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Stephen,

YOUR TRUTHFUL QUOTE AT THE EXPENSE OF TRADESECRET:  " I also notice that the apologist  here have given the OP a very wide birth."

As I have shown in my initial post, I knew the Bible ignorant Tradesecret could never address the outright outcome of 1 Timothy 4:10, therefore I gave him an excuse to RUN AWAY from it without having to give his normal ungodly and comedic Satanic apologetic spin to this selected passage.  I felt truly feel sorry for ol' Tradesecret, therefore not only did he not need to give another excuse to RUN AWAY from said passage, but, if he did engage with the Brother D, and subsequently, it would have added so much egg upon his face when I easily refuted him, that he probably couldn't see his computer screen for days. Therefore, he owes me! LOL. 

I still say that Tradesecret is an outright POE/Parody of a pseudo-christian, because who other than a POE would make such fun of the Christian faith like he has explicitly done in his comical Noahan Flood posts?

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TRADESECRET, The Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO,  Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, and now the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark,

Barring Tradesecrets biblical ignorance in the numbers game relative to Genesis 7:2, therefore, we will use his exact numbers relative to his comical Bible rewrite of the amount of infant animals upon the ark. QUIT LAUGHING!

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Intelligence_06,

YOUR WELL FOUNDED QUOTE: "Non-theists: God is Evil - Other Christians: No God is not evil - BrotherDThomas: God is Evil and I am ok with that.

So, you were talking to me!  

I agree with everything that you said, praise!

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Intelligence_06,

YOUR QUOTE: "Oh wow you didn't even respond to my post TwT"

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Stephen,

YOUR REVEALING AND CORRECTLY ANSWERED QUOTE: "Brother, it appears that  once again you (and Timothy) have,  with  one single verse, blown the idea that none believers won't be going to heaven , clean out the water."

Yes, with the correct syntactical reading of 1 Timothy 4:10, EVERYONE is truly saved whether they believe in the serial killer Jesus or not.  Look at the good side of this biblical axiom, you and I will meet again in the Christian 1400 square mile Heaven with it's 60 high walls, that should keep out the Mormons and JWs!  Just think of getting together again, where in Heaven there will be NO WOMEN, where this alone is worth the free ride to the Pearly Gates!

Yes, it will be a glorious day when we are there, but the only aspect that I regret in the future of Heaven, is there will be so sex since there will be no women. Whereas, I followed Jesus' words while upon earth in being fruitful and multiplying (Genesis 1;28), and in doing so, I went through many wives because their life ambition was to be able to sit up. :(.  

In any event, praise Jesus' TRUE words!

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Doc,

YOUR QUOTE, POST #118: "but according to logic, he has to be good"

No, according to "Tradition" Jesus is good.  When actually reading the Bible instead of having it spoon-fed to pseudo-christians on Sunday mornings, does the TRUE MO of Jesus as Yahweh God incarnate make itself known as Him being greedy, a serial killer, jealous, selfish, self-centered, petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capricious, and malevolent.

As a TRUE Christian, I have had to accept Jesus' TRUE MO shown above and that is vouchsafed within the scriptures. :(

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SirAnonymous and Doc,

The circled R is a "Registered Symbol" and not a copyright symbol. There is a difference.

Barring your misconception, what about the main topic?

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YOUR QUOTE WHERE I SAVED YOUR SORRY BIBLICAL ASS: "Don't stress BDT - I can't be bothered.  You have not nothing to refute anyway. "

I am just saving your pathetic  biblical ass by not wanting you to parade around in this thread making another biblical fool of yourself in "trying in vain" to discuss the main topic! LOL.  Subsequent to your ever so laughable posts of yours in other threads that I responded to in making you the continued Bible fool in this forum, I can't see you topping them in laughter, therefore quit while you are ahead in your Saturday Night Live comical skits. Therefore, you own me in saving you even more embarrassment in front of the membership!  

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Without a doubt, my favorite of your Christian Comedy Skits thus far is the one where you actually had the audacity to say that "infant animals" could have been put upon the Ark instead of Adult Animals so they could fit better, whereas equaling 7000 "kinds, as you stated, X 8 pairs as per Genesis 7:2.  Unfortunately for you,  I easily shut down this laughable post of yours for the obvious reasons that I stated in said post!!!!  It is no wonder why you haven't addressed this said post shown below, and that is, it is better for YOU to just RUN AWAY from it instead and accept your embarrassment once again! LOL

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PGA2.0,

Within your "War and Peace" dissertation post #110 above, the bottom line that I have to accept as the only TRUE CHRISTIAN on this forum, is the FACT that our belief in our serial killing Jesus  and His doctrines of Christianity can ONLY be based on spiritual apprehension, rather than empirical proof!  This is because our JUDEO-Christian Bible is no more valid than the Hebrew Torah, or the Muslim Qu'ran, or the direct writings of the Greek God ZEUS, understood? Yes? Maybe?  

