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@Vader
Hopefully I will actually get a chance to implement something like that :)
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@Vader
Sure, but don't thank me too early, it may take a long time ... It's just me and a huge pile of things to implement.
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@Vader
I will add it to the list then :) Can't promise anything regarding the time limits though, I pick tasks randomly depending on how interesting they seem to implement.
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@Mharman
I have no idea what PM system edeb8 had, what was it like?
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@Vader
Understood regarding the CX, sounds quite good, thanks!
Global announcements have nothing to do with PMs, they are just another kind of activities, not private messages so they shouldn't really clutter much.
No. I'm saying we should add something that users can advertise social media, art, books, music, etc.
Hm, like what? How would you want to see it?
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@whatthef
Check out the platform development thread, there are like 30 pages of improvements, for God's sake. Think it's not good enough, well, you can donate money and I can hire people to help me move faster and develop fancier things? No? Well, then I suggest you stop this nonsense.3rd thing, I did say I been reading a lot doesn't mean I was reading on the platform developments thread. Sure the creator of the site pop in once in a while there. However, what good comes of this? Their no real feedback and there no real solution to the problems. This site hasn't been improving. At least not in my eyes and I bet in many others too. This is why, i when on the Hangouts thread to see if there were better ideas going around which there's isn't. And don't you think it be cool to have the creator of the site in the Hangouts and have a real dialogue? I think so. But someone like you wouldn't want that. Why Bec you rather talk about fake things and things that doesn't matter instead of talking about important matters.
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@nmvarco
Sorry mate, I know it's not super convenient but I will simplify things at some point. I just wanted to add something new first and polish it later.
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@Vader
Can you please elaborate on CX?
Once Group PMs get developed, we should not clutter Propaganda and Group PMs. It is too much info on one screen and won't look aesthetically pleasing. Announcements is a more beneficial way of relaying info to others
You lost me here. Announcements and group PMs are completely different things. The word propaganda was used a joke to describe why we need global announcements.
I am not sure what you mean by advertisements. Add the ads to the website?
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@Vader
-Announcements(remove propaganda)
What do you mean remove propaganda?
-Advertisment
Hmm?
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The forum restructuring will be done at some point, that's on the list.
What's CX though?
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New changes:
1) Added a header link to the blog, the blog that nobody writes to :/
2) Added a way for the mods to remove a right for publishing debate comments.
3) Added a simple test decoration effect for the forum post avatars. Works only for my avatar, at the moment, because I didn't want to force it on anyone but It will be probably used, combined with some other effects, as a reward for the donations and since we don't have any, looks like I am gonna be the only one having it :/
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@Tejretics
My logic was that if you assign the judges, there is no need to moderate them. Especially considering that the judges debates don't affect the rating anyway.
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@Mharman
Yeah, the mods have already talked to me, lesson learned :)
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New changes:
We now have a really RAW friends system, at this point it's basically something cosmetic but it will improve with time.
PS: If you notice some weird behaviour, please let me know. It took me quite a while to implement it and there still may be some bugs that I didn't catch.
PS: If you notice some weird behaviour, please let me know. It took me quite a while to implement it and there still may be some bugs that I didn't catch.
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@drafterman
Hi there!
Yeah, I think it would be possible if we discussed every detail regarding how it should look and work in every specific case.
Could you please create a new topic for that? Just to see what other people think and propose on this matter?
Yeah, I think it would be possible if we discussed every detail regarding how it should look and work in every specific case.
Could you please create a new topic for that? Just to see what other people think and propose on this matter?
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@Polytheist-Witch
I can't believe nobody put a shiv in your kidney yet, considering your lovely personality.I can't believe people donate to this
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@Barney
In general I like the idea of badges to be earned...For a major incentive, I would suggest beta access to upcoming features. IMO this would be to the benefit of everyone.
Yeah, badges or some cosmetic effects is the way to go, I think.
Well, I am afraid we don't have this beta stage at the moment, once the feature is implemented and I've done some testing on the local machine, it goes live.
Well, I am afraid we don't have this beta stage at the moment, once the feature is implemented and I've done some testing on the local machine, it goes live.
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@Vader
I have no idea but I want my % lol
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@TheHammer
That may something to do with the way I store the images, they don't get marked as images and therefore the browsers can't know the file type and just download it instead of showing it. It may be inconvenient but it's nothing shady. I will try to fix it at some point.
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@TheHammer
I am not sure if I understand what you mean, maybe you are clicking "Open IMAGE in a new tab" instead of "Open LINK in a new tab"?
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@RationalMadman
Yeah, the border may work too.
Well, I think the credit will be optional anyway, because in order to get it, the user would probably have to bind his Patreon page to the account here, so that I could use the API to automate the process. So if the user doesn't want the credit, he or she may just not bind the account :)
Well, I think the credit will be optional anyway, because in order to get it, the user would probably have to bind his Patreon page to the account here, so that I could use the API to automate the process. So if the user doesn't want the credit, he or she may just not bind the account :)
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@ethang5
@RationalMadman
I really don't like the idea of giving this kind of privilege, I've played too many games that got ruined by this haha
It should be something cosmetic and if we're to talk about some extra functionality, it must be something that wouldn't give an advantage over the other users. It could be a special forum section, like what drafterman mentioned.
