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Think Islam is a religion of peace? Think again.
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@keithprosser
If equivalently one-sided and bigoted commentary about jews, blacks or Canadians was posted there'd be a ruckus.  Islamophobia has become a socially acceptable form of xenophobia.  I can say 'muslims are murderous cretins' without risk of a ban, but if i said it about jews or black stat would be a different matter.   Of course I don't mean any criticis of jews or blacks by that... i am pointing out the normalisation of islamophobia.

The problem is that we in the west are woefully ignorant of Islam so the egregious bias of writers such as Richardson and his hero bill warner are not as obvious as it would be if they were misrepresenting more familiar stuff. 

So if you do read the linked pdf, remember it is written by a hostile witness who wants to inflame and spread anti-isamic feelngs, not give a sober overview of Islam as it is practiced by a billion non-terrorists in a wide variety of cultures across the world.   But if all you want is to have your semi-informed prejudice about Islam confirmed it's probably perfect.
What if the title was "Think Christianity is a religion of peace? Think again", and all the following posts had been targeted at Christianity.
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@janesix
I have started my meditation practice again. It has been a few years. I am hoping to get to a state of consciousness where I can reach God. 
I hope you find what you're looking for, jane.

What's your usual routine? I find I have to put on headphones and play some kind of steady repetitive noise to really lull myself into a more trancelike state, and then I can begin to meditate, because in complete silence it's a lot harder for me to pull it off. But I'm a beginner.

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I publicly challenge RationalMadman to a debate
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@SamStevens
He got himself banned so it didn't look like he was scared to accept it.
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@Mharman
It's more scared of you than you are scared of it.
Wait the spider or Poly

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@Goldtop
That's what a recusal mod is by definition, Gold -- someone who is going to decide the fate of some members but not others. Someone who is not part of the normal mod squad. That would make me just a full time mod, with actual direct mod powers, by which I mean actual access to the mod CP and a crown by my name. You're basically asking me to be another Virt or something, which obviously can't happen.

bish saying "I wasn't the judge on that case, ask Castin" is no different than me saying "I'm not the judge in RM's case, ask bish". I didn't put it quite like that, but the sentiment was basically the same. And honestly, what kind of weak ass mod can't stand on their own to explain or defend their own judgment, anyway?

you'll just end up burdening yourself with those growing pains and will most likely leave the site as a result, and we wouldn't want to see someone like you leave this forum.
Ah you'll live.

I've heard the complaints, but the problem remains the same, that there is someone in charge that has no experience moderating forums, hence the entire forum has to suffer while that person gets up to speed.
Eh, I have moderation experience, if it matters. I don't think it really does, as I can't exactly produce credentials or anything, and bish, Virt, and Mike just based their decision on their experience with me over a period of months, not by demanding that I submit a resume.

I know where you're coming from, but even for greenhorns, experience has to begin somewhere, and most people on the internet don't have mod experience. Meaning it's likely that many good candidates won't either. They'll only appoint mods they have reason to be confident in, but when it comes to experience, you live and learn. That's how life works. I'd say a private recreational internet forum is actually a pretty ideal place to practice some management and people skills, because it's relatively harmless. This isn't a 747 we're flying as your pilots. It's enough that the mods have good intentions, care about the community, and try to course correct and do better.

Can we then assume the mods are going to be more laissez-faire, as you say? If that's the case, then no one here is going to have any idea what they can say and what they can't say and the mods are going to moderate, how exactly?
Avoid personal attacks, especially repeated ones, and you'll generally be fine. It's the most important rule in your day-to-day because it's always true and it's the one people seem to violate the most often. But yeah as far as I'm aware moderation has been generally broad, not exhaustively specific, about what "more laissez-faire" means. Fair point.

If you as a member of this forum decided that you're not going to report such things like what RM said, then you become part of the problem. That would also facilitate that you immediately step down from having any contributions to the mod team.

