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zedvictor4,

YOUR REVEALING QUOTE TO MY CHRISTIANITY: "Though religions are basically systems of social control."

Yes, you are correct as shown in the following passage inspired by Jesus as Yahweh God incarnate:

"FulI appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive." (Romans 16:17-18)

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Lot offered his daughters to a crowd of angel rapers and they got drunk and impregnated them, huh? The irony of which Lot was considered a righteous man in 2 Peter 2:8. "Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes." (Genesis 19:8)  

Jesus watched Lot's daughters (Hebrews 4:13) get him drunk and had sexual relations with him: "Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. " (Genesis 19: 32-36)

Jesus, as God, let Abraham to the test to kill his second son for Him. "And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and ... offer him there for a burnt offering.... And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son." (Genesis 22::2, 10) 

Jesus as God commanded Saul to kill every Amalekite man, woman, and child.  "Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass" (1 Samuel 15:2-3). 

The Bible says that parents should happy to smash their young children against stones. "Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones" (Psalm 137:9)

Always remember, Jesus commands us to hate our fathers, mothers, wives, children, sisters, and brothers, along with ourselves before we can become a follower of Jesus.  "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14:26)

Public-Choice,

Addressing your ever so Bible stupid post #84,

YOUR PERCEIVED SATANIC NOTION QUOTE OF NOT HAVING TO FOLLOW THE SABBATH ON THE SEVENTH DAY!: "One person values one day over another, another values every day the same. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind.”

Your quote above relies upon your subjective “interpretation” for you to be “convinced in your own mind” that you are correct! GET IT BIBLE FOOL?  You do not have the authority to subjectively say you will worship the Sabbath on any day you want, because Jesus as God with specificity states that you are to follow the Sabbath protocols on the seventh day, as Exodus 35:2 so states, period!  Get it Bible fool?


YOUR GRASPING FOR STRAWS QUOTE IN YOU TO NOT FOLLOW JESUS’ TRUE WORDS REGARDING THE SABBATH DAY:  ”Therefore, no one is to act as your judge in regard to food and drink, or in respect to a festival or a new moon, or a Sabbath day …… taking his stand on visions he has seen.”  (Colossians 2:16-17)

You don’t have the intellect to realize that you are removing one foot to insert the other AGAIN! If you use this passage statement to not keep the Sabbath Day holy on the specific seventh day, then you are using a claim that in order to be in full relationship with Jesus as God, you need to have “eerie mystical visions” and ecstatic experiences! THINK, the author of Colossians 2:16-19 is opposing those who see themselves as being on a higher spiritual plane, or are more fully with God because of their “visionary experiences” that are subjective to ONLY THEM! GET IT BIBLE FOOL?



YOUR MISCONCEIVED QUOTE OF USING MARK 2:28 THINKING AGAIN THAT YOU DON’T HAVE TO HAVE THE SABBATH ON THE SEVENTH DAY:  ”Jesus said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord, even of the Sabbath.” (Mark 2:28)

THINK, Bible fool! The above quote you used states with specificity that Jesus is Lord, even on the Sabbath which is the seventh day, HELLO, anybody home, obviously NOT!  LOL!



YOUR QUOTE OF MAKING YOURSELF THE CONTINUED BIBLE FOOL: “None of this says "do not take a sabbath day." But what it does say is that the sabbath day can be on any day a person wants and that it is also made for man to relax.”

WRONG AGAIN!  The aforementioned passages, two of which DO NOT even mention a Sabbath Day, because once again at your embarrassing expense, it is written by Jesus as God, that the Sabbath is on the seventh day, and you are to recognize this biblical axiom FOREVER as Exodus 31:12-17 tells the Bible inept pseudo-christian like you, understood?

As Athias said, you have a reading comprehension problem that neither he nor I can help you with. Because of this problem of yours, you continue to make yourself the Bible fool within this esteemed forum that you have no business in being here in the first place!

 

Now, I am going to let you hang yourself again if you try and refute what I have said in this post, whereas the outcome is not going to be very pleasing to you in front of the membership, and all because of your blatant “Bible duncery,” understood?  

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“If any man takes a wife, and goes in to her, and detests her, and charges her with shameful conduct, and brings a bad name on her, and says, ‘I took this woman, and when I came to her I found she was not a virgin,’ then the father and mother of the young woman shall take and bring out the evidence of the young woman’s virginity to the elders of the city at the gate.  And the young woman’s father shall say to the elders, ‘I gave my daughter to this man as wife, and he detests her. Now he has charged her with shameful conduct, saying, “I found your daughter was not a virgin,” and yet these are the evidences of my daughter’s virginity.’ And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. Then the elders of that city shall take that man and punish him; and they shall fine him one hundred shekels of silver and give them to the father of the young woman, because he has brought a bad name on a virgin of Israel. And she shall be his wife; he cannot divorce her all his days.

