.. 

I would never, ever! 

How could you think that Mr. Walker? 

Either you do or don't believe men are superior to women. 

I'm not looking for the loopholes of "well we are biologically stronger" by one case. 

I'm asking, are men superior than women, in general? And how so?

In general, are men superior to women?

Any men wanting to step up? 

I'm curious.. what makes men superior to women (in general)? 

I just wish for people with actual commitments. 

With no sort of prejudice, id even consider some of the mods (whom may even move on themselves shortly), and just anyone with actual commitment to debating. Though I doubt most people have that time, or well.. will reappear per say. 

I don't have much to say besides look for someone that's practically not even on the website. Someone thats outside the website wanting to run their own website or even a current debate website thats willing to take control and ownership to boost this website. Otherwise, it may just be a blank website. Are you really willing to let a user with lots of indifference towards eachother have this website? Theres only a few I currently know with self-control. 

That being said, while I have been gone, good luck. Moving on from this website as owner for years is quite a lot. 

Hope your challanges get easier as you move on.. The future holds a lot, glad your moving on with all your business, like said, good luck.

Oh look, two gone. 

One went, the other followed.

Sounds like an obsession to me.

I would prefer if I be given a day or two (tommarow) and look over the details of this topic. I'm not very familiar with this topic, and if I am going to accept a certain position I need to look it over. If that's alright with the both of you?

I should be winning the debate below; concession.

So I am now at 15 points.

Not sure how long we have left (as you extended), or if it will go directly to a bonus round. 

Depending on your answer, I might or might not start up another debate topic.

Ask yourself the question between "DebateArt is dying" and "DebateArt is already dead".

Compared to other debating websites i've seen, this isn't to bad.

Otherwise in general terms, yes, probably so.

I'm on good terms with him, and from what i've seen he tends to try and keep it that way with everyone regardless.

Nothing much to say other than, I didn't talk to him much and I didn't know him well. I guess that's with everyone on this website so far.

Change your mind, or not. That's up to you, Slainte.

So, all left to say is, see you around Slainte.

Alright.. Can we create debates as an open challenge?

I don't know. I have never got excited or really wanted to vote on a debate.

It was manly just because I was requested.

That said: 

Anything to do with homosexuality, that includes homosexual marriage.

Anything to do with feminism (feminst ideals, etc).

Anything to do with femboys.

Trans community, abortions, standardized testing, rehabilitation versus prison.

I would love to debate any of these as much as voting.

Maybe not for others, but that's not the case for me and hopefully other debaters. I can't even call that a debate anymore.

Sure, you want to win.

But my main focus here is not to win (though I do), but to debate with others opinions and argumentative responses. When people disregard that, it's not interesting. It made the whole purpose of debating the topic worthless.

When I debate a topic, i'm there to debate, not for an easy win.

Depends on what you mean by "okay". 

If i'm debating someone and they completely ignored my arguments like I figured you did here:

^ This also shows an example of how it will usually go with votes.

It just comes across as ignorant. As the contender or instigator, it wouldn't be a 'fun' or 'interesting' debate anymore.

If you mean okay to do, as in with voters, probably not.

If your contentions rebuttal, without actually directly rebuttaling, it's possible, yes.

But usually no. You drop all your opponents responses while they are rebuttaling your claims and extending their own.

With their contentions let alone and untouched, it makes all of their claims in this case 'true' while your own are being attacked and don't seem as reliable.

Overall, no.

Easy answer: Go to Japan.

I never said that, but I get your point.

My focus was based on transgender surgery.

I think parent's should allow children to indulge in their interests, as well, as long as appropriate.

As I stated above though ^^, parent's should have a right on how they address them.

Their beliefs may differ from the childs, and that's fine. Like I said, I think people should for respect and comfort but it's up to them. We shouldn't force anothers hand to bend them into liking what "we" believe.

Parent's should however, allow children to wear whatever they want. As it is the childs body, and they can handle making decisions like such.

Oh my "god", people want to do what they want with their bodies that isn't harming anyone? Wow! 

Men (trans woman or femboy) wear dresses, oh my "god", what a crime!

However..

I do agree with you on some of this. I believe that transgender children shouldn't get life-changing trans surgrey.

One moment it's just a trend or something for them, the next it's permanent.

