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From a progressive/socialist POV, I believe the Obama administration was an utter failure and a total disgrace to the country. Obama expanded the unconstitutional surveillance state and expanded NDAA, started illegal wars in Libya in Syria, failed to reign in big banks and the thugs who trashed the economy, droned a wedding and hospital that killed innocent children, assassinated an innocent 16-year old with his father, failed to reign in mass incarceration, utterly failed with Obamacare, and up till the Trump administration was the "deporter in chief."
If we want to move the country to the left, we need to be intellectually honest with the Obama administration. If Obama were a white Republican and did all those things, Democrats would have impeached him and would have marched through the streets to oppose his illegal wars.
Republicans by and large stayed silent on these issues because they supported Obama's most evil policies. Instead they focused on "phony scandals" such as Benghazi.
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@Greyparrot
indeed it is. Now if only we can get rid of Trump
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@Analgesic.Spectre
@RationalMadman
Restraining order please. Stop communicating with each other and replying to each other’s post
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I’ll answer when I get off work.
Truth be told im not really having that much fun this game. Mod spewing information plus a dead cop doesn’t really give me that much motivation to play.
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@1harderthanyouthink
im working. You’re a bloody moron if you think I’m a wolf
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I agree with pretty much everything imabench said
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Fair enough. I already offered to help out One super admin would help assist in content management (ie back end stuff) and also oversee the moderator team
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First I think mods need to handle disputes in private. Huge flame wars like what is going on now shouldn’t be acceptable. If you have a problem with someone bring it privately to a moderator.
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@Buddamoose
It bothers me that you have more posts now 😤
Budda, please do us a favor and stay out of the game. Mod spewing information just ruins and hurts game integrity....this information kinda spews his alignment.
(also as a sidebar note, Rational should be punished for editing posts).
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@triangle.128k
Also, do you believe there was a "divine role" in the situation which Israel and the Jews have faced throughout history?For a while, they were unusually oppressed and despised by powerful empires after their freeing from Babylon: Persians, Greeks, Romans, Caliphates/Arabs, Crusaders, Ottomans, etc.What would be your explanation for this? Thoughts by some Christians have suggested that the oppression of Israel and the Jews were based upon their failure to align with God's will.
The oppression of Israel and the exile are a result of disobedience to the commandments. Deuteronomy 28 talks about the blessings and the curses that will come if we obey or disobey the Torah.
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@triangle.128k
What is your opinion on the state of Israel, and the rights of Palestinians/Muslims/Christians in the land?What's your rationale for rejecting Jesus as the messiah?Can anybody become Jewish, or is it tied with ethnicity?
1) I have mixed feelings on the State of Israel. My personal view is that there needs to be a two state solution with mutual respect and recognition of each other. Israel needs to guarantee the rights of non-Jewish and non-Orthodox Jewish citizens. Israel also needs to stop building illegal settlements.
2) Jesus is not the Messiah because he failed to usher in the messianic era and did not fulfill one prophecy. Jesus claimed to be God, which is utter blasphemy
3) Anyone can become Jewish via the conversion process
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Except we’re in MyLo. If we lynch today we are almost guaranteed to lose
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Why on earth would a green dying be helpful to town?
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@1harderthanyouthink
theres a fundamental difference between saying “Player X is online and active elsewhere except for here and thus he’s probably scum” vs lynching within the no posters.
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@Buddamoose
I really think you should stay out of the game and not only answer questions privately. Mod spewing information can harm game integrity.
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@RationalMadman
I absolutely agree with this. OGI should never be allowed and is a modkillable offense on MU
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@RationalMadman
It means that a player can forgo their night actions. If wolves don't want to kill, they don't have to
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@Buddamoose
I unvoted earlier. But in case that wasn't clear
Unvote
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I'm so used to playing on MU that I'm still kinda in that mindset. On MU the wolves are forced to kill each night. If they fail to submit an action, a random townie is killed.
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Wait hold on a sec
Doctor- Can protect one player a night from death.(Can protect self)
Doctor should out himself. We have a confirmed town and he'll just protect himself till the endgame.
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Tin foil hat theory: XLAV is scum with RM and is attempting an early bus.