“But if the thing is true, and evidences of virginity are not found for the young woman, then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has done a disgraceful thing in Israel, to play the harlot in her father’s house. So you shall put away the evil from among you.” (Deuteronomy 22:13-21)

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Public-Choice, who is equal to Miss Tradesecret's Bible stupidity,

YOUR OUTRIGHT UNGODLY QUOTE IS SLAPPING JESUS IN THE FACE AS GOD!!!: "One person who sets aside one day instead of another is free to do so as long as a day is set aside. That is what the Bible says, so that is what I believe."

WRONG, YOU BIBLE DOOFUS!  What part of my post #62 didn't you understand as shown in this link?!  https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8185/post-links/357014

Once again, the correct day to set aside, is the SABBATH day which is the last day of the week being Saturday, do you understand this time?!  Huh? Maybe?  

Case in point Bible fool: “And the Lord (Jesus as God) said to Moses, “You are to speak to the people of Israel and say, ‘Above all you shall keep my Sabbaths, for this is a sign between me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I, the Lord, sanctify you. You shall keep the Sabbath, because it is holy for you. Everyone who profanes it shall be put to death. Whoever does any work on it, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day shall be put to death. Therefore the people of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, observing the Sabbath throughout their generations, as a covenant forever.” (Exodus 31:12-17)

You DO NOT have a choice in what day to set aside to keep holy for Jesus as God, GET IT?  Furthermore, you are to keep the Sabbath on the seventh day forever as the passage above so states, understood Bible inept fool?!  

Furthermore, the above content of the Exodus 31:12-17 is to remain forever because Jesus as God does not change His mind:  “God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?” (Numbers 23:19)

Public-Choice, Jesus H. Christ, you are making Miss Tradesecret nervous in the fact that the only thing that she is known for within this Religion Forum, is her being the #1 Bible ignorant and stupid fool, bar none!  Now, it looks like you want to take over her ungodly position with showing us your Bible stupidity and ignorance on a continued basis, BLASPHEME!

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Public-Choice,  who is equal to Miss Tradesecret's Bible stupidity,

In continuance in addressing your ever so embarrassing post #66.

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For the sake of your further embarrassment, I will not address your child-like foray, irrelative in context, to thinking that breathing is work, along with drinking water, eating and going to the bathroom. You're funny, but at your expense! LOL!  

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Stephen,

YOUR REVEALING QUOTE IN POST #76 TO A NEW COVENANT: "but there was a new covenant through our Lord Jesus". Which can be debunked with just a few questions and relative ease, Brother D."

YES, that is why I stated at the end of my godly post #67, "Lets see if any pseudo-christian within this thread has the audacity to state otherwise to said passage in question, HANG ON IF THEY DO!"

Poor "Public-Choice" seemingly is new at being a pseudo-christian because of stepping in poo all the time at his embarrassing expense. That is why you, me, and others are here to easily "school him" in understanding the true Jesus the Christ, praise!

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Stephen,

Relating to your post #63 again, and to the passage herewith: “While the people of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron and to all the congregation. They put him in custody, because it had not been made clear what should be done to him. And the Lord (Jesus as God) said to Moses, “The man shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” And all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him to death with stones, as the Lord commanded Moses.” (Numbers15:32_36)

We can only assume that the passage above should be followed today, just like the 10 Commandments are,  as per the following passages from the inspired words of Jesus as God:

"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation, for the prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit." (2 Peter 1:20-21)

“EVERY word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.“ (Proverbs 30:5). 

“And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.” (Luke 4:4) 

“Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.” (James 1:22)

With you, I know that I am preaching to the choir, therefore, as Jesus' words above so state, EVERY WORD of His is to be followed in the Bible which includes Numbers 15:32-36 on any pseudo-christian working on the Sabbath Day Saturday!  Lets see if any pseudo-christian within this thread has the audacity to state otherwise to said passage in question, HANG ON IF THEY DO!

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Stephen,

In response to your revealing post #63, and as I have shown in the links below, do you think that Public-Choice is vying to take over Miss Tradesecret's position upon this forum as the #1 Bible ignorant and stupid fool?

Don't think that Jesus isn't watching this Bible dolt monikered as "Public-Choice" (Hebrews 4:13) in making an outright Bible fool of Himself as he outright LIES about Jesus' inspired words within the scriptures, where he will be judged harshly upon Jesus' Judgment Day, praise Jesus' revenge!!!  

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Non-believers do not have our Jesus if they don't believe in Him!
"Whosoever ... abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God." (2 John 9)   

"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? ... Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord." (2 Corinthians  6:14-17) 

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Jesus as God states, be fruitful and multiply and have as many children as you can, even if your wife tells you her life ambition is to be able to sit up!

Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it. 
(Genesis 1:28)

“Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.” Genesis 9:1) 

“Be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.” (Genesis 9:7) 


Remember, EVERY sperm is sacred and don't waste any of it, otherwise, Jesus as God will KILL YOU!

“And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.” (Genesis 38:9-10) 

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Your Bible stupidity and ignorance is showing once again in your own thread, how embarrassing!

YOUR DUMBFOUNDED QUOTE GOING DIRECTLY AGAINST JESUS' INSPIRED WORDS IN THE BIBLE: " I am not saying people shouldn't be free to try to make their own interpretation."  https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8185/post-links/355886

Here, let me remind you once again, like the last time you made yourself a blatant Bible fool where I had to "school you," remember?  Therefore, on the proposition of interpretation of the Bible, you do not have that authority, understood Bible inept fool?!

The responsibility of each Christian regarding the "alleged interpretation" of the Word of Jesus as God within the Bible is given herewith:  "Study to show yourself approved to God a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." (2 Timothy 2:15)

THINK, only one interpretation of the Word of Jesus is correct, where what Jesus said once, He did not mean for pseudo-christians like you to take in many different and contradicting ways, get it Bible dunce?!  Therefore, the following passages comes into effect:

Therefore, according to the above passage, NOTHING in the Bible, as written, is of any private interpretation, period!  Now, since private interpretation is ruled out, the only alternative is that the Bible interprets itself i.e. it is self-interpreted. This means that we are not permitted to go to the Bible and give our own interpretations to it like the equally Bible fool Miss Tradesecret, the MIA Shila, and YOU, therefore what it literally and directly says, is Jesus' true words that we are to accept and follow!

Your bible stupidity again is excused for now.

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THE CASE OF THE HISTORICAL JESUS FORCING CANNIBALISM UPON HIS CREATION AND ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE

As the TRUE Christian should be aware of, sometimes our Jesus, as God in the Old and New Testaments, forces people to eat other people, often their own children or other family members, ewwwwwwww!  But, who are the Christians in the 21st Century to say that Jesus was wrong in making others eat their own children and other people? NOT ME!  Another instance showing that Jesus is NOT ever loving and forgiving like so many Bible inept pseudo-christians may think. :(


"I also will do this unto you... You shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it."  (Leviticus 26:16)

"And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat."  Leviticus 26:29)

"And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters." (Deuteronomy 28:53)

"And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them.” (Deuteronomy 28:57)

"Through the wrath of the LORD of hosts is the land darkened, and the people shall be as the fuel of the fire: no man shall spare his brother. And he shall snatch on the right hand, and be hungry; and he shall eat on the left hand, and they shall not be satisfied: they shall eat every man the flesh of his own arm.” (Isaiah 9:19-20)

"And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine." (Isaiah 49:26)

"And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend.” (Jeremiah 19:9)

"Therefore the fathers shall eat the sons in the midst of thee, and the sons shall eat their fathers.” (Ezekiel 5:10)

"I will not feed you: that that dieth, let it die; and that that is to be cut off, let it be cut off; and let the rest eat every one the flesh of another."  (Zechariah 11:9)


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MISS TRADESECRET, whose gender went from a “MAN TO A WOMAN,” and then to “OTHER,” then went to her being 53 years old, then 12 years old, then changed to being 14 years old, Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO,  Bible denier of Jesus being God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity she follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding the Noah's Ark narrative, SHE SAYS THAT OFFSPRING THAT CURSE THEIR PARENTS SHOULD BE KILLED, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19, 2 Timothy 4:3, and 1 Timothy 2:12. She obviously had ungodly Gender Reassignment Surgery, Satanic Bible Rewriter, she goes against Jesus in not helping the poor, teaches Christianity at Universities in a “blind leading the blind” scenario, and is a False Prophet, says that Jesus is rational when He commits abortions and makes His creation eat their children, and that Jesus is rational when He allows innocent babies to be smashed upon the rocks, will not debate me on the Trinity Doctrine or the Virgin Birth, has a myriad of EXCUSES not to answer your questions, says the Bible contradicts itself, and says that the Bible contradicts itself, and she is "AN ADMITTED SEXUAL DEVIANT!”

Miss Tradesecret, like I have shown in my post #544, you have come up with more EXCUSES not to address biblical posts  to you by the membership, that we wonder why you are in this forum in the first place.  Your Biblical stupidity is without equal, barn none, and we can see that you have to come up with excuses to run away from said questions to you when this is brought out by the membership.

