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I too had problems in the past with convincing people to vote for a lynch. The solution is simply targeted harassment.
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Current Mafia:
Signups:
Bullish - Crimes mafia
In the Hopper:
That1User: Animation Chaos Mafia
ILikePie5: U.S. House of Representatives Mafia
Crocodile: Jojo mafia
Elminster
drafterman
Lunatic
MisterChris- WWII
Supadudz- Darling In The Franxx, The Disastrous Life of Saiki, Bad Ass Anime Characters
Danielle - 2020 In Review or WIFE Mafia
On Hold
zaradi, Virtuoso, PressF4Respect, RM, BearMan
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@LikeMagic
When u switched votes whiteflame had more votes than drafter, that's a fact. you're tunneling against facts again, just like how you keep saying white never played scum when in fact he has.
"never had 7 votes" is defeatist thinking. When the day is near end and 1 player has 4 or 5 out of 7 votes, the momentum will carry null-reading players to vote for a lynch.
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I scumread white for nearly the same reasons magic did, but the problem here is that we both didn't know his forum meta.
I always scum read people for saying things like:
"it could be A, but it could also not be A"
or
"Player could town, but I might be wrong"
because you just said nothing. But apparently some people just have that irrational fear of being wrong in a damn forum game.
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Crimes Mafia is a themed rolemad mafia game.
Game info
- 11+ players
- DDO/DART-style rolemad mafia
- game may have custom roles
Theme
The theme is crimes. A character is a crime in at least some jurisdictions in the USA. I don't give fake claims to the mafia directly, however they may receive hints and help with fake claims, especially if the theme is a subject they're not familiar with.
Rules
- Respect the game. Your actions should be reasonable and done in your own or your faction's interests to win.
- Respect the players. Do not excessively insult players outside of their gameplay.
- Respect the mod. The mod's decisions are final.
- NO OUTSIDE COMMUNICATION IS ALLOWED. Only talk in the game thread and designated PMs. Do not use private or encrypted communication.
- Do not screenshot or directly quote any private game PMs. You must paraphrase.
- Being inactive or underactive may result in either involuntary replacement or a modkill.
- Votes must be bolded and on a separate line. Like this:
VTL Username.
In addition, you MUST unvote before casting another vote. - A lynch will occur when a player achieves a majority of the votes. When this has happened, any subsequent votes and unvotes will not be counted, and the game will enter twilight, where players may discuss. Night will begin as soon as I have declared the lynch.
- Once you're dead, do not post in the threads until the game is over.
- Punishment will be based on the severity of offense, determined myself, the mod. Punishment can range from a warning, to aide for the other factions, to modkill, to a ban from my future games.
Game specific rules
- 72 hour DP, 24 hour NP
- Majority lynch only
Policies
- If there are role flavors, it will be state publicly that there are flavors.
- If there is an abnormal mechanic I will state that there is an abnormal mechanic.
- No bastard modding, such as not including a mafia, having a Jester, killing everyone on NP1.
- The dead may replace back in if they do not possess exclusive information to the game
- 100% guaranteed randomness in affiliation and role distribution.
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@LikeMagic
How so?
At the time you voted drafter the votecount on him was 1 (lunatic), the vote on whiteflame was 3 (yourself, me, and drafter). https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5360/post-links/231329
That1 had interest in voting whiteflame, we knew that, and she eventually did.
Water can probably be pressured into voting whiteflame, since he was one of the alternative wagons at the time.
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@ILikePie5
Watch/tracker are useless cause of the ninja.
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Yeah maf was OP. They would have controlled the day after a SINGLE mislynch with the hated townie. Which is exactly what happened.
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@LikeMagic
Magic u literally derailed your own wagon on white DP1
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@Speedrace
@MisterChris
@WaterPhoenix
Ok fine how about this
UNVOTE
VTL White
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@drafterman
@Vader
@whiteflame
@That1User
@LikeMagic
UNVOTE
VTL Water
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01 Speedrace - town
02 whiteflame - scum
03 Supa - town
04 Lunatic - scum
05 oromagi - town
06 drafterman - town
07 that1user - null
08 Pie - null
09 LikeMagic - town
10 Bullish - town
11 WaterPhoenix - scum
12 MisterChris - null
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@Speedrace
For me that's more like r/mildyinfuriating
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@drafterman
He could be claiming to be the specific version of Santa Claus from the movie The Santa Clause, who Danielle has colloquially written as "Santa Clause"
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@LikeMagic
Willing to drop White for now. But I feel more certain than ever that he's scum. I will reiterate that the basis is not passivity. I have however fully outlined all of the multiple behavioral things he has done that are scummy and will not rehash them.I am willing to focus on drafter. He is seeming more and more scummy.
Bruh you gotta play politics better than that. Drafter is currently voting whiteflame, your preferred target. If you want your wagon to be hopped on you can't just distance opportunistic allies like that. You know that I and like 2 other people have interest in voting white, that's 5 votes. After that you just need to bully 2 more ppl and u got a lynch.
UNVOTE
VTL Whiteflame
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@oromagi
CIndy Lou Who is a TV character first.
Actually u right, Cindy Lou Who is a book character first.
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So apparently both whiteflame and supa scum read Water, but would rather waste today's lynch on a VTNL.
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Elf on the shelf is an off claim btw, every claim right now has been a movie character. I am also a movie character. Elf on the shelf is a book character. Elf on the shelf is also scummy af cause it's a fucking surveillance state metaphor.