Or maybe a free gifts that the donated user could give away to the other users, like what we have in VK -> https://imgur.com/a/SNjEzAP It's in Russian but it says "Presents", anyway, you get my point.
It should be something cosmetic and if we're to talk about some extra functionality, it must be something that wouldn't give an advantage over the other users. It could be a special forum section, like what drafterman mentioned.
Or maybe a free gifts that the donated user could give away to the other users, like what we have in VK -> https://imgur.com/a/SNjEzAP It's in Russian but it says "Presents", anyway, you get my point.
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@bsh1
@Tejretics
@Ramshutu
When you are up for it, please sign on this Medium website, if you haven't yet, and PM me your usernames and I will add you to the list of publishers :)
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@bsh1
That's ideal :)I might either do my thoughts on various policy issues or a series on how to debate well.
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@Ramshutu
sure, I'd be up for that in the new year, depending on what content you want.Edit: I can add stuff related to vote quality, analyzing debates and common errors
Awesome, thank you!
I think the main requirement for the content is to be interesting for you to write and others to read :)
The things that you mentioned sound perfect ^_^
I think the main requirement for the content is to be interesting for you to write and others to read :)
The things that you mentioned sound perfect ^_^
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@ethang5
That's exactly one of those things that make some users supreme, that's not an option.
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So as you've probably noticed, we use Patreon for the donations system and it provides API access to its platform, which would allow us to implement an automatic reward system (not super simple but possible). So the question is, how should we rewards the pledgers? Obviously it should be something that doesn't make the pledgers in any way above the others. I'd suggest it to be something aesthetic. Any ideas?
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Hi folks, I am thinking about starting a blog on Medium to see if we can use it to write some debating related articles or pretty much anything else what can be interesting for the users here and maybe some people outside.
So I am wondering if anyone would be interested in writing stuff there?
If we manage to find a few publishers, I'll add a link to the blog in the header.
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The raw version of the blog is here -> https://medium.com/debateart-com
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@drafterman
Yeah I know, the landing page is a damn disaster, if to be honest... I will try to make it more decent after NY.
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@RationalMadman
You are probably right, I used the red one because it's the Patreon's color.
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@RationalMadman
Well, I mentioned this on the donations page, Patreon provides API that I could use to implement, what they call, automated gifts, but if we want this, we need to decide what it should be first. There's bunch of options really.
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@RationalMadman
I am afraid I didn't have time to finish the changes to the default values and naming, will do it tonight.
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New changes:
Added the donations section.
Before you start a panic thinking we will turn into another of those websites that try to force the donations on every page, that won't happen. Please read the donations page for more details about why and how.
Also, if you find the text on the donations page too rough or just bad in any way, help would be appreciated. Writing is not my thing, especially when I don't have plenty of time for it :/
Before you start a panic thinking we will turn into another of those websites that try to force the donations on every page, that won't happen. Please read the donations page for more details about why and how.
Also, if you find the text on the donations page too rough or just bad in any way, help would be appreciated. Writing is not my thing, especially when I don't have plenty of time for it :/
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Thank you folk :) You are the best community one could hope for :)
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@David
@bsh1
I may be wrong but I believe Zeichen asked for her account to be canceled and since we don't have that ability, it was simply banned. But we need to ask the mods.
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@RationalMadman
Could you please give some info about your phone model ?
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@RationalMadman
Thank you! And I like the idea with the defaults, I'll probably change them tomorrow."Graded System (Four Parts)" replacing the other but also, four part should be the default. When the page loads, the position being Pro and voting system being Four Parts should be default options, as should Open Voting. You need to ensure noobs don't pick silly choices, it will decrease the stress on them and increase the pleasure to us as they're less likely to just go 'omg I don't know what to pick' and not be there with a debate to get a win from. ;) They are also more likely to recommend the site to friends and feel at ease creating debates when all they need to do is type obvious parts and the system picks the rest for them.
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@RationalMadman
Fair point, any idea what naming would be better?
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New changes:
1) We now have two debate point systems: four points and winner selection.
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@Ramshutu
I am afraid it's not that easy at this point because if the change to the vote (after the debate has been finished) changes the winner of the debate, we'd need to update the ratings and at this point, I don't keep track of how participants' ratings changed in some specific debate. That's also a reason why we can't delete the votes after the debate has been finished. I'll need to come up with something to fix this issue first, I guess.I don’t think the voting period needs to be extended for public voting: just that if a vote is removed an hour before the debate ends, and the removed vote changes the outcome, the individual voter should be given a few days to log on and have the ability to fix or amend the vote.
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@RationalMadman
And due to that delay in elo changing, addicts like me will get really irritated by the extension teasing us of our orgasmic BOOM
Oh ... 🤔
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@RationalMadman
I am afraid I don't understand what you mean.If it was the case that 'elo' altered as votes altered I'd support it but because of impatience and rating only fluctuating post-voting, I really wouldn't enjoy this... It would tease me like a sociopathic Dominatrix on a bad day.
That would be a case only for the debates on the "voting" stage, so at this point none of the participants have their ELOs changed anyway because it happens only when debates goes into the "finished" stage.
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@David
@bsh1
Ping
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