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Nothing we can wear is going to be 100% effective, but the point for me is that if a mask can mitigate the danger at all, it's worth it. It's literally better than nothing.
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@Greyparrot
While you are sitting on the edge of your seat tracking what CNN calls "the greatest health crisis America has ever faced"This little factoid comes from government census data.For every COVID-19 death recorded since January, TWENTY new babies were added to the American population.That's 2 with a zero folks.
That's exactly what I tell the police every time I murder someone. TWENTY new babies are born for every man I torture, dismember, and bury in my backyard. Why won't they listen to me? TWENTY.
That's two with a zero, folks.
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@RoderickSpode
Absolutely not!Well, there actually wouldn't be any "Utopia" at all.Some people seem to get upset when atheists (of the western humanist variety) are associated or equated with communist atheists (in response to equating 9/11 and the Spanish inquisition to Christianity).American atheist activists are pro-atheism. Communist atheists, like in China are anti-religion. So there's really no difference other than a reshuffling on emphasis. And that's exactly what an atheist society in America would become. A totalitarian society that would be forced to use communist tactics to control religion.There's this idea that because church attendance may decline at times, Christians will faze out eventually through lack of Christian reproduction. Christianity is not a racial/ethnic group, and the thorn-in-the-flesh for atheists would always be conversions. At best, cultural Christianity might become extinct, but what's to stop recurring conversions that constantly have frustrated communist States like China?
Any nation that attempts to prohibit freedom of belief and individual liberties will adopt totalitarian characteristics. Why does it matter if the regime is atheistic or religious, communist or capitalist? And why would a western atheist want a nation without democratic values?
Personally I think you just got sick of Christianity being equated to Islamic terrorism or some such and finally snapped and just started ranting about communists. Like you heard one too many "9/11's" and "Spanish Inquisitions" and were like "Oh yeah well COMMUNISTS! Communist ATHEISTS! Comm -- communatheists!"
Is that what happened, Rod? I feel like that's what happened, Rod.
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@sadolite
The autopsy will show he died of a heart attack or some kind of organ failure due to the drugs that were in his system at the time, not asphyxiation. Just saying. When it comes time to testify "under oath" the corner is gonna tell it like it really is. Forget what you have heard on the news.
The final autopsy findings came out on June 1. Homicide, caused by "cardiopulmonary arrest" from "law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression." The drugs are listed under "other significant conditions."
Can't imagine why the medical examiner would discredit his own report in court, but that said, it won't surprise me if Chauvin gets off.
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@Stephen
That he was not a saint makes him no less a victim.I agree. He was a victim of murder. What more D'ya want?
A gaming rig, a dishwasher, my family's medical bills paid off, and a lifetime supply of black cherry Mike's Hard Lemonade.
I guess I also sort of want the focus to be on police brutality against an unarmed restrained man, and not on whether the unarmed restrained man was a good or bad person.
Just like, in that 2007 case, I would not have wanted the focus to be on whether the woman Floyd robbed was a good or bad person - and if someone had told me she had a criminal record, I would have said that was irrelevant in the context of the injustice Floyd did to her.
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That he was not a saint makes him no less a victim.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
do you remember that guy in NYC a bunch of cops piled on for selling cigarettes, he died, but I seem to recall he said the same thing and in the investigation or court proceedings, I forget the exact details but the gist of it is, if you can talk, you are breathing, I believe that is just a biological fact, if it's true this guy was saying that as soon as they pulled him out of the car then that could be a pretty powerful defense for him, hopefully we'll find out the truth one way or another.after he stopped moving.....ignorance of medical stuff will be a defense I think, also he will probably claim he thought the guy had finally calmed down which is plausible from other videos I've seen, eventually they stop fighting in most cases. I personally wouldn't believe the excuses they come up with but that is part of how our legal system works, but we'll see.as a side note, the cop remained unemotional, calm if you will, that does not mean he didn't care, that alone can't prove that.
Still doesn't explain why they got him into the police car but Chauvin dragged him out again.
"Your Honor, he wouldn't get in the car, so we decided to pull him out of the car and sit on him until he got in the car." ??
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@Greyparrot
It's possible the prosecution has evidence we don't - something in the body cam footage or elsewhere that further supports intent to harm.It's more than possible. It is probable.
Fine, it's possiprobable.
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It's possible the prosecution has evidence we don't - something in the body cam footage or elsewhere that further supports intent to harm.
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@RationalMadman
You're back!
So, lessee...
1. Depressants.
2. Compassion.
3. Creative thinking.
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@DebateArt.com
Welcome back, it's been a while :)
Hey, thanks Mike. I hope things have been treating you all right.
I really would love to be back, but several of my favorite people have left. 😞
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@Vader
Did bish say if he would ever return as a regular member/contributor? Did Rash?