It is also discouraging to me that outside of our JUDEO-Christian Bible, there is not a mention of our brutal serial killer God/Jesus until 70 YEARS SUBSEQUENT TO HIM DYING UPON THE CROSS by proven interpolations within Josephus' writings!  Subsequently, the mentioning of a "Jesus character," NEVER mentioning this Jesus person as Yahweh God incarnate, is littered throughout history by hearsay only without any more proof than proving ZEUS' presence upon the earth!  GET IT?

Therefore, a TRUE Christian needs more than faith to follow the Christian belief!  Understood?

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Pseudo-christians, as I always do at night before going to bed, I pray to Jesus about the things that He has done throughout the world, especially in giving His Jewish only followers COVID-19 and the ramifications thereof.  Jesus answered by saying it was better for Him to kill in a slight way with the virus instead of initiating another Great Flood to start over once again because He was still upset with creation in sinning.  Then Jesus told me that I should't worry about it because EVERYONE is saved even if they don't believe in Him, and then told me to read 1Timothty 4:10 to vouchsafe this position.    This passage tells us that the Christian 1400 square mile heaven with its 60 foot walls will have Atheists amongst true believers, along with Muslims, JW's, Mormons and other unbelievers? Huh? WTF!!!

The passage in question: “For it is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers.” (1 Timothy 4:10)  KEY WORDS AND THE CORRECT SYNTACTICAL SENTENCE STRUCTURING STATES: “All men,” especially of believers, as in addition to, all men that are NOT believers, as in Atheists and other faiths that contradict the Christian one will be saved regardless of whether anyone believes or not in our serial killer Jesus!  WTF!!!

Therefore, it's sad that we Christians are going through are now needless pagan rituals, guilt complexes, alleged sin, family dissension between faiths, tithing, shunning, disfellowshipping, being hypocritical to the bible, etc., all for naught!  Therefore Jesus' TRUE words in 1 Timothy says everyone, whether they believe or not in Jesus,  gets a free ride to heaven!  WTF!!!

Now, in Jesus' name, hopefully we won't see pseudo-christians bringing forth their Satanic hermeneutics,  contradicting biblical passages to this topic that therefore show falsehoods, and pseudo-christian apologetics 101 hampering this outright biblical axiom. 

TRADESECRET, YOU HAVE HAD ENOUGH EMBARRASSMENT AS THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THIS FORUM WITH MY RECENT BIBLE SLAPPING YOU SILLY®️, AND BECAUSE OF THIS FACT, 4 OF MY POSTS TO YOU REMAIN SILENT FROM YOU FOR OBVIOUS REASONS. THEREFORE DO NOT EVEN TRY TO ENGAGE THIS TOPIC, UNDERSTOOD?

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Doc,

YOUR MISTAKEN QUOTE: "but according to logic, he has to be good"

Unfortunately our Jesus, as a part of the TRIUNE DOCTRINE, was a brutal serial killer in the Old Testament. Additionally, even in the New Testament He stated that certain human entities should be murdered, which is hardly an acceptable "good" attribute, wouldn't you say?  

Now, you tell me if Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate of the Triune is allegedly "good" in my post #117 above within this thread, okay?  Get back to me when you have time to read said post, and to make a LOGICAL determination of whether Jesus is really "good" as you think at this time. Thanks.

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YOUR BIBLE IGNORANT QUOTE # 493932949858483923-6 IN YOUR LAUGHABLE POST #110:  "God does not make it a habit of interfering in the ordinary things of life in relation to suffering. He does and has sometimes. But he is not obligated to do so.  He is under no jurisdiction to do so."  

Barring your insipid quote above, where you DO NOT give us any biblical vouchsafing to make a statement like that in the first place, therefore, as usual, your blatant Bible ignorance pervades other threads as well as your ignorance in the Noah Ark Thread!  First off, you erroneously state that our serial killer Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, "does not interfere in ordinary things of life in relation to suffering," THEN YOU CONTRADICT THIS STATEMENT BY STATING; "He does and has sometimes!" LOL!  Therefore, where do you actually stand upon this topic?!  As expected, the pseudo-christian like you wants it both ways to try and save your further embarrassment to biblical axioms! Priceless.