Don't think that Jesus and I don't see you sheepishly running away from my TRUE posts about our serial killer Jesus that I have posted entitled "The case for the historical Jesus" where you are too SCARED to even try to address them, as usual.   Do you want to add to your embarrassing list of Runaway Excuses to posts directed to you in this thread?  Place them here:_________________________________________________________________________________________

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MISS TRADESECRET, whose gender went from a “MAN TO A WOMAN,” and then to “OTHER,” then went to her being 53 years old, then 12 years old, then changed to being 14 years old, Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO,  Bible denier of Jesus being God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity she follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding the Noah's Ark narrative, SHE SAYS THAT OFFSPRING THAT CURSE THEIR PARENTS SHOULD BE KILLED, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19, 2 Timothy 4:3, and 1 Timothy 2:12. She obviously had ungodly Gender Reassignment Surgery, Satanic Bible Rewriter, she goes against Jesus in not helping the poor, teaches Christianity at Universities in a “blind leading the blind” scenario, and is a False Prophet, says that Jesus is rational when He commits abortions and makes His creation eat their children, and that Jesus is rational when He allows innocent babies to be smashed upon the rocks, will not debate me on the Trinity Doctrine or the Virgin Birth, has a myriad of EXCUSES not to answer your questions, says the Bible contradicts itself, and says that the Bible contradicts itself, and she is "AN ADMITTED SEXUAL DEVIANT!”

UPDATE ON MISS TRADESECRET’S EXCUSES TO RUN AWAY FROM LOGICAL BIBLICAL QUESTIONS PRESENTED TO HER BY THE MEMBERSHIP BECAUSE SHE CAN’T ADDRESS THEM AND REMAIN INTELLIGENT LOOKING IN THE AFTERMATH, OTHER THAN TO RUN AWAY FROM THEM! 


When Miss Tradesecret’s Christianity and Bible stupidity is easily owned by a member within this forum, she will go to great lenghts to RUN AND HIDE from said member and their questions to her.  Her EXCUSE #10 is now added to her ever growing list of running from biblical questions to her to save what face she has left within this forum.  :(

MISS TRADESECRET EXCUSE #1:  Her computer tells her that she should not open up webpage links it does not recognize that overall support her Bible ineptness! LOL! https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7634-i-m-back-did-you-miss-me?page=1&post_number=18

MISS TRADESECRET EXCUSE #2:  If you make a derogatory comment to her, is enough for not to address your questions anymore, BUT, she makes these same remarks to other members, can we say HYPOCRITE, sure we can!
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7634-i-m-back-did-you-miss-me?page=3&post_number=54

MISS TRADESECRET EXCUSE #3: She will call your posts to her as LIES, therefore there is no need for her to discuss your posts, yes, this is true!
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7634-i-m-back-did-you-miss-me?page=3&post_number=54

MISS TRADESECRET EXCUSE #4:  She will tell you that your posts are “not worth it” to respond too, in once again showing her outright Bible ignorance to run away from them!
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7634-i-m-back-did-you-miss-me?page=3&post_number=54

MISS TRADESECRET EXCUSE #5:  She will tell you that she doesn’t give a “toss” about your stupid ideas of a post you’ve directed to her, again, therefore she runs away from them!
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7634-i-m-back-did-you-miss-me?page=3&post_number=54

MISS TRADESECRET EXCUSE #6:  When she opens a previous link that was directed to her, and after opening it and it showed her that she was wrong in her perceived knowledge, she will tell you that she DID NOT open said post because she could care less in what you proposed! 
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7634-i-m-back-did-you-miss-me?page=3&post_number=54

MISS TRADESECRET EXCUSE 7:  She will tell you that you don’t have enough “integrity” to take her time in debating you or answer your questions, therefore she can runaway from your post to her.
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7337-how-do-you-know-the-bible-is-true?page=20&post_number=482

MISS TRADESECRET EXCUSE #8: If she knows you will easily “own her Bible stupidity,” and allegedly you are using a fake personna, she will not debate you or answer your questions, other than to run away and HIDE from them! 
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7337-how-do-you-know-the-bible-is-true?page=20&post_number=482

MISS TRADESECRET EXCUSE #9: She will answer questions that she wants to answer, therefore not to questions that makes her the Bible fool! 
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7337-how-do-you-know-the-bible-is-true?page=19&post_number=473

MISS TRADESECRET EXCUSE #10: Now she has taken a pre-school girly excuse position to run away from biblical axioms that she cannot begin to discuss because of her Bible ignorance, by calling you a duck, where you are “quack, quacking!”
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8091-the-case-for-the-historical-jesus?page=14&post_number=338

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MISS "QUACK, QUACK" TRADESECRET, whose gender went from a “MAN TO A WOMAN,” and then to “OTHER,” then went to her being 53 years old, then 12 years old, then changed to being 14 years old, Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO,  Bible denier of Jesus being God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity she follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding the Noah's Ark narrative, SHE SAYS THAT OFFSPRING THAT CURSE THEIR PARENTS SHOULD BE KILLED, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19, 2 Timothy 4:3, and 1 Timothy 2:12. She obviously had ungodly Gender Reassignment Surgery, Satanic Bible Rewriter, she goes against Jesus in not helping the poor, teaches Christianity at Universities in a “blind leading the blind” scenario, and is a False Prophet, says that Jesus is rational when He commits abortions and makes His creation eat their children, and that Jesus is rational when He allows innocent babies to be smashed upon the rocks, will not debate me on the Trinity Doctrine or the Virgin Birth, has a myriad of EXCUSES not to answer your questions, says the Bible contradicts itself, and says that the Bible contradicts itself, and she is "AN ADMITTED SEXUAL DEVIANT!”

