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@Discipulus_Didicit
In holdem you're only allowed to make a hand out of 5 cards.
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Track and watch were a lot less powerful in this game, because town could also do the NK. That's why I put them in the low-tier roles.
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@RationalMadman
@oromagi
@Discipulus_Didicit
@Speedrace
@BearMan
gam
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@Vader
@ILikePie5
@warren42
@PressF4Respect
@Crocodile
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Heads up (NP5): https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4561-poker-mafia-heads-up
Town
SupaDudz - Phil Hellmuth - You are known as “the Poker Brat” for your temperamental attitude at the table and your tendency to trash talk your opponents all time time - especially after a bad beat. However you don’t seem to let that temperament tilt you, you have fifteen World Series of Poker bracelets, the highest of any player.
warren42 - Chris Moneymaker - Yes, your name is literally Moneymaker. You were the first World Series of Poker winner to have qualified through online tournaments. Your win led a large increase in interest in the game of poker, which was dubbed the "Moneymaker Effect."
Discipulus_Didicit - Johnny Moss - Known as the “The Grand Old Man of Poker,” you learned how to gamble and play cards at a young age. You were born in Texas and travelled around Texas playing high stakes games. You were the first ever World Series of Poker Main Event winner, then you won it 2 more times.
RationalMadman - Johnny Chan - You tie for 2nd place for the most WSOP bracelets won, at 10 bracelets. You were born in China, then your parents moved to the US to become restaurant owners, but you dropped out of college at 21 to become a professional poker player, which really worked out for you.
BearMan - Archie Karas - You’re from Greece and your full name is Anargyros Nicholas Karabourniotis. Although some consider you a weak poker player, you are a prolific gambler, having gone from $0 to millions back to 0 then millions again many times.
PressF4Respect - Doyle Brunson - One of many Texas players, you’re considered one of the most influential poker players. In your younger years you would play high-stakes illegal games organized by criminals, and you would have guns pulled on you for winning too much. You tie for 2nd place for the most WSOP bracelets won, at 10 bracelets.
ILikePie5 - Daniel Negreanu - You are a skilled poker player with career winnings of over $42 million, a lot of it for charity. You attribute your skills at poker to the ability to read people. You’re also a Hearthstone streamer.
Mafia
Crocodile - Stu Ungar - You were a poker prodigy and is widely considered THE best poker player of all time. Unfortunately you succumbed to fame and died of cocaine overdose at age 45. Stu Ungar’s childhood and history is way too interesting to be described in a paragraph, read about him here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stu_Ungar
Speedrace - Phil Ivey - You were considered one of the best modern day poker players since you won your first World Series of Poker bracelet at age 23. Now you tie for 2nd place for the most WSOP bracelets won, at 10 bracelets.
oromagi - JC Tran - You’re a well-rounded player from Vietnam who has had numerous money finishes in the World Series of Poker, World Poker Tour, and various casino tournaments.
Mafia abilities
The mafia has 2 day ability and 2 1-shot night abilities. Only one ability may be used per phase. You do NOT have a factional night kill.
PEEK (day) - the mafia may choose to peek at one other player’s cards.
EDGE MARK (day) - the mafia may choose to look at what are the next 6 cards that will be dealt. This means the turn and river cards, and 4 additional cards which are guaranteed to not be in play this DP.
COLLUDE (night) - once per game, the mafia who have not folded may choose to swap any cards between each other.
CARD UP SLEEVE (night) - once per game, one mafia member may choose to introduce any card, excluding a community card, Joker, or a card the player already has, into his hand. The introduced card will be permanently shuffled into the deck, and the replaced card will be permanently removed.
Town Roles
High card - miller
Pair - tracker
Two pair - watcher
Three of a kind - cop
Straight - BP, effective this night only
Flush - doc (no self-doc)
Full house - popular next DP
Four of a kind - double vote next DP
Straight Flush - vig
Five of a kind - declared innocent child
Mafia Roles
High card - goon
Pair - roleblocker
Two pair - lookout (same as watcher)
Three of a kind - lawyer
Straight - BP, effective this night only
Flush - ninja (can only be used in conjunction with night kill)
Full house - strongman (can only be used in conjunction with night kill)
Four of a kind - double vote
Straight Flush - additional kill
Five of a kind - additional ninja strongman kill
Actions
1. SupaDudz - town - Phil Hellmuth - DP1: TD,3D (doc RM); DP2: 9S,WR (cop oro); DP3: 3H,AC (track RM); DP4: 4H,5D (NK press, watch croc); DP5: 2C,TD dead
2. warren42 - town - Chris Moneymaker - DP1: 6D,TH (cop oro) dead;
3. ILikePie5 - town - Daniel Negreanu - DP1: 2D,4S (cop speed); DP2: 3H,5C (track); DP3: 2D,2H (track RM) died;
4. PressF4Respect - town - Doyle Brunson - DP1: KC,QD (BP); DP2: 2C,9C (check/fold); DP3: 3S,9S (miller); DP4: JS,KC (track waive); dead;
5. Crocodile - mafia - Stu Ungar - DP1: 4C,3H (lawyer croc); DP2: WB,7H (kill oro); DP3: AH,JC (lookout Supa, kill Pie); DP4: 3C,9D (RB waive); DP5: KC,5H (kill RM)
6. Oromagi - mafia - JC Tran - DP1: JC,JS (double vote); DP2: 9D,JC (RB pie); dead;
7. Discipulus_Didicit - town - Johnny Moss - DP1: 6S,7D (BP) dead;
8. BearMan - town - Archie Karas - DP1: KH,3C (cop speed); DP2: 4D,2D (check/fold); DP3: TC,WR (track forfeit); DP4: QC,2C dead;
9. Speedrace - mafia - Phil Ivey - DP1: 8H,9H (steals 9C, kills warren, n-s-kills Disc); DP2: 5H,JS lynched;
10. RationalMadman - town - Johnny Chan - DP1: 4D,6H (cop oro); DP2: QH,KH (miller); DP3: 9D,JS (track croc); DP4: AH,KC (track Supa); DP5: 5C,JC ()
Commentary
The game was designed so mafia would most likely get the majority of the night kills through cheating, and they did.