1.  Jesus commanded that babies would be smashed to pieces, and their women ripped open (Hosea 13:16).

2. Jesus horrifically drowned his entire JEWISH Creation, including innocent zygotes, fetus' and babies in His Great Flood scenario. (Genesis 7)

3. Jesus brutally slays the fruit of the womb of the women in Ephraim. (Hosea 9:11-16)

4. Jesus commands the death to helpless “suckling” infants (1 Samuel 15:3).

5. Jesus is praised for slaughtering the innocent first born.  (Psalms 135:8 & 136:10)

6. Jesus commands that infants should be “dashed upon the rocks.” (Psalms 137:9) Ever wonder in what that would sound like? Maybe a watermelon being dropped on a huge rock? What do you think? Huh?

7. Jesus commanded that children shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.” (Isaiah 13:15-16)

The TRUE MO of our alleged ever loving and forgiving serial killing Jesus is to sickening to continue, of which, you have yet to find your BIB BOY pants in debating me upon this subject, but to only RUN AWAY from it as continually shown. LOL!  Therefore, I only listed a few examples above, of which there are MANY MORE, where Jesus in fact did interfere with His Jewish creation relative to their outright and brutal suffering!

Tradesecret, to prevent you from being the total Bible fool all the time, isn't it about time you take a break from your adamant biblical ignorance on this forum?  Either that, or maybe it's time to change the name of your moniker to save further embarrassment?  OR, for you to be more comfortable with your complete unadulterated biblical ignorance, maybe its time for you to join a Christian's Children Forum! To save you time, here is a kids bible forum where you will be more at home with your Bible stupidity equal to theirs!

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secularmerlin,

YOUR QUOTE OF MISCONCEPTION: "Well good luck with your zealotry then. Feel free not to respond to my posts in the future."

I have no option other than to be a zealot regarding the Christian faith so saith Jesus the Christ , and I don't need any luck whatsoever because I actually read the Bible and the outcome that it provides.  If I respond to your posts in the future that are worthy in the name of Jesus, then you have the option not to respond to them.

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secularmerlin, Discipulus_Didicit, 

Where in the hell have you two been?  With biblical truth, I have to promote that our Yahweh/Jesus/Spirit is one of the most EVIL gods of all times, where I have just learned to accept this biblical axiom as a TRUE Christian and just move on the best way that I can.  Besides, Yahweh/Jesus/Spirit CREATES EVIL in the first place, and of which we have seen throughout the scriptures where He has performed some of the mosts disgusting and horrific evil acts ever on record!

JESUS' INSPIRED WORDS SAID:  "For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him." (Colossians 1:16). All things include Jesus creating evil as explicitly shown throughout the scriptures. 

Don't let the runaway from debate and Bible ignorant Tradescret pull the wool over your eyes and say anything different upon what Jesus' true MO is all about, of which in part, is an EVIL murderer of the innocents, especially of children!  

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Stephen,

Let's be truthful about Tradesecret, where he is blatantly a POE!  Therefore, as seen throughout his posts regarding Noah's ark, he is making fun of Christianity and therefore Jesus' inspired words, whereas just look at his responses to me in his Satanic post #95 alone.  Don't you love the comedy skit of where he states: “The polar bear would have just walked onto the boat! " OMG, Tradesecret is truly missing his calling of being a Stand-Up Comedian!  

Ol' Tradesecret forgets that when making obnoxious claims relative to "time periods," he only has 6000 years from the origin of man to today's date in the year of 2020 to work with. This biblical axiom alone shows how biblically ignorant he truly is in the eyes of not only the membership, but in the eyes of Jesus as well! (Hebrews 4:13) When the Bible precludes that all living things existed within the last 6000 years, then that includes ALL DINOSAURS!   Whoops!

Stephen, would you hire an attorney that explicitly stated that ALL dinosaurs were the size of chickens? Tradesecret quote: "Yeah I was wrong about the dinosaur being on average the size of a chicken. It was probably the size of a bison.  My mistake for not checking.”
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/1097-why-should-we-take-the-story-of-noah-as-literal?page=4&post_number=95

Poor old Tradesecret digs his hole deeper with a backhoe because most dinosaurs are not even the size of a bison, as T-Rexs are 20 feet in height, and Argentinosaurus dinosaurs were 100 feet in lenght and weighing 220,000 pounds!  Oh my. :(

The earthly and biblical ignorance of our minion of Satan Tradesecret is without bounds at his expense and the memberships entertainment. 