How sad, in you running out of EXCUSES to run from my godly posts to you in your post #539!  Whats new? NOTHING as usual! ROFLOL!

Here dear, WHY do you have to RUN AWAY from my following godly posts to you as listed below?  Have you had enough of me easily Bible Slapping you Silly®️ again, and you need time to heal?  Remember before, you didn't need lame girly EXCUSES like you are using now at your embarrassing expense in front of the membership! LOL!

Here dear Miss Tradesecret, try again forthwith:

Miss Tradesecret, you have literally ran away from the following posts, which is nothing new for you, that I have directed towards you and your Bible stupidity. 

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As explicitly shown, Shila is no where to be found, possibly because she understood that I am taking over her "The case for the Historical Jesus" thread, where she had absolutely no business in opening up said thread to begin with as an inferior woman as shown in the following passage: 

Therefore, I will continue to show the REAL Jesus of Christianity, praise!

Can you imagine if Jesus was on earth today, and the stoning to death women that would be done in His behalf if they were not virgins upon marriage, as explicitly shown in this disgusting link: https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEGCAY7 

Yep, the REAL Jesus was a real hard ass when it always came to women. :(

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Stephen,

Seriously, isn't it sad to watch "Miss Tradesecret" metaphorically die on this notable DEBATEART Religion Forum because of her assumed knowledge of the JUDEO-Christian Bible is absolutely NOTHING compared to our superior Bible knowledge in always having to correct her?  At what point does Miss Tradesecret just "throw in the towel" of total DEFEAT to save herself from further embarrassment relative to her not knowing the Bible like we do?  

Like I have said before, Miss Tradesecret not only is an embarrassment to this Religion Forum, but to Christianity as well!  Maybe she will take another "time out" and go into hiding again like she has done before when she is "road killed" by us because of her complete Bible stupidity.

Can you imagine in what Jesus as God thinks of Miss Tradesecret, especially regarding her lying about Jesus' inspired words within the scriptures: "There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers." "Proverbs 6:16-19)

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Stephen,

What did we expect, other than for Miss Tradesecret with her Bible ignorance, to remove one foot to insert the other as an inferior woman? ROFLOL!

Psst, notice that Miss Tradesecret has stayed out of this thread more so than not to save face, except for her child-like pre-school "quack, quack" posts in running away from posts to her. Knowing that if she re-entered, deep down, she knew that she would be easily Bible Slapped Silly®️ again, as you have done to her in the link in question above!  Good call Garth!

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MISS TRADESECRET, whose gender went from a “MAN TO A WOMAN,” and then to “OTHER,” then went to her being 53 years old, then 12 years old, then changed to being 14 years old, Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO,  Bible denier of Jesus being God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity she follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding the Noah's Ark narrative, SHE SAYS THAT OFFSPRING THAT CURSE THEIR PARENTS SHOULD BE KILLED, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19, 2 Timothy 4:3, and 1 Timothy 2:12. She obviously had ungodly Gender Reassignment Surgery, Satanic Bible Rewriter, she goes against Jesus in not helping the poor, teaches Christianity at Universities in a “blind leading the blind” scenario, and is a False Prophet, says that Jesus is rational when He commits abortions and makes His creation eat their children, and that Jesus is rational when He allows innocent babies to be smashed upon the rocks, will not debate me on the Trinity Doctrine or the Virgin Birth, has a myriad of EXCUSES not to answer your questions, says the Bible contradicts itself, and says that the Bible contradicts itself, and she is "AN ADMITTED SEXUAL DEVIANT!”

YOUR QUOTE IN YOUR WEAK AND EVER SO WANTING RUNAWAY POST #523: "We thank and praise God for every child born. In our view every child is perfect even if others think there are issues."

There you are!  Good girl, you finally got the nerve to "try" and re-enter and engage within the former Shila's thread about the Case for the Historical Jesus, good girl!

Guess what you forgot? Come on, guess? LOL!  YES, you forgot to answer in why Jesus allows babies to be born without birth defects, and then allows babies to be born with some of the most horrific birth defects as shown in my links below, in my post #522!   