So, now you're going on hurting the feelings of other users if you decide to report in infraction? Seriously? Yeah, you need to step away from the mod team immediately. If you can't handle any of that, you shouldn't be doing it at all. No offense.
Sure, take this appeal to Mike, bish, or Virt, or better yet all three, and explain your complaint and these arguments. Srsly, if they ever thought I should step down I'd do it with zero fuss and zero hard feelings.

Btw, now that I've directed you to their doorstep, when you take your complaint to them could you give them a message from me. "Sent you a special present. For your enjoyment. Love and kisses, Cas."

But it's weird how when authority listens to your protests they're always just doing the correct thing, but when they listen to the other side's protests they're always just cwying over hurt feewings. (That was a general "your", by the way.)

Not sure if you noticed, but RM is in a constant state of being threatened and hostile. It's all in his imagination of course, but that's something the mod team and this forum are going to have to constantly deal with moving forward. It's a classic case of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Gold, in my time here and on DDO, I have honestly heard as many complaints about you as I have Rash. And a lot of what you're saying here sounds similar to what I've heard. Why is he even allowed here? He is constantly abusive, why do they let him back? What kind of mods run that place? Sorry man, but if your behavior remains consistent with the worst in your past, there's a good chance it will be something moderation has to constantly deal with moving forward, too. I'm not saying you're Rash, but I am saying that like Rash I consider you a controversial member who I will welcome back and give basic respect to after you've done your fair time.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Deb, thank you for always being the refreshing voice of clarity and reason in these contentious times. It's like you come in and flip the light switch on, and we are all suddenly bathed in the pure, singular light of rational lucidity -- the Truth is stripped naked before all.

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All walls of text and no play makes Cas a dull girl.
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Episode X: The Interrogation
Pfft, fuck censorship.
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@ResurgetExFavilla
Look I don't care how much your little spider believes in gay rights I am never warming up to spiders. There is a rift between us that cannot be bridged.

That goes for sea spiders too. They're fucking weird.

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I turned this entire room upside down and was about to srsly lose it when I finally found that little shit clinging to the inside of the window shade. I had lifted the shade to check if he was on the window and didn't see him because ofc he wasn't on the window, he decided he had to be ninja.


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@ResurgetExFavilla
He had soulless demonic serial killer eyes from hell like all spiders. They eat souls. They are soul eaters. The original unedited version of Charlotte's Web ended with the shriveled up husk of Wilbur's body staring upward with empty eyes as Charlotte carefully sucks out his soul to feed to her demonic spawn. And she laughs cruelly and says "What did you think was going to happen, Wilbur?" Then a bunch of PTA moms got ahold of the script and decided it needed to be more kid friendly.
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@Swagnarok
I don't think RM can help it if he has Histrionic Personality Disorder.
I don't think he can help the way he's wired, either. Not that many of us can. I don't know if he was ever diagnosed with that disorder in particular.

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What Did RM Do This Time?
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@Vader
Lol does anyone what it is?
You do not notice a spinny icon. You suspect you imagined it. It no longer seems important. You feel a sense of wellbeing and unconcern.
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Do you consider your religion's rules to apply to your online behavior here?
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@Deb-8-a-bull
I meant watching them, not doing them.

I have no idea why but you just strike me as someone who would like Rash and Supa's rap battles.

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@Goldtop
Here's your reply Gold. It's too long because I was interrupted before I could condense it and now I couldn't concentrate on it to save my motherfucking life. Shit shit shit.

Okay, as a member of the forum and of the mod team, have you reported it?
Nopers. You have heard all the complaints that we aren't being laissez-faire enough right. I don't know, wonder what would happen if it came out that mods were running around reporting stuff even if no members had felt any need to report it. Those damn oppressive control freak mods, poking their noses in everyone's business, always trying to catch people doing stuff they didn't even do. Nah, unless it's threats or doxxing, I'm gonna try to leave it up to members for now, in the spirit of laissez-faire.