Intense game, especially for mafia. Croc really did pull that oro-kill gambit, at the advice of scum and myself. By DP3 I thought the chance of mafia winning was lower than 10%.
Phase 1's cards were crazy, and it was completely by chance. It resulted in 4 cops for town. Mafia would have used their cheat ability to come up with up to 3 lawyers if they wanted to, they they went for the yolo play of getting that 5 of a kind for the additional kill. So croc ended up with the only lawyer and lawyered himself, which was unlucky because he was the only one to not get copped.
Since oro was going to die anyway croc decided to try his luck at the ultimate gambit. He got very lucky with the cards and town bickering to survive and win the game.
NP3 the mafia tried to kill Press, but I misread and killed pie instead. I made that mistake but I think it ended up in favor of mafia, because Supa killed Press.
RM was kind of right about the mafia roles. The mafia roles for Pair, Flush, Full house, and Five of a kind (4 out of 10 hands) would have resulted in a non-town-confirmable role. It was again luck that scum didn't hit any of those hands on the nights when it really mattered.
RM did very well this game in terms of reads. His extensive poker knowledge also helped town. On DP1 he called out all 3 scum in a single post. He was also the only one to seriously consider that croc may have killed oro as a gambit. I don't think he was more anti-town than anyone else in the game, which breaks from his usual meta. At the end of the day RM was the most correct about who was scum out of all the living town players.
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It's a forgone conlusion! Croc wins the NK with tow pair and kills RM.
RM was town. Endgame coming up.
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The river: KD
Visualize all 5 cards: https://bu11ish.github.io/cards/?cards=6H,AC,5D,8D,KD
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Actually you're right about the joker. A joker would result in Croc winning.
But a 6 or 8 would result in a tie, because both players would have 2 pair, two 5s and two 6s or 8s, and the Ace kicker would be used in place of the King and Jack, which would result in a tie.
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RM still has a couple outs: a jack would result in a win; a 6, 8, or any joker results in a tie (without cheats)
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@RationalMadman
Well the odds are wrong any way, because this calculator doesn't take into account a joker. I'm gonna stop posting odds.
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The turn: 8D
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As a reminder, the flop of DP5
The flop: 6H,AC,5D
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@RationalMadman
@oromagi
@Discipulus_Didicit
@Speedrace
@BearMan
everyone is welcome to spectate
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@Vader
@ILikePie5
@warren42
@PressF4Respect
@Crocodile
everyone is welcome to spectate
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Poker Mafia - Heads up
Died last DP:
SupaDudz - Affiliation: town
Player: Phil Hellmuth - You are known as “the Poker Brat” for your temperamental attitude at the table and your tendency to trash talk your opponents all time time - especially after a bad beat. However you don’t seem to let that temperament tilt you, you have fifteen World Series of Poker bracelets, the highest of any player.
Living players:
1. Crocodile
2. RationalMadman
This is a special night phase 5. Both players will get their roles and NKs as per the game mechanic. However, both players know exactly who to target. Once I deal the turn and the river, the all remaining actions in the game will be set in stone, and the game will end.
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Official Vote Count
Supa (2/2) - RM, croc,
RM (1/2) - supa,
SupaDudz has been lynched. He was town.
SupaDudz - Affiliation: town
Player: Phil Hellmuth - You are known as “the Poker Brat” for your temperamental attitude at the table and your tendency to trash talk your opponents all time time - especially after a bad beat. However you don’t seem to let that temperament tilt you, you have fifteen World Series of Poker bracelets, the highest of any player.
Because of the complete kill mechanic, the game is not yet over! The game moves to Heads up!
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Official Vote Count
RM (1/2) - supa,
Supa (1/2) - RM,
Not voting: Croc,
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hey RM can u limit the number of times u post the word "unvote"
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The flop: 6H,AC,5D
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Poker Mafia - DP5
Died last DP:
BearMan - Affiliation: town
Player: Archie Karas - You’re from Greece and your full name is Anargyros Nicholas Karabourniotis. Although some consider you a weak poker player, you are a prolific gambler, having gone from $0 to millions back to 0 then millions again many times.