Furthermore, you said that you thank and praise our serial killer Jesus that every baby born is perfect, even if others think there are issues. Therefore, in your inept bible ignorance and outside of the Bible thinking, are there issues with the babies shown in the links below, and why did Jesus give these babies such disgusting birth defects?

Take your time dear in your answer to the above questions, don't be too quick in making yourself the continued Bible fool of this Religion Forum, okay?  

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Stephen,

 

Like I have told the Bible dumbfounded Shila, I am taking over her ungodly thread about the case for the REAL Historical Jesus, because as I have shown this Bible inept fool, she goes directly against Jesus' words within the scriptures as her being a woman by violating this passage: "Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet." 

In Shila slapping Jesus' face by not following the passage above, this is barring her complete Bible stupidity in "trying" to refute my posts showing the REAL JESUS as I have described Him in my posts in Shila's former thread that Jesus' true words and I  now control, praise!

Shila has to learn her place in Jesus' godly scheme of things, whereas she was only put upon earth to serve man, period! Furthermore, men that want to please Jesus as God, will escape from the woman: “I find more bitter than death the woman who is a snare, whose heart is a trap and whose hands are chains. The man who pleases God will escape her, but the sinner she will ensnare.” (Ecclesiastes 7:26)

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Christians, with the Biblical FACTS shown above showing that Jesus as God created ALL THINGS, ask yourself, why does God/Jesus allow these poor babies shown in the horrific links below to be born with such severe birth defects? WHY???!!!

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Stephen,

YOUR QUOTE IN THE FACT THAT CHRISTIANS ARE TO FOLLOW EVERY WORD THAT JESUS BRINGS FORTH IN THE WAY OF BEATING YOUR CHILDREN WITH A HARD ROD: "Well, it has been said that "the bible should be taken literally", Brother D. And the dilemma must be excruciating."

YES, it was excruciating!  Case in point, when Jesus said that I can beat my children with a "hard rod," leaving black and blue marks upon their skin, I did so because it saved them from Hell like He said in Proverbs 23:13-14.  ALL of my offspring didn't like the beatings in this respect, but afterwords, they toed the mark until they got out of line again for more beatings, praise!

All Christians have to remember this Jesus inspired passage herewith and follow it regarding the beating with a rod of their children that get out of line: “Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.” (James 1:22). Who am I to usurp Jesus' inspired words in this respect, NOT ME!

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Stephen,

Upon your well thought out treatise upon "The Story of the "certain" Witnesses," listen, we are both aware that Miss Tradesecret holds the title of being the most Bible stupid and ignorant pseudo-christian upon this Religion Forum, bar none!  Therefore, you might as well talk to a 5 year old child, or maybe even a baby, that has more Bible sense than Miss Tradesecret!  She knows that I have a file upon her that is a mile long in showing her total and complete Bible ineptness, and that I can bring forth at any given time to prove my point.

In trying to deal logically with Miss Tradesecret and Shila, who may be leaving in the short term because of her outright smutty sexual innuendos, that of a hell bound prostitute, is useless because of our superior knowledge of the JUDEO-Christian Bible over theirs, along with other members as well!

Besides, look at these two ungodly woman Bible fools that blatantly go against Jesus' teachings in the fact that they are NOT following this passage: "Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet." (1 Timothy 2:11-12)

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The examples below are to be followed by the TRUE Christian because they’re in the Bible for parenting instruction, and who is any pseudo-christian to argue with Jesus' direct inspired words below? NO ONE!

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Shila,

YOUR REVEALING QUOTE!: "The pagan cult Mithraism was replaced by Christianity."

Your coming to terms with Mithraism in being pagan, and then admitting that Christianity was pagan as well by replacing Mithraism, is BLASPHEME!

Regardless of your child like apologetic attempt in your vain post #513 in trying not to connect Mithraism with Christianity, the fact unfortunately will remain that Mithraism was FIRST with its propositions of faith,  and Christianity was SECOND with the same propositions as Mithraism, as it outright copied Mithraism, therefore, our Jesus is a COPYCAT GOD OF MITHRA!  2+2=4!

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Mithraism, cloaked in mystery and secrecy, has captivated the imaginations of scholars for generations. Many facts discovered sheds vital light on the cultural dynamics that led to the rise of Christianity. The National Geographic Society’s book “Great Religions of the World,” page 309 writes; “By Jesus’ time, East and West had mingled here for three centuries. Down columns of boulevards walked Roman soldiers loyal to the Persian god Mithras.” Mithras was a Persian deity. He was also the most widely venerated god in the Roman Empire at the time of Jesus. The Catholic Encyclopedia as well as the early Church Fathers found this religion of Mithras very disturbing, as there are so many similarities between the two religions, as follows: 

1) Hundreds of years before Jesus, according to the Mithra religion, three Wise Men of Persia came to visit the baby savior-god Mithra, bring him gifts of gold, myrrh and frankincense.  Hmmmm, this sounds familiar, doesn't it? :(

2) Mithra was born on December 25 as told in the “Great Religions of the World”, page 330; “…it was the winter solstice celebrated by ancients as the birthday of Mithraism’s sun god”.  WTF? Mithra, that was before Jesus, was born on the same day as Jesus?  :(

3) According to Mithraism, before Mithra died on a cross, he celebrated a “Last Supper with his twelve disciples, who represented the twelve signs of the zodiac.  
Alright, this is getting embarrassing in showing that our Christian Jesus is a COPYCAT God of Mithra!