You have to remember that there will always be users like Outplayz, or possibly thett or Resurge, who won't think even something like what Rash said merits a report, and who would probably be kinda angry if a mod butted in and reported it. If I can avoid that, I'd prefer to.

That's a very strong argument to have him banned again, considering it was only two days and he learned nothing from it. Clearly, he cares less of what the mods think and is abusing their position and yours. Ethan and I were both banned a week for far less than what RM has posted here, time and again.
I wish I could tell you more about this. I just don't have insider details about all the factors that went into the punishments for those cases. But there's a good chance there was context about them that you weren't aware of.

Yet, Bsh threw you under the bus when he was asked about Wylted's ban, he said to talk with Castin. I think you also came onboard that thread with an explanation, citing that Wylted crossed the line... in fact, you then said this to RM...
That's not really throwing me under the bus, is it? I made the call, so I had to explain it. And if necessary, defend it. He couldn't answer for me. He was actually the offended party in that case.

I have no authority over RM. I don't get to decide what to do with him. It's not my job to even contemplate the question, strictly speaking. The mods haven't recused themselves from him that I'm aware of. So it's their business and Rash's business.

I would suspect that armed with all this you would want to remain consistent in your moderation and immediately take it to your mod team and seriously discuss what should be done, don't you think?
Y'know, I don't think that's a bad point. It would probably be a good time to organize and get our affairs in order. We haven't really done that since my appointment. I've been kind of hesitant because the whole point of my position is to maintain distance from the more intimate dealings of the mods. I shouldn't be involved very much in their affairs until they need me for a recusal case. But a degree of coordination is still desirable, and consistency is important. Hopefully it won't inflame accusations that I am now a fully fledged assimilated member of the mod clique cabal.

And, as you already know, Castin, RM makes it clear his intentions and motivations by his response to you...

Lol? I couldn't care less tbph.
Do you actually believe this guy is going to change anything? All the mod team is doing is prolonging the inevitable, but not doing it in a timely manner, thus allowing RM to continue his barrage of hateful threats. He seriously does not care, you know that, right?
I actually don't know that, no. I do know that when he feels threatened and hostile he can enter define periods of "fuck you all I don't care, burn this place down". Outside of those periods, though, he actually often expresses that he cares about the site quite a lot.


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Fuck. I had to stop because I saw a big spider and now I can't find it. Now this whole fucking room is unsafe.
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@Goldtop
Phew. This is gonna be a long one. Hope I get everything.
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@keithprosser
Never mind.  Cheer your self up - get someone banned.
Why would I do that. It'd make me feel horrible. ☹️

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@Zeichen
I’d contend that telling me to kill myself was the worst thing I’ve witnessed him say. 
Kinda fuzzy. Did this happen just a few weeks after the site went up, when Mike was the only "moderator" so to speak.


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Do you consider your religion's rules to apply to your online behavior here?
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@Deb-8-a-bull
I'm a anti-theist on a computer.
Agnostic in real life. ( but rarely admit to it ) 
A wannabe atheist. 
I think a agnostic atheist means your agnostic.
if someone ask me personally, i say Im a atheist.
Oh And i also collect stamps.
See I think agnostic atheist means I'm atheist.

Hey Deb do you like rap battles?

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@RationalMadman
People are fickle.

But would you really want the mods to make a public spectacle of you by broadcasting it like a trial, instead of privately discussing the matter and then making a decision? Whatever else you may think of bish, I give my sincere testimony -- whatever that's worth to anyone, which is probably nothing -- that he takes member privacy very seriously. You guys probably don't know just how seriously.

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Are the Nephilim giants, fallen angels, or human/angel hybrids?
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@RationalMadman
I mean do you actually want to know or just asking? 
Well I'm asking what they are within the Bible.