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Stephen,

Seriously, with only viewing Tradesecrets comical postings within this thread, and therefore barring his other laughable postings in other threads, do you think that he is really a parody, or a POE against Christianity?  The truly disconcerting fact is that Tradesecret is an alleged attorney!!!  Can you see him in a trial setting in using the same comical skewed logic that he uses for Christianity to supposedly support why he is at trial in the first place!  NOT! I can hear the presiding judge shouting; "OUT OF ORDER TRADESECRET!"  LOL

If Tradesecret is truly a pseudo-christian, then my associates in some very notable worldwide Christian forums are laughing their asses off at his posts, and using some of his Satanic rhetoric to show how the Christian faith is unacceptable in the 21st century. As if the equally Bible ignorant ethang5 wasn't enough, now we have Tradesecret vying to be the number 1 Bible ignorant fool at DEBATEART. This in turn would make ethang5 sorrowful, because ethang5 at this time is the number 1 Bible fool on this forum, and this is all he has left  to hang his hat upon! LOL

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YOUR COMPLETE BIBLE IGNORANCE FAR SURPASSES ETHANG5’S: “And I have never said God created sin. Sin is what humans do.”

There are times when I look upon the Bible ignorant like you and say; WTF!  We understand that you are vying to be the number 1 Bible ignorant fool on this forum, but at times, you really show this Satanic act of yours!

Listen up, you have to say that Jesus, as the brutal serial murderer HEBREW God Yahweh, created sin in the Garden of Eden, HELLO? Now, read what I am about to say real slow, okay? Ready? Jesus is omniscient (1 John 3:20 - John 6:6 - Matthew 10:30) to be anything less is not a true God. Therefore, when Jesus told Adam and Eve NOT to eat from the Tree of knowledge, He knew beforehand that they would perform this act in being omniscient, get it?  Therefore it was a “set-up” for Eve first, and then Adam, to eat the forbidden fruit that Jesus knew they were going to do at the onset! Therefore, Jesus was part and parcel in creating the first sin and the subsequent history thereof!!! 2+2=4!

Besides, do you want to call Jesus a LIAR again when His inspired words state that EVERYTHING was created by Jesus, and that includes SIN?  You only need to be guilty of performing the Unpardonable Sin once like you did in another memorable thread to be headed for the depths of Hell upon your demise, understood Bible fool?

“For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.” (Colossians 1:16)

TRADESECRET’S QUOTE WHERE HE SLIPS ON HIS FREUDIAN AGAIN! LOL: “Please go and find these questions. I am obviously too dumb to find them.”

Just another truthful post by Tradesecret, in actually showing that he agrees that he is dumber than ethang5!  You goad the biblically ignorant like Tradesecret long enough, and it always comes to pass where they always slip on a Freudian, and in this case,  admit to their stupidity and ignorance relative to the JUDEO-Christian Bible, priceless revelation!

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Seriously, have you ever thought about going into “Christian Stand-up Comedy” relative to your spin doctoring and the rewriting of the Christian Bible and religion?  All you would have to do is act naturally with your assumed knowledge about the Bible and the earthly entities outside of the Bible!  You would have sell out crowds, where people would be lining up for your Christian Comedy Shows as shown alone in your posts relative to Noah's ark!  You are truly missing your calling!

Listen, I could take time away from my Greyhound Bus Depot Ministries, my Nevada State Brothel Ministries, and my ever so popular, Nudest Camp Ministries to be your  road manager.  We would make millions of dollars on your Satanic Devil Speak apologetics and Satanic spin doctoring!  

Give it a serious thought, okay? Thanks.

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Intelligence_06,

YOUR MISINFORMED QUOTE: " ....  the purpose of christianity. It is not to bring evil into this world."

When Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, created EVIL in the first place, then it is obviously the purpose of Christianity to bring EVIL into the world!    "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." (Isaiah 45:7 KJV). Remember this revealing Bible passage: “EVERY word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.“ (Proverbs 30:5). Therefore, Every word includes the words that Jesus created EVIL!  Do you want to call Jesus a LIAR in this respect, like Tradesecret did on one occasion where he called Jesus' Triune Doctrine a LIAR, therefore committing the dreadful Unpardonable Sin? 

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Stephen,

YOUR REVEALING AND HISTORICAL QUOTE: "The story of the flood is a  Sumerian epic  wrote  about tens of thousands of years before the bible ever came into existence."

Barring the historical FACT that Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate,  didn't have a mind of His own regarding a Flood scenario, do you think that the Sumerians took into account what my post #70 above represents in the many specie of animals, fish, birds, and insects, that somehow reappeared after their flood?  

Poor Tradesecret, I truly feel sorry for him in always running away from Jesus' Biblical axioms that we continue to bring forth, and the science that obviously Jesus has given us!