4) After the death of Mithra, his body was laid to rest in a rock tomb.  Alright, this is to close to our Jesus' modus operandi! 

5) Mithra had a celibate priesthood. Yep, Just like Jesus "hanging around" his 12 disciple MEN. :(

6) Mithra ascended into heaven during the spring (Passover) equinox (the time when the sun crosses the equator making night and day of equal length).  Wait a damn minute, Jesus ascended into heaven as well! Shyte!

Damn it, as we can see, Christianity derived many of its essential elements from the ancient pagan religion of Mithraism after the FACT of Mithraism existing before Jesus!  Mithraism became intertwined with the cult of Jesus to form what is known today as “Christianity.” Although literary sources on this religion are sparse, an abundance of material evidence exists in the many Mithraic temples and artifacts that archaeologists have found scattered throughout the Roman Empire, from England in the north and west to Palestine in the south and east. The temples were usually built underground in caves, which are filled with an extremely elaborate iconography (illustrating by pictures, figures and images). There were many hundreds of Mithraic temples in the Roman Empire, the greatest concentrations have been found in the city of Rome itself! 

Oh well, I still love my "Copycat Jesus to Mithra" because like I have said many times, Jesus' word within the scriptures foretells of NO WOMAN in Heaven, where the man had to put up with woman on earth, whereas their Sister Eve was the cause of the Original Sin and men have been paying for it ever since!

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If whiteflame follows through, like he said he would in his post #419, then you are gone from this Religion Forum where you didn't belong in the first place by clogging up the Religion Forum Topic Page by bringing forth threads months and years ago, and this is barring your SMUTTY Satanic talk and your outright Bible stupidity, therefore praise Jesus’ revenge upon you because you embarrassed Him over your unchristian like actions upon this forum!

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Stephen,

YOUR REVEALING QUOTE: " Conceived out of wedlock, should say it all."

Good call!  I forgot this fact that Mary was NOT married to Joseph at the time of Jesus' birth, of which makes the situation even a greater loss in the respect since Joseph was not involved in Jesus' birth, then Jesus was not born through the “fruit of the loins” from the House of David as a requirement for Jesus to be the Messiah because Mary was blood of the Levite family, whoops!  Therefore, the messianic prophecies in the gospels are NOT fulfilled by Jesus, and therefore fall flat upon their face!  

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Shila, the upmost Bible fool this forum has ever seen,

Sorry dear, but you don't have the mental capacity to realize that in you "trying" to address my posts relative to the TRUE Jesus, you runaway from biblical axioms with some of the most weakest and unbiblical refutations that are laughable on their face! LOL!!!.

Run along dear, you are no longer needed in this thread. Bye, bye .............

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resends,

YOUR REVEALING QUOTE THAT PROVES MY POINT: "According to Jewish law, Jesus would not be a mamzer unless it could be proven that his father was another Jewish man."

The father in this case, was Jesus being a Jew impregnating His own mother Mary through "spiritual celestial impregnation incest." as being His own Father as I have shown in my post #489.

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All I can say is thank Jesus, as God, in that we didn't live in the days of His lifetime, whew!  This is because Jesus would have BEATEN US if we broke His statutes and His commandments, which shows once again that Jesus was not all forgiving. :(

If we were beaten by Jesus back in His time period, I am sure He would follow this inspired passage of His shown below:

With this passage alone shown below, if Shila and Miss Tradesecret had lived in Jesus' time period, they would be beaten by Jesus  because of their outright Bible stupidity, praise Jesus' revenge! 

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Shila, who tries in vain to rewrite the Bible to the way she wants it to be,

1. YOUR BIBLE IGNORANT QUOTE #1: “Jesus is called a mediator not God in (1 Timothy 2:5) 

In your grasping for straws quote above to try and save face because of your complete Bible stupidity, the entire passages reads: “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.” (1 Timothy 2:5) “

Timothy states with specificity that there is ONE GOD, the man Christ Jesus, get it Bible fool?  YOU FAIL AGAIN! 

2. YOUR BIBLE IGNORANT QUOTE #2:  “No mention of Jesus. Elijah was praying to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel.”

HELLO? Who is the God of Abraham, JESUS you dumb ass Bible fool! 