Rash = RationalMadman, btw.
I get mild satisfaction knowing that I basically have top the charts in every forum category. Lol xD
Tis easy to advance through empty rooms, Sup ma boi.
And lonely.
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What? So bish never came back and Rash has left?
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@David
I don't have a question, but I want to say good luck. It's the start of a new era, one you get to define.
Don't let yourself or your team get too discouraged by criticism or toxic drama. It's easy to criticize, and hard to lead.
Again, good luck.
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@ShabShoral
Pinning this as an example “PC Culture” is wildly reductionist
Ignoring everything I've said except this one thing is wildly reductionist. I guess we're even.
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@Annie_ESocialBookworm
I just can't pick a favorite, but my favorites list includes Little Shop of Horrors, Fiddler on the Roof, Grease, Rocky Horror Picture Show, Jesus Christ Superstar, Willy Wonka (Gene Wilder version), The Sound of Music, The Phantom of the Opera, and more Disney movies than I could name without posting tl;dr levels of text.
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@RationalMadman
Thanks man. I always appreciated your support.
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@Annie_ESocialBookworm
*handshake* Castin, pleased to meet you. I like sci-fi/fantasy and musicals even though musicals are out of fashion. I may not be sticking around long.
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@Annie_ESocialBookworm
Yeah, I didn't really have you in mind when I said that, but I need to apologize for that remark at least as it applies to you. My bad.
- Claim that this was based on "preexisting personal hate"
- I don't know where you may have heard this. Bsh1 and I were friends (as of yesterday I would use the past tense.) Bsh1 and I have had our disagreements in the past but we were able to engage in civil and polite conversations and you can confirm this with him if you'd like.
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@Wylted
I suppose to restore your faith in him we could film a propaganda video of Virt kicking me in the ass on the way out, or mounting my head on a spike as he takes the Iron Throne. I only ask that my head be perfectly immortally preserved with my duckface Blue Steel expression.Really sad Castin had to remove herself instead of you making the correct decision
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If there had ever been any real intent to molest a minor, I would never in a million years have compared this to PC culture. That would be inexcusable.
Yet there was no intent. A 24-year-old merely made a dirty joke to someone he forgot was a couple of days from 17. He should've remembered, especially as a mod, but he made a mistake.
And sorry guys, but treating something done with no malicious intent with a level of outrage equal with real malicious intent does remind me of PC culture.
There really are sexual predators online trying to prey on minors, even as we speak, and I just think step one for us should always be separating the people who really intend to sexually exploit children from the people who don't intend to, and never did. All our outrage and protectiveness for the young and defenseless as a society should be reserved for those who are a real threat to the young and defenseless, or we're simply wasting steam on someone who was never our real enemy.
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@coal
So to clarify, Castin is no longer a moderator? If so, this would obviously be a step in the right direction
Lulz. Full disclosure, I was asked to be deputy, and then asked to stay on as recusal mod. I said no to both. It's me you should be thanking. http://gph.is/1PQa46P
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Recommended Virt dissolve the position of recusal mod. No need for me to stay.
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One ill-considered uncomfortable joke on a message board, made by someone who momentarily forgot the other person's age and didn't even have it consciously in mind when he made the joke, has been compared to literal and deliberate child abuse, predatory grooming, and real statutory rape. One bad joke. The age of legal consent has been invoked to dismiss the fact that the recipient of the remark was not offended, as if consenting to physical sex is the same as consenting to a dirty joke on a message board, or as if 17 is not old enough to be able to say a dirty joke didn't scar you for life. This has been a level of outrage that should only be reserved for people who actually intend to molest minors, yet at no point has there been any intent to molest any minors at all -- no intent to molest anyone. There has just been a bad joke. I have no problem seeing why it made anyone uncomfortable, but the sheer degree of the response was at least 60% about preexisting personal hate for bish.
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@Vader
PC Culture is toxic...extreme PC culture is inherently a violation of the 1st amendment
Don't forget silly, tribal, and overreactionary. Doesn't matter if the person you addressed wasn't offended, you still have to apologize to the whole world and everyone's feelings. The mob won't relent until you do.
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@Annie_ESocialBookworm
Given that the person he made the remark to said he was quite all right, and that no harm was done at all, I'm not sure who you expected him to apologize to. You, and all the other people who were offended? That is just not how it should work, and yet I see it working more and more like that in PC culture.This (post to gather pity) could have been avoided if you'd acknowledged your mistake and genuinely apologized. Your lack of remorse leaves me with a distaste and honestly, I used to like you so it's a pity you didn't mature over the years. I am sorry for kicking you while you are down (this is one way to apologize by the way) but I suggest you find some way to work on yourself to handle the responsibility of being a moderator and deal with the personal issues we have discussed privately that lead you to this point.