Died in the night:
PressF4Respect - Affiliation: town
Doyle Brunson - One of many Texas players, you’re considered one of the most influential poker players. In your younger years you would play high-stakes illegal games organized by criminals, and you would have guns pulled on you for winning too much. You tie for 2nd place for the most WSOP bracelets won, at 10 bracelets.
Living players:
1. SupaDudz
2. Crocodile
3. RationalMadman
With 3 players alive, it takes 2 votes to lynch.
This DP lasts ~72 hours. DP3 ends 07/27 14:00 EST.
This DP lasts ~72 hours. DP3 ends 07/27 14:00 EST.
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Official Vote Count
bear (3/3) - RM, bear, supa
Not voting: press, croc,
BearMan has been lynched. He was town.
Speedrace - Affiliation: town
Player: Archie Karas - You’re from Greece and your full name is Anargyros Nicholas Karabourniotis. Although some consider you a weak poker player, you are a prolific gambler, having gone from $0 to millions back to 0 then millions again many times.
The turn and river: 9H,6H
The DP has ended. Send me your night actions. PM me if you need help determining what hand and role you have.
NP1 ends 07/24 ~14:00 Eastern.
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Official Vote Count
bear (1/3) - RM,
Not voting: supa, press, croc, bear
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@RationalMadman
@Vader
@PressF4Respect
@Crocodile
@BearMan
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The flop: 5C,4C,KD
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Poker Mafia - DP4
Died last DP:
None.
Died in the night:
ILikePie5 - Affiliation: town
Player: Daniel Negreanu - You are a skilled poker player with career winnings of over $42 million, a lot of it for charity. You attribute your skills at poker to the ability to read people. You’re also a Hearthstone streamer.
Living players:
1. SupaDudz
2. PressF4Respect
3. Crocodile
4. BearMan
5. RationalMadman
With 5 players alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch.
This DP lasts ~72 hours. DP3 ends 07/24 18:00 EST.
This DP lasts ~72 hours. DP3 ends 07/24 18:00 EST.
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Official Vote Count
VTNL (4/4) - pie, bear, supa, RM,
Supa (2/4) - croc, press,
No lynch occurred.
The turn and river: 6D,4D
Visualize all 5 community cards: https://bu11ish.github.io/cards/?cards=JD,AS,7H,6D,4D
The DP has ended. Send me your night actions. PM me if you need help determining what hand and role you have.
NP1 ends 07/21 ~17:00 Eastern.
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I had the time wrong previously, you have until TOMORROW to the DP ends.
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@PressF4Respect
Other people are correct, three 10s > three 9s.
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Official Vote Count
Supa (2/4) - croc, press,
VTNL (1/4) - pie,
pie (1/4) - RM,
Not voting: bear, supa
~25 hours remaining in the DP.
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@PressF4Respect
What would happen if two people are tied for the highest role?
The pot is split; everyone is informed, and no one gets the kill.
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Official Vote Count
Supa (2/4) - RM, croc,
pie (1/4) - Supa,
VTNL (1/4) - pie,
Not voting: bear, press,
~17 hours remaining in the DP.
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pie (1/4) - Supa,
VTNL (1/4) - pie,
Supa (1/4) - RM,
Not voting: bear, press, croc
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we can change whether we folded or bet during the day
yes you can make any decision as long as it's done before the turn and river show
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Official Vote Count
pie (1/4) - Supa,
Not voting: pie, bear, press, RM, croc
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Bear (1/4) - croc,
Not voting: Supa, pie, bear, press, RM
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The flop: JD,AS,7H
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Poker Mafia - DP3
Died last DP:
Speedrace - Affliation: mafia
Player: Phil Ivey - You were considered one of the best modern day poker players since you won your first World Series of Poker bracelet at age 23. Now you tie for 2nd place for the most WSOP bracelets won, at 10 bracelets.
Died in the night:
oromagi - Affliation: mafia
Player: JC Tran - You’re a well-rounded player from Vietnam who has had numerous money finishes in the World Series of Poker, World Poker Tour, and various casino tournaments.
Living players:
1. SupaDudz
2. ILikePie5
3. PressF4Respect
4. Crocodile
5. BearMan
6. RationalMadman
With 6 players alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.
This DP lasts ~72 hours. DP3 ends 07/20 19:00 EST.
This DP lasts ~72 hours. DP3 ends 07/20 19:00 EST.
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Official Vote Count
Speed (4/5) - oro, RM, pie, croc,
Not voting: Supa, bear, speed, press
Speedrace has been lynched. He was mafia.
Speedrace - Affliation: mafia
Player: Phil Ivey - You were considered one of the best modern day poker players since you won your first World Series of Poker bracelet at age 23. Now you tie for 2nd place for the most WSOP bracelets won, at 10 bracelets.
The turn and river: 2H,8S
Visualize all 5 community cards: https://bu11ish.github.io/cards/?cards=9C,3S,TH,2H,8S
The DP has ended. Send me your night actions. PM me if you need help determining what hand and role you have.
NP1 ends 07/17 ~21:00 Eastern.
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