Can you imagine in how Tradesecrets equally dumbfounded of the Bible cohorts must think of him at this juncture of always running away from Jesus' TRUE words? At least they know when to remain silent, whereas Tradesecret brings forth his total Bible ignorance all the time at his expense! LOL

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YOUR ONCE AGAIN RUNNING AWAY POST: "What I did not agree with was that Jesus is a serial killer. In any event we have had that discussion and you lost. I have no reason to go over it again. At least until you are able to accept you lost or provide some new information we have not discussed in order to make your point. "

First thing, there was no loss whatsoever, but just biblical axioms shown to you that you continue to run away from relative to Jesus being a serial murderer, understood? The fact remains that the millions of HIs creation that He judged, were DEAD in the aftermath, get it? When lives are lost and don't exist anymore in this instance, Jesus becomes a serial murderer, irrelative to His Judging or not!  2+2=4. The comical irony is the fact that you are an alleged attorney? Where did you get your schooling, a Cracker Jacks Box? LOL!

AGAIN: JESUS SAID: "Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." (Isiah 13:16)

The membership and I are awaiting cogent reply this time. Thank you.

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YOUR RUNAWAY QUOTE FROM ME # 382723!: " I am not running from you. I respond to you when I think there is a need to do so."

Okay, to prevent you from RUNNING AWAY again from my posts to you, AND IN THE FRONT OF THE MEMBERSHIP, you once again DID NOT address the biblical axioms and the simple math that I gave you relative to the Noahan Flood! WHY?  Are you too SCARED to do so, knowing that I will continue to easily own your Bible stupidity and ignorance ad infinitum? Is that it? Remember, for the Bible to be TRUE, you need to answer the questions listed below, understand?! 2+2=4.

Relative to the math in my post #62, let me break it down for you so you can address Jesus' biblical axioms so others won't laugh at your runaway status all the time, okay?

1.  How did Noah fit 1.2 million species upon the 510 foot long, 75 foot wide, and 45 foot high Ark (Genesis 6:15)?

2.  Since Jesus created DINOSAURS, how were those fitted upon the Ark as well in 8 pairs of them?

3.  You mentioned water tanks for the fish, then how many gallons of water do you think it took for 8 pairs of Blue Whales that are 100 feet in length within said tanks?

4.  How did Noah and family keep the known 10,000 species of birds x 8 pairs, which equals 80,000 birds, from flyings away from the Ark?

5.  There are 33,600 known species of fish x 8 pairs  = 268,800 fish, how were they kept alive without eating each other in the water tanks that you mentioned?

6.  How did Noah keep 900,000 known species of insects from being trampled by the 19.2  million species of animals upon the Ark?

7.  Noah's Ark was upon the waters for 371 days (Genesis 8:14-15), where did the food come from to feed 19.2 million of animal species, 80,000 birds, 268,800 fish, 900,000 insects, and most importantly, 8 pairs of each of the dinosaurs?

You don't seem to understand that the membership are watching you continually RUNNING AWAY from my posts to you with little boy lame excuses. Now, for once why don't you at least "try" to address the known FACTS and biblical axioms in the questions above. You don't want me to add Noah's Ark  to your list of runaways, do you? No, I didn't think so, therefore we all will await your cogent and godly response this time to the above questions without a "plethora" of more pathetic excuses.  Thank you.

Tradesecret, ask yourself, WWJD?  Would He RUN AWAY like you continually do, or stand ground and explain His Noah's Ark in relation to its inhabitants?  Remember, Jesus is watching you! (Hebrews 4:13) To help you with this latest endeavor, why don't you go to Ken Hams Noah's ark website? Yes? https://www.facebook.com/aigkenham/

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SirAnonymous,

What does the "H" stand for in using this letter at times in His name? Really?  Here, Jesus Holy Christ, get it? You're welcome. :(

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YOUR REVEALING RUNAWAY QUOTE ONCE AGAIN!!!: "As for your numbers - I really don't care. I have done my studies and formed my own conclusions. I don't have to figure out every little or large inconsistency to be convinced of it either way. The only people who care about the inconsistences are those trying to run away from the truth of GOD and judgment. "

What you are saying in your Satanic quote above is that "As for my numbers" you really don't care? Well, that explains a lot about your continued Biblical ignorance!  In this respect, how can you logically form YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS WHEN THE MATH THAT I HAVE GIVEN IS FACT THAT GOES AGAINST ANY CONCLUSIONS WHATSOEVER THAT YOU COULD EMBARRASSINGLY BRING FORTH???!  Then to make matters worse for you in front of the membership, you follow your bible stupidity up with the statement; "The only people who care about the inconsistences are those trying to run away from the truth of GOD and judgment. " HELLO, The TRUTH you state is the biblical axiom of there having to be 1.2 million species of animals on the 450 foot long, 65 foot wide Noah's Ark, BARRING ANY DINOSAURS!!!

