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@Wylted
People do seem to keep telling me there are conspiracies and hidden manipulations going on around me that I have no knowledge of. Or something.It's not that easy. Politics and all. You still only think one level deep. Think 2 levels deep and work your way down to 3 or 4 levels deep. Thinking too much about a situation and going deeper can be a bit problematic. But 3 or 4 levels is good. 6 levels take you to things like "Roku's Basalisk" and are useless. I can't avoid thinking on those levels because of mental illness, but it is best avoided to remain practical.
No. Hence the "I'd rather he just tell me" bit. As in I'd rather it be pointed out, learn from it, try to do better, etc.As a general rule of thumb, you start out as incompetent at most things you do. So would you really quit just because you start out in the same spot most people would?
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@RationalMadman
I think it would be understandable for Wyl to have as poor an opinion of the mod who banned him as you do of the mod who banned you, Rash.
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@Wylted
Sorry about that. Sent a PM to the mods. They should see to it soon.Actually I can't show you. I'm still banned from voting. Please fix that
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@Wylted
Makes sense.Because if their subordinates figure out the truth, they'll lose respect and have a harder time doing their job. They need confidence and to not second guess themselves also to perform their best.
But if bish ever thought I was being incompetent, I'd rather he just tell me or replace me, rather than lie to me and say I was doing a good job. No point in that.
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@Wylted
Why do you tell them they're competent?
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@Wylted
Definitely would be interested to see. Wouldn't have thought a chart was something you could quickly jot down, like notes.I summarize and write down every single point. I do a type of chart. I'll vote on one soon and take a picture of my nores maybe.
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@bsh1
We can take it. 😈 I think it's about time other mods like myself started taking the kind of heat you do, anyway. We don't seem to be personally criticized near as often or as strongly. You shouldn't have to be in the fire alone, I reckon. I should take a turn in the frontlines.
Well. I guess I shouldn't speak for Tej and Virt like that.
Did you see thett has listed you and I as married. Wtf happened here. Did we get drunk in Vegas? Was I wearing a false mustache for some reason?
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@Wylted
Yeah, this is what I'll do. Do you ever take notes? Jot down the syllogisms?Forfeited debates are just conduct points. As far as walls of text are concerned just try to formalise the arguments ingo syllogisms (for example) to retain the arguments better and go from there.Â
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@Vader
Memes are hard to force, tho. They just happen when they happen. What's to be done?
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@Vader
We need to start cooking up some original DART memes too, or we shall never attain the heights of epicness.
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Anyone can be judgmental. It's a human thing, not a religious thing. Obviously there are a fuck ton of judgmental atheists in the world.
If a judgmental atheist accuses a theist of being judgmental, that atheist is being a hypocrite, yes.
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@Tejretics
I have no idea why jotting notes hasn't occurred to me before now. *blinks*
Can I ask why you disagree with the CoC's definition of an FF? You've got me curious.
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@Mopac
I've definitely observed that effort from you, Mo.
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@Mopac
😄 Sure, I'll fetch my trephine and get to trepanning.
Man, was that not a horrific practice?
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@bsh1
😄 Yeah I get ya. But is it not the most refreshing mod complaint you've heard in about ten billion years.
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@bsh1
I'm starting to think bsh1 is the o ly competent mod.
Mark the date, bish. This is a turning point in history. Can you not feel it through the Force?
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@Vader
Oui, mon capitaine.Nah keep it like that
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@disgusted
But he does have his book. And for him there's a sticker on it that says "start here". It sounded to me like he was just saying you and he begin from different premises.Without his book he has no start.
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@Goldtop
Well, you have to keep in mind that my discussions with ethan were never toxic, obviously. He always treated me nicely and I always appreciated it. I'm aware I didn't experience the same side of him that some others did.
I'm starting to feel bad discussing a guy who isn't here. This has to be one of the worst things about being banned, brings me a definite pang of sympathy -- knowing everyone is talking about you while you're banned, even watching them talk about you, and being powerless to respond or defend yourself.
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I don't pretend that I've never experienced spiritual emptiness or a feeling of seeking something I felt was missing or unanswered.
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@Goldtop
I see her posts, Gold. Trust me. 😔 But they seem to be rarely reported. People have been complaining pretty intensely about the mods over-moderating and sticking their noses into business no one asked them to interfere with, so I'm not surprised they haven't come down hard on posts no one reported. They'd probably get flak for it.
And keep in mind I don't have any authority over Poly. I only have jurisdiction over members or cases the mods recuse themselves from. Otherwise, I'm basically just another member. And I prefer it that way tbh. I don't want, and imo should not have, power over anyone I have not been called to moderate.
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@bsh1
Liked the element of the repeating line, reinforced it in my head. I always like raps that have something like a chorus or hook that repeats, rather than non-repeating free flow. Though I realize in a one-on-one rap battle that's the standard.
I see it in your eyes, got invidiaAt least I'm not like you, no chlamydiaÂ
^ Lol epic. Favorite line.
In general I would've liked to see a slightly more balanced ratio between sexual and nonsexual slams, but that's more of a qualm I have with the medium in general. Sexual dominance slams are just how it's done, but still, I treasure clever nonsexual slams.
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@RationalMadman
+1I agree to the word being wrong but I see the joy it brings to many people who for many months of the year have no real family time. I respect the occasion for the family time. Even to Pagans, family is sacred unless they abused you.
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@disgusted
Why was it meaningless?Meaningless even if succinct.
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@rosends
Succinct, my friend.If you start with that then you end with that. I start elsewhere so I end elsewhere.
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@Analgesic.Spectre
Ah that makes more sense, thx.I'm 20.
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@spacetime
Ha, that's me all right. Definite internet addict, right here.