Some are serious, yes, but some aren't. Children have guardians for a reason; To help with decisions because they are to immature to make the right decisions sometimes. It's just to protect them. 

Just like going to the doctor for shots, you may not want to, but usually parent's do that to protect you. Not with malice thought.

While some parent's are transphobic, many don't allow transgender surgery not because of dislike in their child, but to protect them.

Society shouldn't take parent's away from the child they birthed or adopted under circumstances they are protecting them (in this case of protecting).

And while I believe transwoman should be called woman/men, as part of respect, that's up to the individual. 

I think it doesn't hurt to call someone by their preferred pronouns or gender but someones beliefs may differ.

Should we force people to believe what they (transgender people) believe? No. Choose to respect that person, or don't.

Which for biological woman, they shouldn't have to share a bathroom. 

Transgender people come down to a point sometimes where it seems their comfort is the top priority and anyone who disagrees is transphobic.

So, on certain points, I agree with you.

Yeah, no problem. 

You can choose the definitions, hit me up, and we'll go from there? 

Would you be willing to do: "Cultural appropriation is harmful and should be actively discouraged. (10 points. Max Time - 3 days.)"

After your current (part of the tournament) debate is finished?

With you as con, me as pro.

Since i'm not quite sure if TheApprentice is going to respond.

Exactly.

Fuck you too.

I'm done with my recent debate and available to set the debate whenever.

As for judges, I don't mind whom.

Okay, then I won't respond? Simple as that I guess. Should've done that awhile ago. Thanks!

Mhm. My statement was disregarding yours, on purpose. Not completely, but surely some. 

You seem to do the same thing, so I did, as well. In regards to what you said, and how I would respond more effectively, just review my comments. I'm not going through round two of explaining myself. Surely you can do that?

It literally- never mind. I'll cut this short.

LOL. Glad you reacted that way. Testing waters.

Anyways, just look at my other comments. Respond directly to those. 

Also if you check on it, on the top of my article, it says APA.

It's quite literally on the APA website.

I don't think they would have something on their website, they didn't agree with.

If anything it says: 

"Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles; most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation." 

Share exactly where it says it's a choice.

Incorrect. APA itself states: 

"All people choose their partners regardless of their sexual orientation; however, the orientation itself is not a choice." 

So no, APA does not back you up.

Not exactly. Sexual attraction may not be a choice, but other things may be. 

Your body may have a feeling to hit someone, but you don't have to. That doesn't react on its own. 

Your mind may suggest to go rob a store, but you don't have to.

All those things are a choice, some things aren't. 

You cannot prove it either. 

But it isn't about proving if people have a "gay gene" or what not. This is about proving that sexual orientation is not a choice, disregarding that. So, by not responding to exactly what I was saying last comment, is it because you cannot? 

"Your body reacts to what the kind perceived through visual, smell and perhaps touch (if you allow it)" 

So, by everyday elements, that's how my sexual attraction can change? Alright, let's go by that. But when my body goes through those elements, that sexual attraction may or may not change. Do I choose to make it change? No. It changes on its own. I don't have a say, to be like, "hey, because of this can you just start making me feel attraction to females?" 

That is sexual fluidity, sexual orientation may change over time, yes. You're right. 

But you don't choose it. Just like you said, " I grew up hating broccoli and now love it." That's not a choice. It just happens over time, but not by choice. You just proved it yourself.

Back yourself up then, where is sexual orientation a choice? 

Answer me this, if that gay man "chooses" that he is straight now, why? Why does he "choose" he is straight? Because his sexual attraction changed, not by choice, but because his body itself changed sexual attraction overtime. He doesn't choose to feel that attraction to females for example, but rather chooses he identifies as straight. See?

That seems to be the most confusing for most people.

Just because I say it's not quite a choice, doesn't mean I decide for him. 

It's his body that practically decides for him.

I don't decide for him, it's his body, his conscious and unconscious sexual arousal and attraction, I just listed possibilites. 

Where did I decide for him? 

A man that was gay, and now straight. Hm... I think there is a sexual attraction for that, but I personally believe the following: 

Yep! My body just completely started feeling a new attraction to females!

I totally don't still feel an attraction to males, in the back, but instead I am forcing myself to feel attraction to females. Though is that really attraction if I don't feel anything? I'm just forcing myself? I guess it doesn't matter, because I can choose!