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@Goldtop
I read where you explained why Wylted was banned, yet RM seems to go unabated with his vile posts. Why is it RM is allowed to post his hateful disgusting remarks yet others get banned for far less? ... I think you need to talk with the other mods and get RM straightened out, don't ya think?
As I think I told you yesterday, only posts that are reported get moderated (within reason). In any case where you see someone seemingly getting away with something another person seemingly did not, the first thing you should ask is whether it was reported in both cases or only one of them.

But in this case, I believe RM was banned for 48 hours just a few days ago, so one can't really say he never gets a smack. For all I know Virt and bish could be talking about it right now. Or about someone else you think gets too much slack. They do their mod business in private, very discreet, privacy and so on.

Me, I'd rather tell every fucking detail to people as soon as they ask me. I'd rather turn the whole goddamn evidence box upside down and let all the crime scene evidence and bloody murder weapons and DNA samples fall out in front of everyone in a great big dirty pile, so I can point and say, "LOOK. Look at all the reasons I am not Hitler. LOOK AT THEM."
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@RationalMadman
I was fairly certain he didn't yet have children, so my example was very open to preventing him going down the path he was going.
Oh. I assumed you knew he was a father or something. Guess that's not quite as bad. Still though.

Context, read what I said. I didn't threaten his kids or say something against them.
I know.

I cannot unsay it firstly, and I did not suggest any details of his abuse of his children. I said he is going to berate them repeatedly and if they're sensitive, god help them. If he wants to hide behind a pseudonym to freely abuse me, I shall use my pseudonym to make extreme examples.

If this was real names attached, I would just block the guy long ago and that means I don't have to read his shit as social media platforms block properly.
"He is going to berate them repeatedly and if they're sensitive, god help them" would've been fine imo.
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@RationalMadman
Rash, no matter how angry I was at someone or how harsh they were being on me, I would never go after their family and say "your kids will commit suicide". That's crossing a line.

I think the fact that you're being ganged up on here is making you feel like you have to be extra vicious if you want to survive this fight. I can definitely understand that, but it's not true -- you'll survive no matter what. You don't need to poison your dagger.
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What the fuck. Rash, that was seriously the worst thing I've ever heard you say.
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@KingLaddy01
I see the fault in what I said. I had purportedly implied that autistic people have no empathy. They certainly have empathy, but it may only be felt for a select few. Just to be clear, empathy doesn't mean liking somebody, but being able to put yourself in somebody's shoes, even if you think little of that person.

There are also periods of time, or "fits" where they seem to have very little regard of the other person and how their decisions may affect them. I have known some people who were physical with their fits, although only one of them I knew was high functioning. Again, this isn't to denounce them to any degree, or state that all autistic people have no empathy. It's to identify a common problem in autism that I notice in the user in question during certain periods of time.
I've had similar experiences where I witnessed those "fits". When they get really bad, it can be pretty frustrating. You want to yell "how can you be so self-centered?" but you know it's not their fault and you need to be patient.

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@keithprosser
Quite right, sadly.
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Are the Nephilim giants, fallen angels, or human/angel hybrids?
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@RationalMadman
What do flat Earthers have to do with nephilim, then? I thought flat Earth was a theory about Earth's shape, not a religious worldview.
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@keithprosser
A complete answer to that would probably require a four dimensional map of spacetime.

I think you need to feel like you're a part of something bigger than yourself, whether it be God, humanity, science, or the grandeur of the cosmos itself. Otherwise things start looking pretty grim.

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Are the Nephilim giants, fallen angels, or human/angel hybrids?
I always understood it to be the last one: the product of a union between an angel and a human. Obviously the most interesting of the three as well, imo.

But I've recently been reminded that the Bible also refers to nephilim as "giants", and that the original Hebrew word, nefilim, apparently means "the fallen ones".

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@Tejretics
This went well.
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@KingLaddy01
I was only describing a commonly understood flaw that autistic people can harbor. The intent wasn't to say that all autistic people are as problematic as RM (Most certainly are not), but it does explain the core of his problem. The main issue is a total lack of empathy, at least for periods of time.