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@Mharman
I'm too lazy to ever debate anyone. Plus now that I'm a recusal mod I think there's an extra reason to not participate in debates.
Don't let me shit you though, it's mostly the lazy thing. And probably general commitment issues. I don't even like people pouring me a too-big bowl of cereal. "Thank you very much but I DID NOT COMMIT TO THAT."
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Okay all insults or criticisms on this forum that are not delivered in rap form are now weak and lame as shit to me.
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@Vader
Your profile pictures looks cool
Ah thank you.
I was thinkin' about changing it back to Stuff I Say, though. The thumbnail is kinda hard to make out.
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@Goldtop
could be quite interesting, his presence as a strong theist and conservative personalityUhhhhh... oookkkaaayyy...*shakes head in utter confusion*
Haven't you ever had someone you disagreed with on many things, but you liked being exposed to the dissent and opposition?
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@nmvarco
Click on their profile. Under their pic click "accept friend request".
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@PGA2.0
I must agree, it's a lovely description of love (that I certainly sometimes fail to live up to). I also like Mark 8:36 and 1 John 4:8.
So -- and sorry to keep questioning you in further detail, it's a subject I find interesting -- let's say you had lived as a contemporary of Joan of Arc, a devout Christian who claimed that God spoke to her, telling her it was his will that she help lead France to victory against England. Judging her claim against the "blueprint" of the Bible, would you have believed her?
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@Goldtop
I know he was a controversial member, but most of the people I saw him attack were controversial members themselves, to put it lightly. But I'll miss his posts which could be quite interesting, his presence as a strong theist and conservative personality, because I like hearing a strong voice from the other side, the times we joked around, and the discussions we had.
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@Plisken
@rosends
Thanks for your answers, guys. So do you think it's possible to commit sin in online posts?
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My religion isn't about anyone's feeling but the gods. Why does anyone here think they would matter enough to effect my religious practice.Â
I don't.
Is caring for the feelings of others among the feelings your gods have? Or are they indifferent to the way others feel?
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@janesix
That's true, and I agree. But I see a lot of eye rolling directed at "hurt feelings because of words on screens". And this general attitude that what is said in text online lacks realness or legitimacy.
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I'm curious. I mean, we're just typing a bunch of words on a screen. It's not the same as your real life actions. Or talking to someone face to face.
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@ResurgetExFavilla
I find the most effective ways for me are contemplative prayers like the rosary, or lectio divina. The Holy Rosary is a meditative prayer, wherein you repeat the Hail Mary, the Lord's Prayer, the Apostle's Creed, the doxology, etc. That's usually all that non-Catholics see of the Rosary, and all that they think it is: repetition. But the heart of the Rosary, what gives it is power as a prayer, are the Mysteries, and they are invisible to most observers. Each day you pray five decades, and through each decade you meditate on one of five mysteries, using the prayer as a way to focus. Examples of subjects for mediation are the visitation in the garden, the proclamation of the Kingdom, the Annunciation, the Crucifixion, the scourging at the pillar, the crowning with thorns, the descent of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost, etc. All of these have a 'lesson' or 'virtue' meant to be gleaned: the scouring reminds us not to commit sins of the flesh, the crowning with thorns warns us against pride, the visitation speaks of love for neighbor, the resurrection of hope.Lectio Divina is a form of sacred reading perfected by the Carthusian Monks. They are an ancient group of communal hermits, who give up all worldly possessions and almost all contact with the outside world. They practice an extreme form of humility, being buried almost anonymously, and spending most of their life in their 'cell', a small, very simple home with an attached walled garden. Here they work enough to support themselves and study, joining with their brothers only for mass and walks through the woods or mountains. Lectio divina is their process of reading which regards the Bible as the Living Word, and is less focused on a theological parsing as it is on a confrontation of God within the Word. It has four steps. The first is to simply prepare yourself through a small meditation, and to read the passage. The second is to meditate on what was read, which is less about thinking about the passage than it is letting the true meaning of it seep into your marrow. After that comes prayer, which is the conversation part, and then the part where God 'speaks back' is the final stage, Contemplation. This is where the profound encounter with God occurs, and it really is a profound experience that can't be communicated well in words. Just imagine that anything good or beautiful in life is a reflection of God, and that to be in a state of contemplation is to see all of those pieces with perfect, utter clarity for a few moments.
Wow. This was pretty fascinating. Surprised I hadn't heard about the Carthusians. Also I really wouldn't have pegged you as Catholic leaning.
So when you meditate upon the rosary and the Mysteries, do you feel a sense of talking to God? From your description, it sounds like what you're connecting with are God's lessons and teachings. Is that the same as communicating directly with God to you? Is there ever a conversation going on, where you say something and he says something back?
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@Mopac
We Orthodox pray that they find their way to Orthodoxy.
Lol. I know so many Protestants that would drive nuts.
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@thett3
flame wars are objectively good for online forums
If you don't make a thread or debate with this title you will literally be canceling Christmas for me.
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@Analgesic.Spectre
Huh. I was actually getting a younger vibe from you. I mean, not like 16, but I don't know, mid 20's to mid 30's.
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@Vader
I mean, doesn't selfishness have something to do with most of humanity's problems?
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@keithprosser
That's being a tad fatalistic, keith. I mean, it's not that bad.
I never really fell in love with Capaldi's Doctor either. His seasons were just all right.
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@Mopac
Well I'm an outsider obviously, so you'll have to make some allowances for me. Well, you won't "have to", but it would be cool if you did.
But it looks like quite a good point that it was the nascent church that originally compiled the New Testament.
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@PGA2.0
So does that mean you sometimes doubt even the accounts of God reported by some of your fellow Christians?
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@RationalMadman
Lol. Okay. :)
I think Virt does a fine job though.
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