Tradesecret, why do you make it so easy for me to continually show your complete Bible ignorance and stupidity as being a pseudo-christian, and again RUNNING AWAY from biblical axioms of the Noahan Flood scenario?! Wait, you have never told the membership on what RUNNING SHOES you wear! Why is that? LOL!

Damn it, we were looking forward to you turning yourself into another Satanic pretzel as you tried in vain to go against the scriptures once again in explaining away my biblical and mathematical facts relative to the Noahan Flood scenario.  You missed another opportunity to make us laugh once again at your expense. :(

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YOUR PLACATING QUOTE: "Covid-19 came from China.   God is in control. He has a plan. And he will bring it to pass"

You are absolutely correct for a change, praise!  Since you biblically agree that Jesus, as the HEBREW serial killer Yahweh God incarnate, is in control of the cover-19 virus, therefore murdering many of His earthly creation, then you are as glad as I am in the fact that at least Jesus is NOT having babies dashed to pieces and women with child ripped open in performing brutal abortions this time as the book of Hosea so states!  Whew, huh?

JESUS SAID: "Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." (Isiah 13:16)

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Intelligence_06,

YOUR QUOTE: "Oh that is why. And I thought it was abnormal of you to support evil but also support christianity."

As a TRUE Christian, I have had to accept that evil and Christianity are synonymous, especially when our serial killer Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, was evil in murdering His creation ad infinitum! Even Jesus mentions that He created evil:  "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." (Isaiah 45:7 KJV)

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zedvictor4,

YOUR UNGODLY QUOTE: " A lot of  bible tales are  metaphors for carnal desires....A sort of pre-curser to the porn mag."

Are you calling Jesus' inspired words as LIES?  There is absolutely NO METAPHOR in the passage in question! 

What part of the LITERAL representation of this passage didn't you understand? “And he went there to Naioth in Ramah. And the Spirit of God came upon him also, and as he went he prophesied until he came to Naioth in Ramah. And he too stripped off his clothes, and he too prophesied before Samuel and lay naked all that day and all that night. Thus it is said, “Is Saul also among the prophets?” (1 Samuel 19: 23-24)

Are you going to be another "Bible Rewriter" like Tradesecret? :(

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Mr. Tradesecret, we need some more laughter at your expense and biblical ignorance once again, okay? Therefore, get out your latest Satanic Christian apologetic books, find your decoder ring, and shake up your crystal ball to address your comical and wishful thinking quote below:

TRADESECRETS REVEALING QUOTE IN POST #60:  "If the ark was the size it claims to be - it was pretty big.  And if the animals on the ark - were infants or babies - then their size would increase the available size. Obviously a baby elephant is going to take up much less room than an adult elephant and eat much less as well. The same applies across all the species.  Some people - have produced examples of how all the animals could fit in the ark. Of course this does not include fish - perhaps there was enough room for the all the fresh water fish - in tanks. Who knows I was not there. "

"Take with you seven pairs of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and one pair of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate," (Genesis 7:2) 

For the mathematically impaired pseudo-christian like you, 7 pairs = 14, plus 1 pair = 2.  14+2=16 TOTAL ANIMAL SPECIES, including ALL of the species within the oceans, insects, birds, etc.  Get it? Yeah, you do.

Now, thus far, there’re 1.2 million different animal species on earth x 16 pairs = 19.2 million species that had to be on Noah’s Ark, and this is barring the extinct dinosaurs that you have to explain as well, understood? Furthermore, Noah and gang were on the waters of Jesus' Great murderous Flood with 19.2 MILLION animal species for 371 DAYS!  We an only assume that poor Noah’s work kept piling up on him, agreed?. (Genesis 8:15–19)

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Tradesecret, The Debate Runaway,  Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, and now the runaway to what division of Christianity he follows,

Unfortunately, along with addressing my Greyhound Bus Depot Ministries upon my absence, I had to take care of my friends animals while he was in the hospital with the Covid-19 virus that Jesus, as God, had given him.  You should be happy that I wasn't here for the last 9 days, where it gave you a breather and a rest regarding me easily showing you to be the number 1 biblical fool here at DEBATEART Relgion forum!  Therefore, the least of which, you should thank me!!!  LOL

Your ungodly and Satanic presence within this forum is totally summed up within this post towards you:

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Tradesecret, The Debate Runaway,  Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, and now the runaway to what division of Christianity he follows,

Do any of you know why TRADESECRET has to RUN AWAY from a debate with me relative to Jesus' TRUE modus operandi? He calls himself a Christian, but he is no more a TRUE Christian than Osama Bin Laden!  Jesus' inspired words state with specificity that TRADESECRET is to defend the faith, but instead, he RUNS AWAY from it! LOL!