I have met quite a few autistic people before. One is a brother of a great friend of mine and I respect him because he is very cordial. I have met another one that I couldn't stand because he would get physical about his problems. 

I understand this, they have just as much of an identity as anyone does, and autistic people don't all fit under one clear description. Some are better than others at communication, controlling rage, and learning in general. I believe that the spectrum is more of a circle than a bar, because it comes in many varieties.
He's actually pretty empathetic imo. Generally speaking. Have you seen how fiercely he defends some people when he perceives them to be bullied or victimized? I mean if anything he feels too much for them. But obviously, few people are likely to empathize with the person they're fighting with in the heat of an argument. (In case this detail is bothering you btw, I do realize you only suggested he lacks empathy for periods of time.)

But maybe you were referring to like emotional reciprocity? Or a lack of recognition that one should not commit the same behaviors one does not tolerate in others? Or something? Idk. I can't remember how the experts put it when I was reading up on Asperger's, and I know that shit I just gave was inaccurate.
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You have to believe that something beyond your own life, your own experiences, and your own cognition matters.

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Indeed, bish did not make the decision there.
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@thett3
castin legitimately does have a thick skin. or if she doesn’t she knows how to put it aside when being a mod because she never really seems to rise to the bait. While I think her moderation style is way too heavy handed, I respect that aspect of personality
Was already that way, pre-modhood. Almost nothing about me changed when I became a mod. That would've been responsible.

Too lenient, too heavy-handed. I've gotten both remarks. If I had to choose, I admit I'd rather the former be true than the latter.

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@KingLaddy01
Look man, I know you mean well and you seem like a rad dude, but I am not entirely sure you are informed of everything. That said, you are entitled to what you believe and you should like whoever you please. 

I don't mean to denounce your contribution either or sound like a jerk, so prove me wrong if I am. I just don't think it's warranted here given the context of this little debate.
I was responding to the term "universal nuisance", beyond the context of this thread. Really should've made that clearer. My bad.

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C'mon guys. Don't need no hateration holleration in this dancerie. Let loose and set your bodies free. Leave yo' situations at the door and when you step inside jump on the floor.
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Rash is not a nuisance to me.
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@RationalMadman
Yes and I would be the best one and he hates it.

Ramshutu is also a very self-assured guy who he knows he can't tame that well. This is why bsh1 is at a loss.
You wouldn't mind having to go through so many votes picking over details and making judgment calls that malcontented voters would never let you hear the end of? You're made of stronger stuff than me, man.
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@RationalMadman
I don't get it. Unless you made a claim that his post humiliated me, there's no "gotcha" here. And you didn't make that claim.
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@thett3
How is it owned? He never said I found your post humiliating.
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@thett3
Nah, I'm cool with it. Bash away, old chap.
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@RationalMadman
I think they really need another vote mod, as bish said. And ASAP.
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@DebateArt.com
Team debates?
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@Mharman
Weird.
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@blamonkey
In this context, I was interpreting "selfishness" as "selfishness at the expense of others, or of the common good".
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@RationalMadman
All right, man. I was just saying I know bans can embitter a person.

This isn't the first time someone has said I was being too lenient, and I expect it won't be the last. But I don't think Wyl did anything that deserved a permaban.

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@DebateArt.com
I am thinking about simply adding ads at some point, it seems like the only way after all, since nobody wants to donate anyway. And it won't be done for the sake of having personal income, just in order to cover the expenses on this site. I work on it most of my free time and people can't help me to find 30$ per month, which is almost my daily salary, that's just discouraging, if to be honest.
Right now we're a small and isolated community with relatively low activity, so it may not be realistic to expect much in the way of donations at present. Try not to let it get you down too much. I like the site and I'm willing to be patient. 🙂

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@Wylted
Certainly true. But there is a level of conspiracy, suspicion, and intricacy that I find a bit hard to believe of an online forum.

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