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@XLAV
I have him as null right now. Would like to hear more from him.
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@XLAV
Explain
I found RM's entrance to be rather weird. Sheeping my NL vote, won't say why until tomorrow, and seemingly knows he'll still be alive.
Also
Unvote
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@XLAV
btw everyone Virt is practically confirmed town. Besides the lack of knowledge of the night kill, his interaction with Budda sealed the deal.
I'll have more to say about this in post game, but the bolded is exactly why the mod needs to not interact with players in the game thread aside from vote counts and flips.
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@Buddamoose
Was the Oral Torah developed in unison with the written, or post?
As explained above, the Oral Torah was given with the Torah. Obviously the Oral Torah has developed over the past several thousand years. There are basically two types of halachic laws; D'orata (Laws from the Torah) and d'rabbanan (laws given by the Rabbis/prophets). Halacha LeMoshe MiSinai (the laws of Moshe from Sinai), are halachic tradition whose source is not from a verse or from an interpretation of a verse, but rather was transmitted orally by G-d to Moses.
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@Castin
Isn't there great potential for distortion, re-imagining, and human error in oral traditions? How do you know the teachings of these traditions are the word of God if it doesn't say so in a written document regarded as holy?P.S. Your profile picture looks familiar to me for some reason. Is it from something I might have seen or read?
My profile picture is Rebbe Menachem Mendel Schneerson, the Holy Lubavitcher Rebbe.
Jews believe that the Torah and the Oral Torah were given by God at Har Sinai. Eventually the Oral Torah was codified and written down in fear of it being lost in the exile.
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@Swagnarok
-Is Sheol in Judaism equivalent to Hell in Christianity?-What is the purpose of man? For what was he created?-Is there an end of days in Judaism? Or do Jews merely look forward to the eternal continued existence of the nation of Israel? Do Jews believe that their nation is destined to one day assume some kind of superpower status? Do Jews believe that eventually the rest of the world shall look to their success and adopt their faith in G-d?-What is the orthodox Jewish position on the Messiah?-How would Judaism handle modern issues with no equivalent in the Torah? Can the writings of, say, Isaiah be used to help establish precedent? Or is the Mosaic Law the only thing that can be reliably drawn upon? Are there books in the Christian Old Testament that are no longer considered canon in mainstream Judaism today?
1) The afterlife really is not that well developed in Judaism. Sheol is basically the grave. Jews believe in Gehenna, which is more akin to the Catholic purgatory than to the Christian version of hell.
2) Shlomo HaMelech (King Solomon) wrote in Sefer Kohtelet: "Ultimately, all is known; fear G–d, and observe His commandments; for this is the whole purpose of man."
3) The end of days in Judaism is the messianic era. When the (real) Messiah comes, he will setup an earthly kingdom in Eretz Israel, gather the entire Jewish people to Israel, rebuild the temple, establish world peace, and the whole earth shall know Hashem is God.
4) See above. He's a righteous king. He's a human who is a direct descendant of King David through Solomon.
5) Excellent question! There's a whole body of literature dedicated to contemporary halachic issues. You can view part of it of it here.
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@Buddamoose
Thinking through some scenarios
no lynch with doctor dies = we’re fucked
no lynch with doc save = two confirm town
lynch a townie = probably lost
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@Buddamoose
ive never played on EM. I can see this setup being swingy one way or the other. 7 player games are notoriously hard to balance.
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Wtf? Didn’t realize scum had a N0 kill. I’ve played games where the cop had a N0 peek, but never when scum gets a kill.
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VTL No Lynch
this is mechanically the correct play. We should just play follow the cop. The cop puts himself and the doctor stays hidden and protects him each night. We only lynch if there’s a guilty.
The cop cop shouldn’t announce their innnocent until they have to.
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@daytonanerd
I am a conservative Jew officially, but currently attend a reform temple and kinda am more observing reform than conservative.
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@RationalMadman
Link doesn't work. It goes back to the homepage. The debate must have been deleted.
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Only Love by Jordan Smith (best new song)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO83fJfpkdg
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@RationalMadman
Agreed. I'd like to see a bit more analysis from drafterman's vote.
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