I can only assume that TRADESECRET cannot debate me because there're too many "chicken feathers" piled to high around his computer screen and keyboard, therefore this is the excuse to RUN AWAY from me because he can't see! Yes, I have seen MANY pseudo-christians like ol' TRADESECRET that what they thought they knew regarding our faith, when challenged, they  were just little sophomoric  little kids that hid under their beds until TRUE Christians like me left the forum. 

TRADESECRET actually has the audacity to say that Jesus is NOT the Trinity in the Old Testament! I know, QUIT LAUGHING! LOL.  At the embarrassment for TRADESECRET again, and again, and again, He does not read his JUDEO-Christian Bible, where Jesus' inspired words state that Jesus, as the brutal serial killer HEBREW God Yahweh that I have had to accept, does not change.  Therefore, when Jesus is the Triune Doctrine in the NewTestament, He was the Triune in the Old Testament as well. 2+2=4. 

Stephen,

First off and subjectively,  SirAnonymous is one fry short of a Happy Meal. :(   That being said, and using the logic that Jesus as the Hebrew serial killer God of the Bible name Yahweh, then the following has to be stated: 

“Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.” (Psalm 51:5)

The passage above states that a baby born was brought forth in iniquity at birth, and that the mother was in sin when she conceived said zygote first, and then turning into a  fetus. BUT, only when said zygote or fetus is eventually turned into a baby being born, does it have a sinful nature! 

“The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from birth, speaking lies.” (Psalm 58:3)

This passage above states that ONLY when one is estranged from the womb, as being born as a baby, do the passages of a sinful nature occur.

Therefore, a zygote or fetus is NOT born yet, and is therefore sinless, then Jesus as the Hebrew God ONLY, and as a serial killer to His creation in the Great Flood and in His plagues, etc., He murdered, or aborted, innocent zygotes and fetus that were SINLESS! 2+2=4.

I know, as if Jesus' true MO is not sickening enough at times for TRUE Christians like myself to accept, then you have the apologetics of the Tradesecrets that turn themselves into pretzels in trying so hard to make Jesus something that  He is not, and that is a truly a loving and forgiving God, NOT!

Have we ever determined in what brand of RUNNING AWAY SHOES that Tradesecret wears?

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PGA2.0,

YOUR EQUAL QUOTE TO THE RUNAWAY TRADESECRET:  "You're trolling. My opinion is that you have nothing worthwhile to respond to. If you want to debate I am willing to formally debate you, otherwise I will continue to ignore you."

Do you and Tradesecret "trade" statements in how to RUN AWAY from biblical axioms?  Do you two have a class in this arena of how to run away from Jesus' true words? Obviously you do, therefore, why not tell us where this class is on the internet? Okay?  

How can me showing the membership that you are one of the most BIBLE IGNORANT pseudo-christians upon this forum be "trolling?"   Jesus is surely laughing and taking notes at your expense in calling Him a LIAR in His Sermon of the Mount that explicitly states that the Old Testament is to be followed to this day, whereas you Satanically says it is not!!!!  BLASPHEME!

Run along "kid," I have bigger fish to fry!

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Tradesecret, The Debate Runaway,  Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, and now the runaway to what division of Christianity he follows,

TRADESECRETS CHILD-LIKE QUOTE: " the runaway refuses to response. "

What part of my statement herein didn't you understand?:  "You have danced around for so long, and knowing that I am leaving on a trip forthwith, we have lost valuable time in your hiding from the inevitable!  "This is because I only have about 3 days or so to show your continued biblical ignorance at your expense, because of a planed trip, okay? https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3557-what-is-your-favorite-argument-for-the-existence-of-god?page=9&post_number=204

Listen, you have enough problems with your outright Devil Speak and RUNAWAY status in this forum, therefore don't apply notions of you being a "kid" as well which only makes your presence here more embarrassing!

YOUR LAUGABLE AND IGNORANT QUOTE: "And for the record, until you stop hiding behind the façade you pretend to be - Brother D Thomas - whoever you are - despite the links and proofs others have provided - and put your real name down, and your real religion - which is atheism down - then I won't even consider putting my down."

