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@Cerulean
Sure, but it could still work in a 4v3 or 3v2 LyLo, right? As long as the people cross voting aren't you.
that is true
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idk why austin is just outing cerulean's soft claim, but it's a town move.
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@WyIted
Yes it's the governor which I have never seen as a town role but he is widely town read for making the claim for some reason.
governor is a town role cause it's busted as a scum role.
And you're scummy af for doubting me but then somehow being so confident in my willingness to unlynch you
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@AustinL0926
Can you explain how that means it's disabled at LYLO?
in a 2v1 lylo scenario one of the players has to vote for themselves for my ability to work
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@AustinL0926
There's a stipulation that I personally could not have voted for the person I'm going to pardon. Also I can't pardon myself. So it's functionally disabled at lylo.
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@whiteflame
we have to keep the colors together
damn when did whiteflame get so edgy? def a scum tell
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@Cerulean
Isn't it obvious? Casey wanted to give me a runback after I got so close to winning last game.
but this explanation doesn't account for why whiteflame scum.
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@ILikePie5
I'm not opposed to full claiming because my role is confirmable.
I am 12 Angry Men. I am governor, I can nullify a lynch (of someone who is not me) and skip the nightphase. This is because in the film, the jury returns not guilty based on the doubt of only 1 juror.
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Negotiating votes in mafia has made me realize what being a politician is really all about.
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@Best.Korea
I can tell you're gonna become a good mafia player one day, cause you got the 2 necessary qualities: 1) argumentative 2) self-righteous.
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@WyIted
I was reading pie mainly off of you that's why I said I "buy" your post not "agree" with it
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@RationalMadman
ur right about 1 thing and that's I was lazy.
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@Best.Korea
I even came close to winning the game.
how tf did u talk urself into believing this
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@ILikePie5
ILikePie5 - Stalk BullishWhiteflame - Cop BullishBest.Korea - Protect BullishUr a popular guy
yeah so my reasoning was right but my conclusion was wrong.
I thought scum didn't target me because they didn't know who I was, but they actually didn't target me because they DID know who I was.
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@ILikePie5
BK is town because his justification for his action makes no sense. He could have said he protected GP, OR he could have said he got roleblocked. If he's scum there's no reason for him to stack 2 things that make no sense in justification.
Also, the motivator role essentially halves the utility of all other PRs. so having cop/track/doc makes sense with that role flipped.
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@ILikePie5
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I don't wanna lynch BK anymore, I bet it's GP and joebob
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@Best.Korea
I wanna hear from BK first, then we should lay our cards down and mass claim cause this is LyLo
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@AustinL0926
mechanics trumps behavioral reads
absolutely not unless it's a mod confirmation
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@ILikePie5
Why do you all townread JoeBob
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I buy Wylted's effort post 100% https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/10658/posts/430683
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I've made many clown moves in my life so what's one more?
I'm gonna vote BK in a few hours unless he comes up with some really convincing reason for doccing me last night.
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BK:
Well, if you want to go with the least likely theory of me being scum doing some advanced strategy and faking doctor, go for it.
This makes it sound more likely IMO that BK is a gambit player.
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@Best.Korea
Imma need a real reason why you protected me
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I want to lynch BK but also I kind of don't, because if he actually turns out to be doc we're gonna look like a bunch of clowns.
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I can't softclaim because any softclaim I make will be too obvious. Take that as my softclaim.
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So myself, wylted, and pie all behaviourally scum read BK
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The way that joebob just said "No" to my question is very townie.
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@AustinL0926
3 main points against BK in my mind
1. my world view rn is that scum team consists of players I haven't played with before. That's BK, Austin, and joebob
2. I disagree with every point he's made this DP
3. his justification to protect me made no sense.
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BK/Austin is the only scum team that conforms to my world view right now
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