Jesus refers to Himself before the Jews using the same name that He gave Moses at the burning bush.  "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I AM!” (John 8:58 )  GET IT? Jesus was the God of the Old Testament, HELLO?!

3. YOUR BIBLE IGNORANT QUOTE #3: “Peter also lied about Jesus 3 times.”

Where you get the authority to say that the following passage by Peter pertaining to Jesus as God is a lie!

“Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours.”

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Shila, the over the edge Bible fool,

YOUR QUOTE FROM YOUR "TRYING SO HARD" TO PROVE THE MUSLIMS REVERE JESUS IN POST #467!!!:  "Now try to justify your blasphemous claims against Jesus."

Your feeble mind does not allow you to comprehend that what you posted about the Muslims relative to Jesus in your feeble post #467, DOES NOT remove the facts, as shown once again below for your convenience, in what the Muslims think about Christianity, that cancels out your misconceived notion that they revere Jesus, NOT!!!

1. ”O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.” (Qur’an 5:51)  

2. "Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (Qur’an 9:29) 

3.  The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (Qur’an 9:30) 

4.  "Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an." (Qur’an 8:12)  This passage relates to Jews and Christians, GET IT?

5.  “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.” (Qur’an 2:65-66)

6.  "Muslims must not take the infidels as friends." (Qur’an 3:28)   Who are the infidels Shila, YES, Christians and Jews, GET IT?

7.  "Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them." (Qur’an 47:4) Christians are the infidels!

8.  "Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies".  (Qur’an 22:19)  Who are the unbelievers of Islam, CHRISTIANS!

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THE BIBLE STATES THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD IN JESUS:  “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.” (1 Timothy 2:5) 

JESUS IS GOD OF THE CHRISTIANS: “And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces and said, “The Lord, he is God; the Lord, he is God.” (1 Kings 18:39)

SIMON PETER SAYS JESUS IS THE GOD OF THE CHRISTIANS: “Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours."

1. In the book of Hosea, Jesus as God, gave Ephraim women miscarrying wombs and caused abortions, and if said children survived, Jesus would take them from their parents, and "if" they gave birth, Jesus would SLAY their beloved children!

2. JESUS, as Yahweh God incarnate, became an abortionist when He murdered INNOCENT zygotes and fetus’ in the wombs of pregnant women as they drowned in His Great Flood. Furthermore, He murdered babies and children that treaded water before they drowned in HIs Great Flood. It is factual to say that Jesus was NOT PRO-LIFE!  :(

"The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time.  The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.”  I am going to bring floodwaters on the earth to destroy all life under the heavens, every creature that has the breath of life in it. Everything on earth will perish.(Genesis 6:5-7, 17)

Yes, to be a TRUE Christian like myself, I have had to learn that I have to accept Jesus in the manner shown above, and where Jesus truly is NOT all loving and forgiving like so many pseudo-christians erroneously state. Basically, we worship a serial killer as shown above, but personally, the only reason that I continue to do so, is the Bible fact that there will be NO WOMEN in heaven, where we superior men had to put up with them while upon earth, praise Jesus!

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Shila, the continued Bible fool as shown ad infinitum,

YOUR MISGUIDED QUOTE IN YOUR POST #427:  "How does the Islamic view of Jesus compare with your blasphemous claims against Jesus?"

Heads up pseudo-christian, I am NOT blasphemous against Jesus because I am telling the TRUTH about Him, understood? Therefore, my post shown in the link below about how Muslims think of Christianity STANDS!  Therefore, they DO NOT revere Jesus like you so erroneously said as being wrong once again in your posts, understood? Maybe? Huh?

THE ISLAMIC FAITH DOES NOT LIKE CHRISTIANS WHATSOEVER:

Listen, you've embarrassed yourself enough in your own laughable thread, especially being SMUTTY towards me, where you got slapped by our esteemed moderator! Furthermore, you have yet to address my post #401 to you where what you thought you knew about Jesus relating to the Old Testament, YOU EMBARRASSINGLY DIDN'T WHERE I HAD TO SCHOOL YOU ONCE AGAIN!  LOL!  Therefore, to save you even further embarrassment within your ungodly thread, why not just close this thread down and go and hide in another Religion Forum?

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Shila, the continued "remove one foot to insert the other" pseudo-christian,

YOUR REVEALING QUOTE THAT REMINDED ME OF JESUS, THANK YOU:  "I was just defending against BrotherD. a blasphemous misogynist in a way that others would take notice. Notice only the males have responded."

As it was shown by me earlier, the inspired words of Jesus (1 Thessalonians 2:13)  within the scriptures shows that He believed in being a MISOGYNIST as the passages below so state, and since I have to follow Jesus' words below because they set an example for me, then I have to be a misogynist as well, GET IT?