We can see that me being a TRUE Christian is still a stumbling block for you, where you actually think that no Christian can act like me, whereas, the TRUE Christian has to act like me if they read ALL OF the Bible, while I make you the continued Bible fool that you are! LOL

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ludofl3x,

As the only TRUE Christian within this forum, I used to picket Family Planning Clinics upon their 3% abortion rate with placards in hand.  Then, since I read ALL OF the Bible, unlike Tradesecret and PGA2.0, et al, I unfortunately came across the biblical axiom of Jesus, as the brutal serial killer Hebrew God Yahweh incarnate, is not Pro-Life whatsoever because many Biblical passages  have Him murdering innocent zygotes, fetus' and babies.

This was a turning point for me personally, where how could I be disgusted with the abortion clinics, when my Jesus did abortions and murders towards innocent children as well! The following biblical axiom, of which is only ONE OF MANY EXAMPLES of my Jesus performing abortions, and even murdering innocent babies if they were born, is as follows:

As if Jesus didn't truly abort many innocent fetus' in His Great Flood and plagues, the example in the book of Hosea shown above is outright disgusting, but, a TRUE Christian like myself has to turn the cheek and accept Jesus' true modus operandi and just move on the best way that I can. :(

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PGA2/0,

YOUR MOST REVEALING THAT ALLOWS YOU TO RUN AWAY FROM YOUR BIBLE IGNORANCE: "Until you do that I will no longer respond after this post. "

A great RUNAWAY quote, where you should let your equally dumbfounded of the Bible Tradesecret use it too!  You have said many times that you were not going to respond to me before, and then when you do once again, then I can only surmise that you needed another Bible Slapping®️ to show your Bible ignorance once again in front of the membership!

Seriously, you DO NOT have the acumen or the knowledge to defend Christianity, of which I have easily shown ad infinitum, understood? Therefore, save yourself any further embarrassment and actually follow your, and my advice, and remain silent to my posts, and to my posts to you. Get it? Huh? Maybe?  

YOUR TOTALLY BIBLE IGNORANT QUOTE: "As for the Old Covenant and covenant people Jesus came to in the 1st-century, those people no longer live in covenant relationship, and the Old Covenant is obsolete, no longer applicable to the Christian."

PGA2.0, you have shown EVERYONE on this forum in actually how dumbfounded you are in saying that the TRUE Christian does not have to follow the Old Testament. This alone should get you banned from this forum!  Any pseudo-christian like you that can make themselves the continued biblical fool upon this topic, DOES NOT deserve to be upon any religion forum pertaining to Christianity, period!  

For Jesus' sake, LEAVE THIS FORUM!

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Tradesecret, The Debate Runaway,  Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, and now the runaway to what division of Christianity he follows,

I leave on a trip for 9 days to address my Greyhound Bus Depot Ministries, and I come back to this forum, and you are still as dumbfounded of Christianity than when I left!

YOUR CONTINUED RUNAWAY QUOTE: “When you can explain to me why it is important for you to know what division of Christianity, perhaps I might answer. Presently, however for your attention - I am a Christian and I follow the traditional position of the church.”

“Perhaps you might answer?”  Since when it is considered at all to tell others of the division of your faith? Barring that your biography is totally ZERO in content, absolutely ZERO, which only shows that you are ashamed by Christianity, you are obviously to embarrassed to tell the membership in what division of Christianity you follow! LOL!!!  Can you slap Jesus in the face any harder?!  We can only wonder in what Jesus thinks of you being so embarrassed about His faith, that you have to run and hide once again in not telling us the division of the faith that you follow!  I ask you a very simple question, WWJD?

Once again, you are guilty of the following passages!

“For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words, of him will the Son of Man be ashamed when he comes in his glory and the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.” (Luke 9:26)

“For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him will the Son of Man also be ashamed when he comes in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.” (Mark 8:38)

Tradesecret, you are NOT a Christian, but a pseudo-christian at best, where I have easily made you the continued Bible fool!

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Tradesecret, The Debate Runaway,  Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT,

I am going to use your way of thinking, in the way that you would not debate me until I addressed your post #194, remember? Even though you came up with more excuses to RUNAWAY from debating your biblical ignorance upon Jesus' TRUE MO within the scriptures.

Therefore, within the same vein, when you address my question to you relating to what DIVISION of Christianity you follow, then, in part, like your quote in the above link; " I will consider answering your embarrassing quotes in your post #22 above. Get it?  In simpler terms for you to understand, what's good for the goose, is good for the gander. LOL

You embarrassingly are still running away from telling the membership in what DIVISION of Christianity you follow:

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Tradesecret, The Debate Runaway,  Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT,

I asked you this very simple question in my post #262, therefore AGAIN, I will ask it in your behalf once again.

Thanking you in advance for a direct answer this time.

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