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@ILikePie5
@warren42
@PressF4Respect
The choice is clear, please just vote water.
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Press is obv town cause behaviour, warren is obv town cause he wouldn't make those dumb af night kills, pie is inno'd. Cookie is also scummy af by behaviour. I'm telling yall, the game is solved, just do the lynches please.
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I'm cop, I got a guilty on water. I got an inno on Pie NP1. my char is Shallan Davar.
Lynch water, and please for the love of fuck lynch cookie tomorrow when I die, it can't be more obvious.
VTL Water
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Who the fuck vig'd croc when we had an even number of players
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@Crocodile
Damn dude u need to just answer the simple question. I mean I know what the answer is but when there's like 3 people asking with their votes on u, u need to step up and clarify.
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@Speedrace
d00d, it says right there in my quote, “if several players are equally likely to be scum” then immediately in ur rely your like but what if one of them is “actually being scummy”
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@Speedrace
Why did u stop voting/pressuring me today, when u were voting me until the very end last DP, AND both my scum reads last DP flipped town?
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@Speedrace
u know it's like how scum kills the best town players first.
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@Speedrace
bruh
if several players are equally likely to be scum, it's the smart move to lynch the one who would be the most beneficial to the scum team.
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@Speedrace
the chance of me being scum isn't correlated with my reputation as scum
But if you are scum it makes the scum team more dangerous.
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Get your votes off croc. Scum is between speed, cookie, and water by POE.
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@warren42
Bullish, why do you want to lynch speed?
Cause he's 1 of 3 on my not-town list, and he's developed a reputation as a scum player. Also he voted for me last DP.
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Croc is big time town, last DP he was confused when I asked him who's in his "scum PM." This DP he thought DD was still alive. Croc isn't the type of player to pull behavioural gambits like this, trust me I saw his posts in the poker mafia scum discord.
Which makes the fast wagon on croc incredibly sus. I'd lynch all of them.
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Current Mafia
Lunatic - Stormlight Archives
Signups
warren42 - Pick Your Poison
In the Hopper
Mharman - Satire Mafia
PressF4Respect - JARGOM 2.0
SupaDudz- Naruto
ILikePie5 - U.S Senators, Civil War Generals, Taco Bell
Crocodile - Jojo Mafia
Speedrace - Arrowverse
Bullish
On Hold
zaradi, Virtuoso, drafterman, danielle
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I town read Croc based on this post: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4565/post-links/190075
My town pile today are myself, press, warren, pie, and croc.
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@Speedrace
I touched on this last DP, he harped on Press multiple times for "OMGUSing" DD, but when DD OMGUS'd literally the first 3 people who voted him, Supa said nothing.
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If I was scum I'd actually kill press because he's so town right now.
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@warren42
bruh why do u vote some guy with 0 votes on him with 1.5 hours left in the DP, you oughta know this is a pro scum move. Remember how YYW saved u by literally filibustering town for the last 1/4 of the DP in that live mafia game?
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@ILikePie5
@warren42
@WaterPhoenix
@skittlez09
@Crocodile
I'm weighing my options here, is it easier to get 2 more people to vote DD or 4 more people to vote Supa in the remaining 1.5 hours of the DP?
UNVOTE
VTL Supa
DD and Supa are my top scum reads, warren and press are my top town reads.
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BTW Supa accused Press of OMGUS, but then says nothing when DD OMGUS all 3 people voting him at the time.
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I didn't ask DD for a claim when he was 4/6 for that reason.
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@warren42
@Crocodile
Let's get this DD lynch through. Like I exlained, the doc claim is worthless:
Doc claim is totally meaningless. Lunatic game scum COP as a fake claim, in a game where there was a MILLER and no town COP. https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3645-recycled-roles-endgame-town-wins
Docs aren't even confirmable, we all know scum has plenty of visiting roles and scum on this site love to waive the NK apparently. DD's behaviour is more than scummy enough to get lynched.
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This is likely a 8 vs 2 game, in a theme that apparently none of us know anything about. This is prime material for Lunatic to give mega fake claims in. As far as I'm concerned, you claim the main character, it's meaningless. You claim a big power role, it's meaningless unless it can be corroborated by other actions.