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Supa u absolute tard. How can u say this:
I think it's better to VTNL since there is no clear lynch
WHILE WATER HAS BEEN SITTING ON 4/7 FOR HALF THE DAYPHASE?!!!?
AND NOT ONLY THAT YOU SCUM READ WATER!?!?!?
Scum reads are That1, whiteflame, WaterPhoenix.
????????????????????????????????
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@LikeMagic
Your facepalm comment in response to Water's inno statement seemed especially forced and lacking in town utility.
I don't read that as scum, I've played with drafter for long enough to know he's a vintage memer.
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@drafterman
@Vader
@MisterChris
@LikeMagic
We now have only 5 hours left in the DP, lets get a lynch through on Water.
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@WaterPhoenix
So your only defense is your "memory" That's pretty much the shit excuse I expected.
It's time for u to full claim. You have the biggest wagon right now.
before this you literally ranted about how town was stupid for not knowing suspecting third party is a hard scum tell (#251, #232)
I said hunting TP is a CLASSIC scum tell, not a HARD scum tell. What I said in 232 directly contradicts what you're trying to say I said. You've now been caught twice saying BS against townies.
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@That1User
I don't even scum read u that hard.
Now that I think about it, Lunatic is the one who manipulated you into thinking I'm somehow hard scum reading you, which is sus af. I have at least 2 ppl I'd rather push than you.
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@drafterman
you drafter come here and tell Lunatic that TP hunting is a scum tell.
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@That1User
How about this, I don't vote for you and you vote for water.
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@LikeMagic
I back u up the the third party as a distraction thing BTW. You and I are probably too lazy at this point to sift through a bunch of games to find instances of TP/mechanic trolling. So I'm saying I back u up and he's just gonna have to trust us on this.
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I don't agree that scum have more incentive to hunt for 3rd parties at all.
Well you're wrong cause this is literally one of the classicest of classic scum tells and I am genuinely baffled you of all people do not know about it, and then come here and try to argue against it with a bunch of fallacies.
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@WaterPhoenix
i think i've done a decent job of explaining myself
Are you joking, you have literally not explained yourself.
Why is your play with an IC totally different this game, and why did you lie about "no one mentioned supa being innocent child last game", despite speed allegedly having FIVE posts where supa being IC was directly mentioned to you.
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@Lunatic
I've never heard of this as a classic scum tell before. I definitely don't see it as an SOP thing either, townies have reason to be paranoid of third parties as well. Hell, we've had two very recent 3rd party wins between drafters game and pie's game.
Yes town CAN hunt for TP but as I just explained scum have more incentive to. I pushed airmax as TP harder than anyone else. Scumtells don't have to pin someone as scum to be useful. This is also why I'm pushing Water cause his scum slip is a lot more serious.
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@Lunatic
Didn't you just vote pie for fluff posting?
That wasn't fluff posting btw, that was creating a comparison between how whiteflame responds to awkward everyday situations vs how he response to awkward in game situations. I've used the same strat in live mafia, some of you may remember my line of questioning toward NothingSpecial.
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@WaterPhoenix
I want water to explain his lying ass self, and when I am not satisfied with his explanation I want him to full claim.
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@Lunatic
The statements about that1 theorizing about 3rd parties meaning she is scummy, without substantiating it or clarifying whether it was a joke
How do you not know about this, hunting for 3rd parties is classic classic scum tell that goes all the way back.
When you're scum and you can't fake a scum read on town and you don't want to scum read a buddy, you try to hunt for TPs because it looks genuine.
Last friday's Star Wars mafia I was harping on Airmax for his PGO + Jango fett claim the whole game as probably TP. And guess what I was scum that game.
And look, JUST as I make this post that1 is talking about TPs again!
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@Lunatic
come off as trying to hard to sell yourself as a master investigator
That's some big bs
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@LikeMagic
If you think Water has a solid chance of being scum then I'd much rather lynch water. Speed just caught a very good scumslip.
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@LikeMagic
That is not true. The objective of the game is to catch scum. The objective of scum is to mislynch and avoid being caught.
To paraphrase a player I respect, if I could lynch everyone I would. Because if I lynch everyone then I win.
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@Lunatic
or if he actually is town and thinking he's got leads with piss poor reasoning. Hmm..
It was like 100 posts into DP1, who's reads aren't piss poor?
I asked white some questions and found his response satisfactory.
If I'm gonna tunnel anyone now it's water.
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@LikeMagic
I think one of Whiteflam or Bullish is likely scum, but not both. White because he's contributing regularly in a non-contributory way. It feels forced, like he's playing narrator without actually hunting scum. He echos obvious observations or statements and anything remotely novel he says he seems willing to backdown from immediately as almost a gut reaction to realizing he's drawn attention to himself. I have never played with White before, so this is based on no prior information. Conversely, if White is town, I think Bullish is scum because he jumped on White so fast and almost came across like he saw White as an easy target.
I agree with all of this except the part where I'm scum. Why wouldn't I jump on an easy target even as town? The objective of the game is to lynch.
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@Speedrace
Sounds like scum water not knowing how to play with an inno townie, because he played in MY game as town with an inno child and had 0 problems
yo speed just caught scum
UNVOTE
VTL Water
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@WaterPhoenix
wdym "what" is having a role that is literally town confirmed at the start and free np1 kill for maf not anti town
bruh
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@whiteflame
Haven't gotten food with Mikal yet
would ur wife approve
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