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@Vader
Aw. Yeah your fic premier kinda got destroyed by the drama train, didn't it. Once the sharks smelled blood, it was doomed.So u come here to talk diss on bsh, but not read my fanficshame shame
Well I'mma go over to the other thread and try to give you some actual fic feedback.
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@PressF4Respect
ROFLWell, in our hyper-PC culture I've been trying to live by the rule of never being more offended by a remark than the person the remark was actually made to. So, Press, you all good man?man? MAN!? HOW DARE YOU ASSUME MY GENDER!!!*SEETHES HEAVILY*I WOULD LIKE TO INFORM YOU THAT I IDENTIFY AS A GIANT SEQUOIA AND THAT MY PRONOUNS ARE IT/REEEEEEEEEEYOU HAVE JUST OFFENDED ME BEYOND ALL REPROACHTHIS IS UNACCEPTABLEYOU MUST STEP DOWN IMMEDIATELY FOR THIS INJUSTICE>:((#FEELINGSDONTCAREABOUTYOURFACTS
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@PressF4Respect
Well, in our hyper-PC culture I've been trying to live by the rule of never being more offended by a remark than the person the remark was actually made to. So, Press, you all good man?
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@PressF4Respect
Ha. Well, I'm at least 10% drama whore myself, so it would be at least 10% hypocritical of me to slam them too hard. I never set any fireworks off myself, but I have repeatedly been guilty of watching the fireworks with popcorn. I'm terrible.
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@bsh1
Come on. That pic is, like, objectively better. That is permanent upgrade material.
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@bsh1
You should totally change it to Rash's.
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@Mage-CPA
Is this level of drama normal on this website?
It's not uncommon. Some people get bored to tears if there's not some e-drama to get their blood racing, and when you have personalities like that on a forum you can expect them to regularly attempt to provoke drama.
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@Speedrace
Hey, welcome to the team. Don't really know you that well, but I'm gonna go ahead and nominate you for Moderator with Best Avatar.
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@ResurgetExFavilla
I've found it very interesting.
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@Dr.Franklin
*salute* Those were some damn slick moves, sir.ALSO if you need help with harikrish, just call me, ill take care of him, Right Castin?
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@Mharman
Do you really want to lose Virt as deputy over this? I get where you're coming from, but I still think he's a good guy and a good mod, and it would really be a shame to lose him over one slip-up. I'd rather be removed as mod than see Virt removed. He's much more valuable -- he brings a positive and supportive undercurrent to the primary mod team, he's likable and fair, he puts people at ease, and despite this last small error, I have always found his character to be trustworthy.
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@Liar
Fiend! Blasphemy. We all know Jesus was explicitly anti-robot-clone-army, it was the last thing he said to his disciples at the Last Supper.
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Launching a new troll enterprise, are we.
I must say, it's not your best work. Far too long, far too obvious.
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@Vader
Nah this is the side of bsh we all really want to see, SCANDALOUS
Can confirm.
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Surprised to see him back on DART radar. I thought he was quite done with us. Well, congrats and welcome back.
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What I like about the report is that I'm not in it at all.
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@RationalMadman
Interesting. So what exactly does it take to qualify as an "elite"? Being part of some shadowy, manipulative in-crowd? Is "elite" a putdown or a compliment of status? Do elites have to have DDO tenure?
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@Wylted
Ah, Wylted. When you're the one getting your rocks off at someone's expense, you're relentless and remorseless in your self-indulgence. Then you get one tiny taste of what it might be like to be on the receiving end, and suddenly you're all about seriousness and composure. Such shallow flip-flopping.
Not that I think you're 100% serious about all this or anything.
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@RationalMadman
Well by "can't force a meme" I meant can't force a new one. Obviously memes that already exist are much easier to carry off.
Just like Joe mama was easy to carry off. Bam.
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@Wylted
A deep-cover contact of mine (alias "Deep Flush") can get you a picture of the clogged toilet as evidence. I will send it to you. You will soon see the value of what I can contribute to this investigation.
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@Wylted
Castin has not been cleared of any involvement in the subject matter. If she wishes to assist the investigation, I would urge her to release all documents she has pertaining to the investigation, such as screenshots of PMs between herself and all suspects including but not limited to bsh1 7th theft, tyrone virtuoso and spacetime as well. as the hammer
I also heard that one time she pooped in a public toilet and it clogged but she just ran out like a coward.
I am certain if you just give me my investigator's license I can corner her. She's a slippery bitch.
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@RationalMadman
he forced a meme, eat your hat.
Now, now. Joe mama was already a meme, to be fair.
We just mounted it and took it for a ride like Joe mama did last night.
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