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@ILikePie5
Policy lynches are for when there are no clear scum reads and you want to lynch someone who's null but very unlikely to have a power role. Press is very townie IMO.
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Doc claim is totally meaningless. Lunatic game scum COP as a fake claim, in a game where there was a MILLER and no town COP. https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3645-recycled-roles-endgame-town-wins
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Press isn't even remotely scummy. In all my time playing mafia, mafia has only fake claimed miller once (Lunatic), and he was immediately CC'd that game. The way press claimed miller is totally inline with operating standards, he did it very early even though he could have waited a plausible deniable long period of time. Press also came out of the gate swing with an VTL, which is very townie. Look at how much flak he caught for doing that, scum usually lay low. He's also been far more on the attack, trying to scumhunt, a townie move.
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@warren42
If there is scum between Disc/Press, I'd go with the former. I'm not convinced this isn't two townies bickering though.
With 12 hours in the DP it's time to pick, if you get on the wagon, we're theoretically at L-1.
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Press isn't even fluffing, why would anyone accuse him of fluffing.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
@WaterPhoenix
in post 172 he explicitly says that he town reads cookie
Lies. lieslieslies. I said I was "cool" with him, which isn't even implicitly a town read.
Water can u vote this guy. We have 12 hours left in the DP.
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@Vader
OMGUS isn't inherently scummy. Miller claim is only scummy when pressured; SOP claiming miller isn't scummy.
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@skittlez09
dd also seems pretty scummy cuz as soon aw pressure was on him he shifted it to me instead plus it was also scummy asf claiming hella early
Also what do you mean "claiming hella early" cause DD didn't claim.
Unless you're in a scum PM with him and thought he claimed, because he called the fake claim.
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I'm cool with lil cookie, we have 24 hours left, it's time to consolidate a lynch.
UNVOTE
VTL DD
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@skittlez09
dd also seems pretty scummy cuz as soon aw pressure was on him he shifted it to me instead plus it was also scummy asf claiming hella early
very good analysis. So you're willing to lynch DD right? vote him pls.
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I'm town reading supa now. He's putting a lot of townish effort into the game, even though some of it makes no sense.
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@warren42
Based off only page 1 I think it's very clear that Press is town.
agreed.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
he isn't paying attention
He didn't even ping you in that post, which aligns with his explanation that he was addressing town. I do that all the time, a lot of this game is about convincing the rest of town. Your explanation however about you not paying attention to his name claim remains that you simply weren't paying attention.
Press wasn't OMGUSing, what you're doing is a far better example of OMGUSing. You're accusing press of doing what you did, when he didn't even do what you did. You're vote is also still on him.
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Anyone familiar with stormlight archives? is there a clearly evil faction?
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@PressF4Respect
So am I not allowed to agree with people? Me and Disc aren't the most alike thinkers in the world by any means. This isn't us just teaming. My lynch is not on you right now, and his is. You are getting very close thoughI’m gonna leave this one for town
yup, triggering my gut scumread.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
honestly I was tempted to town read press before post 53, but now I am starting to think that his whole "scum pay less attention" thing might have been him projecting. Perhaps he pays less attention as scum, in which case post 51 is pretty damning.
How is it damning? Projection is exactly one of the tactics I use to scum hunt. You were not paying attention. I pay less attention as scum. That's evidence you're scum.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
@PressF4Respect
Lol okay buddy good luck with that.
And so he will
VTL DD
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@RationalMadman
I think only their powers should be secret, not their roles.
You're right in that this game could potentially be reused as an open set up.
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@ILikePie5
I also told him he could say he investigated himself and got guilty. I was laying every option out there.
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I am slapping myself for making that NK mistake. If I didn't, mafia would probably be slapping themselves. As I pointed out after the mistake had been made, why would croc NK someone who he "copped" and got an inno on?
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Basically everything croc did this game was coached. He's a relatively new player, the game mechanics were kind of complicated, and he knew nothing about poker.
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